so many question so many different answers… so since everyone is different and ones thoughts about how a pheromone will work on another are only speculation I’ve decided to seek out the answers for myself, the world is only made by those who make it right?
to do list. 1.IO vs Shine. 2.IO vs IO+Shine 3.IO vs IH
4.Shine+IO vs Shine+IH
5.IG effects and sweet spot
6.IG+IO vs IG+IH vs IG+IS
8.Tuth+IG vs IG+IJ (kill the fatherly vibe?)
9.Ammo effect and sweet spot
10.ammo+IO vs ammo+IH vs ammo+IS
11.p75= darker alpha a314?
more questions to find the answer to when AD refills the putatives and when I get more money
also any tips would be greatly appreciated, best spots to test, pua secrets idk anything.
thanks
Ammo VS MX301
A314 VS MX297
Single doses of A314+IJ+IO vs 3 sprays of Heavy Ammo
IJ vs 15mcg of TuTH
Ohhh here’s one you can do with friends
A314 vs IJ, TuTH and Ammo in a Rone vs None cockblocking fest.
One man wears A314, then one wears IJ, One…15 mcg TuTH, and finally one wearing 3 sprays of Heavy Ammo or equivalent. Go clubbing and see if the high status of A314 can cockblock the high none products…have the guys rotate on different nights to eliminate one guy just being better at his game than the rest from the equation. Report on how well A314 was at killing each None based mones game was. Did IJ fair better than Ammo, Did TuTH hold up better than IJ…or did Ammo overcome the cockblock and own A314? I was considering doing this one myself but I’m out of A314, I have no IJ and my TuTH is low so you can do it first if you want.
MX297 hits hard and hits fast. I would go as far to say as A314 takes time to build, gives you great overall long term effects. Great with women you’re working on for LTR. If you’re out and you want a great first impression, give the same effect of A314 but all at once.
Oh I know, I’ve done both. I love both, I think 297 is a little lighter as well, more fun to go with the respect vibe. Just making suggestions for Des who really seems interested in experimenting which I’d like to encourage.
See I have a theory regarding that last one. A314 is supposedly Mr Right, and a high None signature is more Mr right-now. Now considering one of the reasons some women will throw out objections and obstacles in a mans game is because sleeping with the wrong guy can effect her social status negatively. She can be extremely attracted to a man, but not actually sleep with him because doing so might ruin her reputation, particularly with males the possess high survival value for her.
That said,
The question is, will the presence of a man wearing a A314 or some other high Rone product…conveying the image of a tribal leader negatively impact the ability of men wearing high None products to escalate their game with available females?
The hypothesis is, That the presence of a man wearing 2 drops of A314 (or one spray of MX347) will have a strong negative impact on the game of those wearing high None products like a IJ, and TuTH and a slightly less dramatic impact on the game of those wearing Ammo. This I believe will be due to the status conveyed by A314 making the way the A314 man perceives the woman to be very important to her, thus her rejecting the high None man within a short time after the A314 man appears.
The methodology will require 4 men
One wearing 2 drops A314 (or a single spray of MX347)
2 drops of A314 to compensate for slower diffusion vs alcohol based mones.
One wearing a single spray of IJ (15mcg total mones, mostly none)
6 sprays TuTH (or 3 sprays TuTH 2X) again totaling 15mcg of mostly None
6 sprays Ammo or 3 of heavy Ammo totalling 15 mcg none.
The men go out sarging on 4 different occasions (rotating each product so that by the 4th night all 4 have each used each product), the high none men opening as many sets as possible as building attraction. Once attraction is built, the A314 man will enter set. While in set his only tasks are to display high value/status and to express a casual interest in the woman’s feelings toward the high none man. “So am did I just walk into the middle of something here?”
record data for all 4 nights, tallying each mans success/failure rate as well as the average total based both on men and product.
ex guy #1 had a 50/50 ratio against A314 when his use of all products are averaged out.
TuTH was blown out by A314 70% of the time when averaged among all four men etc.
report findings.
