Phero color chart by MuskCloud: a visual guide to choosing mixes

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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I would like to know your opinions based in experience about using Ammo+Shine or really find a post that states Ammo+Shine is more sexual than Ammo. All I get from experience (months using Ammo daily) is that TAA makes Ammo more social, i’ve even found mixing with A314 or IFM more sexual-inviting than mixing with Shine. I have read many posts about this too, and about Ammo 1.5 being more social and less sexual than 1.0 :slight_smile:.

It’s only an idea, but I don’t see from mine and others’ experience nor theory that red color in Ammo+Shine :wink:. I’m only asking for your opinions and experience about it. :smiley:

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That post is one of the ones that states the differences between 1.0 and 1.5 that I posted before. What I don’t understand is why mixing ammo with Shine is “more sexual” if experimenting, posts and logic states the contrary :wink:

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OK, let me think for a second here.

When creating the chart, I went back to the very first post made on this board and moved forward to the present day, copying and pasting all details of any simple mixes and their effects into a Word file, under a heading of Sexual, Dating, Social or Business.

I also took note of what effects were reported with the single products.

It eventually got too much to be of any use, and so I came up with the idea of throwing it all together into a colour-coded chart. The pheromone grid was born.

Unfortunately, I didn’t make any note of who said what and when. Nor did I copy and paste the web address of each post that I took data from. Simply too much work for a project that I thought would take a few hours, and was already consuming my Christmas holiday. All I have is a line in a file saying, Sexual: Ammo, IS.

Someone, somewhere, somewhen reported that effect. Someone else must have backed up those findings, because I gave more weight to a mix if another user reported copying the mix and getting identical effects.

What may have been an oversight is that I didn’t record the concentration or strength of pheros used. That Ammo / IS combo could have been 3 Ammo and 1 IS. It could have been 2 shots Heavy Ammunition and one IS double-strength. This was because I couldn’t find a way to record the different concentrations used in the grid. The work would have increased exponentially if I had tried, increasing the chances of making a big error.

No mention was made of which Ammo version was used, therefore there is no “Ammo version 1.0” and “Ammo version 1.5” in the chart. Frequently, posters say something along the lines of, “RAWR, this mix got me laid! It’s got Ammo in it” without giving the version number. That happens a lot and besides, both versions are advertised as giving you the Ammo to “hit her down there.” That’s sexual.

If enough posters believe the chart needs a change, I will of course change it, and I hope it doesn’t cause too much inconvenience to novice users chasing the reported effects. I’ll then drop a line to Jasmin, asking her to redirect the link from the old chart to the new.

Tried my best, guys. I hope it’s been more useful than detrimental to the phero community.

Musk

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Wow Musk, i think it has been one of the best threads i have ever read here, of course it has been useful, the most.

I am very sorry if my post upset or decepcionated you, i was only saying i didn’t get that results and didn’t see logic in it, I may be wrong but, anyway, i was asking for opinions :frowning:

Again I think it’s the greatest work in here, it has many combinations covered and we all have used it a lot for guidance, I only was saying something about one combination in 12x12, and thought this chart was in a constant study.

Again i am very sorry if my post was not very clear, i really adore your work (and it must have been a lot), it has been much more than helpful for all of us… and IMO it’s necessary here, it’s the best explanation where you can see the combinations and what you can hope from any phero or phero combo.

You didn’t do YOUR best, you did THE best :smiley:

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No, capone. No hard feelings at all. :smiley: To err is human, and if I made a mistake, I’ll fix it.

As for it being in constant study, I made the chart featuring only the standard lineup for a reason. They’re well-studied, and very well-known. Pheroquirk is attempting to create his own spreadsheet of the putatives and MX series, and I don’t envy the guy! :slight_smile: He’ll probably drop me a PM in the future, saying, “Take it! I don’t want it! Do what you want with it, but keep it away from me!” :smiley:

I have a very small feedback file with a suggested update - all for the none-heavy pheros like Dirty, Raw Power etc. I’ve had a report of them being used successfully in social situations. Apart from that, the file is empty. That’s a mark of success by itself.

