P78 and P74 report

My first report – bear with me.

Where: Church, Dinner at a restaurant afterward

Mix: P74 - 25 mcg
P78 – 20 mcg
Applied mix about an hour before church.

My thinking was to experiment with a purely social mix. I suffer from a bad case of social anxiety disorder, so I wanted to experiment with a mix that had some social self effects and liven up the group I was with.

When we were trying to find a seat at church – we ended up having to sit in a spot where the vents were blowing against my wife – not an ideal location. I did notice, when the a/c would cut off, my wife would make an effort to slide as close to me as possible. Lots of hand holding – more than usual. I noticed my mood was uplifted as well. It didn’t come on all of the sudden – but sort of crept up on me. Church is a good atmosphere for me to battle social anxiety, as everyone is so warm and friendly and right up in your face. Most Sundays I can feel anxiety rising inside me as I get ready to go, but today was different. I felt calm and at peace. Another strange effect – apparently this mix elevates the mood of children around me very effectively. I had children all around me crawling under the benches to get in my general area. Then they proceeded to have a great time slapping me in the back of head and throwing things at me. They acted sad when I left as well. On to dinner.

My wife and I went and ate dinner at a restaurant with another young married couple – pretty good friends of ours. We do things with them all the time, and I am usually very quiet and reserved . My wife is usually like the life of the party, and she loves that - especially when she is in a great mood. I noticed everyone at the table was very chatty – much more so than usual. The guy I sat across from was not feeling good when we arrived – a little under the weather. He even said right off that he may not say much because he wasn’t feeling well. His mood changed about 10 mins into the meal. His mood was uplifted and he became chatty as well. I was feeling more confident than usual, so even I got the table laughing a few times. I felt ok with speaking what was on my mind. Dinner was fun for me – unusual because dinner with anyone except my wife and family is usually a battle with anxiety for me. My wife usually takes notice when I am acting more naturally around our friends, but I think she was feeling so good that she didn’t notice as much.

Affect on others: I could tell that everyone within about 10 feet of me for any length of time experienced an improvement in overall mood. Everyone seemed to feel good – even my friend who was becoming ill prior to church.

Self effects: Social anxiety diminished. I felt much more comfortable saying what was on my mind, which is out of my usual character when out with a group. I could tell my mood was uplifted as well.

Conclusions: This was a very enjoyable mix for me. I can tell it really helped to diminish my social anxiety. It was very apparent that everyone around me experienced an improvement in there overall mood. I do want to tweak the mix a little. My wife is so naturally bubbly and with the addition of p78 and p74, she was so over-the-top bubbly that she seemed to not notice me as much. I would like to tweak the mix in a way to grab a little more attention from my wife. That is the reason I got involved with pheros to begin with. I have all the “instant” products, as well as several of the available putatives and several mx mixes.

I am still very new to this and have been researching the forums for a while – but haven’t had much time to test the products I have. Any suggestions on tweaking this mix would be appreciated. Again, I really like the happy social vibe and self effects, I would just want a little more attention from my wife without killing buzz .

Hello, i to have social anxiety so will keep an eye on you posts, you may want to check out mine as i am using phero primarily for social anxiety.

One thing i would say is to avoid mood intensifiers such as P83 unless things are going well other wise you may just intensify the SA.

Two great pheromones. Never tried them together in a combo as I find them to be quite similar. Both friendly and charismatic, upbeat and charming, cool and fun.

I find that p74 is to p78 what bnol is to anol. p74 has a greater emphasis on group bonding, where as p78 is more of the individual life and soul of the party (which others can very easily feed of). I think you’ve chosen two pheromones very effective at what you are trying to achieve, and it looks very much like they’re working for you.

I haven’t seen it reported by anyone else, so it may just be me, but p78 makes me stand up tall and walk with more confidence. It also makes me detached from my emotions, making me present in the moment and care free. If it has similar effects on yourself I can see it being very useful for your social anxiety.

U are absolutely right my friend. I learned that lesson the hard way. I had just got my order of p83 in. I had been reading that this putative is very sensual and couldn’t wait to try it. We were going to a halloween party at a friends house. I was wearing P83 + ammo + IS + A314. The anxiety hit me when we got in the car to leave our house. The social anxiety intensified quickly until it felt like it was hard to take a breath. I still believe p83 has a place in some of my mixes - but definitely not in social situations - unless i am already loose and feeling good to begin with. I didn’t know exactly what happened to me that night until i read your post.

Yes that is how i found out, what i do now is take togo with me and if things are going well i give myself a spray, find this works better.