23 years old, athlete, weightlifting, 6 month phero experience
Currently use reg Ammo + IS
It seems that P75 is an amazing masculine putative
I have ordered P75 (@2.5mcg) and already have IS
I want to combine IS with the P75 to brighten the effects.
I want to know if there is anything else I could get that could make P75+IS an even better combo for my needs.
P75(2.5mcg) + IS(1-2) + ???
Trying to attract 18-24yo group.
I’ve heard to use ammo alongside them, but I dont know if that’d come off too strong. Also, I heard Summer Ammo can work, but guys have said it comes off too beta.
I’m trying to project the best sexy, masculine, confident, cool feel without being overly sexual or too “soft”.
Please give me some great options, whether its another Putative or MX. Thanks!
I would say you should get IO or another very social product like MX297.
IS alone is not enough to offset P75’s potential for edginess/discomfort - esp around younger women. With P75 in the mix, you will not have to worry about anything being “too soft” and social moderation is IME a must as any Androstenone in the mix will compound matters.
Summer Ammo is excellent - Don’t take reports from a small number of people prone to rather extreme self effects as indicative of a products wider nature - Besides, its you who makes a product “alpha” or not - Any product can fail if you don’t back it up with the right behaviour/attitide. Besides, if you are already built Personally, I’ve found Summer Ammo superb around younger women with P75, extra Androstenone or IG.
I’d wait till John comfirms just what is going-on with the Summer Ammo mix - From his coments on another thread, it seems the extra molecules in that mix are no more, so its just Standard Ammo with a far better scent.
Yeah, I have been reading mixed reviews about the Summer Ammo, but I think it could do me well compared to the regular Ammo. If the Summer Ammo does in fact end up being the same as regular now, would you then recommend MX297 or IO alongside the P75+IS? Any other potential things to mix for a major focus on younger women?
Not really, although P75 will deepen and round-out IG in another interesting way. A smallish dose of P75 gives it a bit more social substance/masculine gravity but without sending the status up the battlements.
Original Summer Ammo, P75 and IG have become a favourite of mine since it came out. Thankfully I laid a couple of bottles of Summer aside!
As you already know and read up, P75 is a very masculine putative and being a big guy could sometimes hurt you if you don’t buffer it enough. Trust me as a guy who oly lifts and power lifts every other day and was nicknamed Panda because of my bulkiness, you can be very intimidating.
What I found personally is P75 at 5 -10 mcg , P74 at 20-30mcg (I’m still trying to find my sweet spot on this one) 3 sprays of IS and 1-2 sprays of summer ammo just seem to make me a magnet for any form of girl ranging from the teens to even some older women 40+. It’s a great mix for me because I can dictate how “Alpha” I want to be due to the P75, but thanks to the social buffers given by the P130 (In the Summer Ammo), P74 and IS it makes girls stick to you like no other.
It gives off a “wow this guy..he’s so intimidating but I mean he’s talking to me and I can’t get enough of his attention” type deal.
Now it’ll only work if you can make it work, I.E. you take initiative and have that “I know what I want, i’ll let you know I want you, and if you want to play games I’ll play a little bit but don’t tease me too long”.
For example I was talking to a 18 y/o girl I was taking out to lunch. The conversation started with her pissed off a guy, being an emotional wreck and 15 minutes later when I had to leave to type up a paper it left with us flirting hard core (lots of kino) her asking me if I wanted her and saying I know you want me etc, and just being a big goof ball, which she rarely is in public.
You can always start slow too work your way up with P74 + P75 and IS to see your sweet spot before you add any sexual/attraction mixs into it. Who knows you might not need it.
next time when you’re out on a date try P75+P74 and report back ok.people say this combo can create the crush effect.go low on P75 2.5mcg and don’t go over 30mcg of P74,too much of this stuff will get you into the friend zone
P75 + IS + IO + IH + AMMO Reg is a winning mix that’s proven itself across the forum. I’m over 35 use 2.5 mcg p75 2 sprays IS, 4 sprays IO, 3 sprays IH, and 1-2 sprays AMMO..
Summer ammo p75 is a wimpy signature.. you get a lot of jolly talk and women after you but its terrible for being taken seriously.. My voice becomes almost timid with it, where with high doses of p75 and the combo above my voice becomes 1 -2 octaves lower.
I’m highly prone to self effects of mones.. highly highly prone no matter how many years I use them.
Anyway, I’ve tried P75 (at 7.5 mcg) + P74 (at 30 mcg) + IS + Ammo W.E. in a house party environment, stand-offish environment, class-room, a private meeting, and also on a lunch date in a cafe.
Lots of hits, and lots of sh** testing, so make sure you stand firm and can throw back just as hard. (Verbally of course)
The effects I see from piers in class are they are hesitant to talk to you, but once you take the initiative they can’t stop and kind of look for a reason to hang around you.
You have to act on that initial interest or else it just ends up being a thought in their head saying “Oh he seems really attractive and interesting, I wish we weren’t in class.”
The effects I have on my professors is immediate camaraderie and respect as If I’m a fellow professor and with female professors they become very unprofessional VERY fast haha.
I have yet to test this mix out with Summer AMMO but I’m starting to get used to the out-right “i’m a sexy mofo vibe and I know it” with regular ammo.
That’s one combo I was considering because I already have regular ammo. I don’t have IO or IH. However, do you see a P75(2.5mcg) + 1x reg ammo + 2 spray IS to potentially be a winning combo for me? I want to keep my ammo low because of my age and the age group of girls I’m after (18-24)
I’ve also been trying to find more info on MX297 alongside p75 bit can’t find much on the combo. What do you guys think of p75+mx297? Would the p75 at 2.5mcg still be masculine enough to complement the social aspects of the mx297? What kind of feel do you see this particular combo giving- self effects and on others?
2 sprays mx297 + 2.5 mcg p75 is a fantastic mix, very social but you still have a masculine edge, good for clubbing and on girls under 25, but you still got to have some game with this its not a heavy hitter IME, I still prefer p74 + p75 though.