The file also contains a listing of reported effects with P74 and P79, recently upgraded to pheromone status, and I’m waiting for them to make it into the standard lineup.

Again, no hard feelings. :smiley:

Musk

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It would be great if (when those putatives make it into the standard line) you update the chart including the new reports on Dirty and Raw power :slight_smile:, you have done a great work with the current one.

I only wanted to know some opinions about Shine making Ammo more sexual than not using shine :wink:, absolutely no error here and less yours :smiley: that are the one who make the effort and recopilate all that data. :slight_smile:

Bye!

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Man thank you for that chart.I keep coming back it again and again

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That’s what I like to hear, Flaming. :smiley:

Musk

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OMG!! That´s amazing!!

A Thousand Words for One Image.

=)

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Wow! That really helps A LOT! THx!!!

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Another phero soldier armed and ready. :smiley: No problem, Mockingbird. You’ve got the battlefield intel from those that went before you and lived to tell some wild tales. Now go out there and knock 'em dead with your chosen combos.

Musk

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AMMO + Instant Shine = sexual? I don’t get that…

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Hi Jax

When researching the grid, there was a poster that reported a sexual effect with that combo. This was backed up by others.

The speculation was that because women are intensely social, so much more so than men, they will be attracted to a guy who makes them feel good in a social situation. How many women insist on a “GSOH” on dating sites? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? All of them?

I, like most guys, am clueless when it comes to the psychology of the female mind, but it was reported.

This is why Instant Shine alone has been said to have sexually suggestive overtones in the right situation, and possibly why Androtics modified Ammo 1.0 with TAA? Not sure on the phero, but it was a social pheromone, to create Ammo 1.5.

Not long afterwards, reports started coming in that men preferred 1.0 because the hits were more obvious to them. Women reported that they preferred 1.5 on their men.

Women. I love them, but can never figure them out.

Musk

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I will try to explain this Phenomenon, hopefully I dont confuse you more (snort) :stuck_out_tongue:

Men are action and visually orientated. Men find having sex as being intimate. Just the act of sex makes them feel closer to a women. They really dont need to feel a deep connection with someone before they have sex. In most instances it comes after sex. Nothing wrong with this its just the way men are made. Its just your natural instinct to repopulate the world :wink:

Women on the other hand are more feeling and emotionally orientated, we need a feeling of closeness and contentness before we have sex. We want the deep connection and its that connection thats part of what causes attraction and arousal for us. After all its our natural instinct to nuture and bond.

So adding something like Instant Shine to a sexual mix like AMMO can boost the sexual attraction of the product because it gives off that strong contented connected feeling as well as causing arousal.

For women pheromone users its a bit easier. All we need to do is use a sexual mix to arouse and men will take it from there. The socials we use to get men to get past that natural instinct of action verses feeling

For the guys its a little different. useing the social pheromones with your sexual mixes like Ishine, Instant Openness ,Instant Honesty and even Instant Female Magic can really get you farther then just a male oriented pheromone alone. If a women feels safe content happy and close to you she is more likely to become aroused by you.

Now dont get me wrong I am not saying men dont have feeling when it comes to sexual encounters or that women dont crave sex as much as men do. We are just different and our arousal is turned on by different vibes or cues. Men and women are each a half of one perfect whole :wink:

Tisha

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Awesome post, it connected some really important ideas and made…as you put it, one perfect whole. haha :stuck_out_tongue:

Forget the pickup artists, Tisha could be the attraction artist we have been looking for.

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Well said Tisha, very eloquent and clear

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Indeed. I’ll second Flaming’s comment and add my thanks for making my point for me. I didn’t have much time to post or I would have spent more time on my reply.

Reps to you, Tish. Holy smokes, how long before you hit 3000? :smiley:

Musk

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Yeah, like what can I say but DITTO!

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Great post,
Quite handy and very informative for beginners (like me).

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You’re welcome, OS.

Don’t mind if I call you that, do you? :smiley:

For the other members here, guys, I’m suddenly getting a huge number of blank reps piling up in the CP. It’s appreciated, but please can you identify yourselves so I can return the favour or just to acknowledge the pats on the back?

Thanks.

Musk