Once I’m able to get the products I need, IJ and more A314 I plan on conducting this experiment myself whether or not you decide to but I think the more guys that do it the more valid the findings will be. I actually suspect that based on my own A314 experiences that simply being present and HINTING at disapproval for a woman pairing with a high none guy will at least make his game tougher if not kill it altogether. The approval of a man with high perceived status and value has tremendous importance to a womans status within society and her survival chances from an evolutionary perspective.
ok here are a few results firstly p75 is nothing like alpha at all, it’s more like pure anger in a bottle lol I sprayed some and I did feel an increase of focus, but I zoned everything else out, noticed an extreme scowl on my face, I felt constantly like someone have ripped me off and I needed vengeance lol very weird but not conclusive I’m gonna have to test it out a little more before I write it off,
2nd shine vs IO, these products are soooo so very similar the difference is shine puts a bigger smile and gives you more energy and a go gettem attitude where as IO give’s you a smiler smile yet helps you open that mouth to talk, which if your a introvert to the level I can be at times it’s very very useful, but also kind of annoying if used in to high doses.. no one likes being around someone who talks to much lol
IO vs IS vs IS+IO they fit. very well together, 1 IO to every 2 IS works wonderfully
Ammo: a very strange product, in doses any higher then 1 I get angery and that scowl comes on me it’s really bad for socializing but even with a scowl and what not girls were attracted.. they just were also creeped out lol
ammo vs IG: ammo FTW! personally the kind passive cool maturity that I feel from IG just isn’t for me I don’t like playing the nice guy, but I will say with Ammo at 1 spray I almost feel like people are trying to push me out of the circle yet dont want me to leave… but with IG I fit in much better but my voice tends to be drowned out unlike with Ammo.. it’s really confusing any thoughts as to why this is?
thats all I got so far, more soon to come. (remember what I’ve said is by far no means how it will be for anyone else)
That’s about my experience as well. I also notice that when added as a base to either Ammo, A314 or Ammo+A314, Instant Shine adds charisma, strangers look at me with almost a sense of awe. It’s my favorite buffer for A314. When I’ve used IO, it almost gives too much of a “nice guy” vibe…not enough to kill A314 but enough to weaken it more than I’d like.
I guess it’s like if A314 is trying to go north, Instant Shine nudges it from the side to go northwest, where Instant Openness is heading south and just trying to hold it back.
Oddly enough I like the IO Shine combo, maybe it’s because of the way Shine directs stuff, it’s like no matter how people will describe you when you’re wearing pheromones, Instant shine adds “because he’s so fucking cool” to the description. I’ve only used the combo twice and it was 2x2 ratio and while people were as chatty as they usually are with IO I got a lot more approval seeking. One particular night I got 7 instances from 4 different people of “that’s pretty cool huh?” or “isn’t that cool?” or something similar, obviously wanting validation from me about what is and isn’t cool and hoping that whatever they’re talking about would be considered cool by me.
Now that strikes me as odd. Maybe it’s because I’m 38 and can handle more none without either getting aggressive or seeming so to others but I’ve done as many as 4 sprays of Heavy Ammo and have used double strength TuTH in 2 sprays without anything like that. You probably have a naturally high None signature as it is.
Again this strikes me as strange. I haven’t used IG but given your reactions to Ammo I’d figure you have a high none signature, for all sakes and purposes IG should actually balance you out pretty well. It’s supposed to a kinder gentler A314 which indicates it should still carry a good helping of respect. I think one thing you might be doing, given how you word things is playing the nice guy role. IG is supposed to be smooth, not weak. Try it again but instead of playing a nice guy, try being the cool laid back guy, the kind of guy where if you were sitting with a hotty and some Bruno tried amoging you while you’re gaming you don’t jump up and hit him, you shoot him an almost bored look that says “man if you’re gonna make me get up to deal with you when I have a woman here I’m going to be very annoyed”
As for you voice being drowned out, try this, before you’re about to speak, lift your index finger like you’re about to make an important point, take a fairly loud deep breath, say the first couple of words a little louder than you normally would and then pause…before finishing what you’re saying.
This throws out audible and visual cue’s that influence people to shut the fuck up…when they do you’ve effectively amogged the whole group.
If you’re sitting, start talking at a normal volume and slowly in increments lower your voice and lean farther and farther back, forcing them to lean into you to hear what you have to say…again a status enforcer that forces compliance from a group or an individual.
idk anything.