P83 is actually one of the best pheromones I’ve used up to date. It needs a good base but it bascally works just like an enzyme works to speed chemical reactions up; the end result is fantastic and close to the holy grail, women tell me I’m handsome and 2 women actually told me that they loved me after 6 hours of meeting withing the same month. I was wearing 8 inches A314, 2 Is, 60 mcg A1 and 40 mcg p83 during those times.
By itself it increases some friendliness and openness but combined with some of the staples none, nol, or rone has provided super attraction hits from people who I never even expected such as my older sister’s friends etc. I actually use it when I’m sure I want to get in bed with a girl.There is major eye contact and stares and smiles from women, this is one of the mones where I’ve actually been approached and opened by women. Unfortunately seems to be out of stock and I hope it’s not gone forever. I don’t report alot but after testing it and finding it fun and pleasant that I had to add my 2 cents about p83, Iv’ve used about 8 bottles ranging from 5 mcg per spray to 25 mcg per spray and upto 75 mcg per application. It’s crazy good with A314 and Npa for me personally. whoa!!!
I have used it with cttm, which got a lot of guys talking to me, but most of the good hits have been from girls, I did not have a good reaction combining tuth io and p83 because I think p83 is super sexual by itself and adding tuth caused anger in people and problems. More testing will be done as well but all in all p83 suits very well with socials like p74 and io as well. I had mild and frustration type reactions and at work with tuth and p83, but that’s the only bad thing I can think of in all this time, also when I used it with Npa I got straange horny and angry reactions from women in the classroom. but all in all I think it would go great with anyone’s solid combos, actually all kinds of combos.
Peace.
When I first started here, there was a lot of hype about P83, but the results I got were mostly negative, or it didn’t work. Meanwhile, the hype was that TAL was only for women. Then I actually tested TAL and got very interesting and consisten results at clubs. But 1/2 the time my wife is ready to kill me. People said I could shower in eNone or alpha-RONE and get positive attention. I got ghosted like a predator or a grandpa until I tried tiny amounts.
Lesson learned: Don’t believe the hype. Gather your own evidence. What works for me might not work for you.
What works for picking up random women may be bad news around your long-term partner.
What’s good for your LTR may not work for pickup.
TAL is not one I’ve done much with (intend to rectify that soon!) but for me, P83’s benefits and effects are undoubted.
However P83 has always done best in a steering/secondary role, not as a primary/standalone. Particularly with sexual or status/sexual mixes and always in environments where its easier to get physical/lose the inhibitions. In work/polite/potential nonphysical situations, it is IMO best avoided. Not just because it won’t do you a lot of good but because its a molecule in high demand that is prone to going into drought (like just now ) - sometimes for bloody months on end!
Also I’d put P83 right up there with A1 as a mone that’s prone to being vastly overused in mixes and like A1 (but not so badly) you can use P83 in a mix to the point where it flattens/degrades the response to all other mones in the mix to no further beneficial effect.
My science is not exact, not looking for pickup, close etc mones but mostly an edge.
You are who you are, and if you portray the mones properly usually they will shine for you.
It depends on what else is in the mix - I’d use 10-15mcg with a social or light social/sexy mix, 20-30mcg with something more determinedly sexual or a pure status mix and 40-60 mcg with an overt sexual or status/sexual mix.
I think P83 is a molecule that has poor diffusion… this is the same issue that eNone has - it does not leap off the skin easily. It’s the opposite situation from TAA which just flies off. In these situations using a high-concentration spray is counter-productive because the concentrate is just going to stick together even more - you get erratic responses. I have found after playing around with different concentrations that diluting it to less than 5 mcg / spray improves consistency. It gets much better at less than 2.5. If you try a large number of sprays of a low concentration the results are very different from a single high-concentrations spray when it comes to these poorly diffusing molecules… once you establish a concentration that is consistent, only then should you move on to the number of sprays that reaches the desired intensity of effects. You may find that you need to adjust your total mcg downward once you’ve improved the diffusion.
Definitely noticed this, it needs to be “spread out” I spray onto my forearm then rub onto other forearm and temples to increase area for diffusion (10mcg/spray)
) - sometimes for bloody months on end!