Pheromones for a meeting with all guys

I’m having a brainstorming meeting in January. I’ll have three other guys there. The general personalities is as follows…

First guy: Acts alpha but really is just picking on guys who have low “get up and go”, if you know what I mean.

Second guy: A complainer and flat out lazy.

Third guy: Well, he’s just there. Almost no personality.

These guys are principals, so have to be there. I need something that can bring these guys out. Make them happy and talkative. You know, really get them involved.

It seems to me that I would want to go heavy on the Instant Shine and Instant Openess. Any opinions on that? I was also thinking of applying it to the chairs we will be sitting at. I read someone did that in a post somewhere on this forum. Sorry, I don’t remember who wrote it.

Thanks! And sorry for all the noob questions :smiley:

From what I know of you from your other posts, I would say A314 with I shine. As you already have a relationship with these guys, you probably don’t need an icebreaker, hence I would suggest Instant Honesty over the Instant Openness.

Don’t be surprised if they look to you as the leader, they may be somewhat quiet and look to you for ideas/leadership, just remember to be the man and instigate the conversation.

Awesome, thank you Diamond

I prefer A314 with IH although Diamond’s recommendation is my second favorite.

I like the feeling of connection that the IH brings. It offsets the “respect distance” and can tone down any competitiveness from an alpha guy. And =my work environment is mostly alpha type guys. Creates a team kind of environment with you in charge. I also like the “to the point” conversation it brings. Not idle chit chat but important information that is shared - once again because you are the team captain you need to know this stuff for the team to win.

One of the combinations I’ve been experimenting on for these types of situations is A314 + a product called Liquid Trust that I recently got from Love Scent. I had originally gotten it to try out a recommended mix of alpha-7, scent of eros and liquid trust. Although I wasn’t too impressed with this mix, the individual components have given me some good combinations. For example, I really like alpha-7 on its own in high doses (4 or 5 drops). It has a good mix of effective buffering of none. Scent of Eros is killer when combine with The Edge. Liquid trust is alot more specialized. I was initially skeptical for a few reasons. Oxytocin is NOT something that I believe can be put in a bottle and get the effects they claim. Too unstable a molecule. The research done on its effects would require far more intimate exposure at far higher doses than simply wearing it. Mixed results from people who have gotten it leading to a number of people saying that some batches are good, some are not.

But after testing it, I am forced to admit that Liquid Trust basically does what it says it does and I’ve found that A314 + Liquid Trust is a pretty good combination for getting others to look to you for leadership. A314 says I’m the alpha male. A314 + Liquid Trust says I’m YOUR alpha male…you like me and trust me, trust that anything I have to say is in your best interests. A very nice combo for those who have to get others to work together and mediate conflicts.

The two products have very different diffusion curves though. Put on A314 and it basically lasts all day. Best placed on your own body and covered with cologne. Liquid trust lasts like a couple of hours and is better applied to clothes. I tend to apply it as needed.

you should try instant honesty. get the 4x if you can afford it. i always use it to get secrets from my normally quite boss[not to mention many other co workers and friends] you can most def. combine honesty with shine and a314.I’ve also gotten my male counterparts to open up by adding a shot of spaceland or MEO-EST. the MEO-EST is more consistent as sometimes spaceland can have a stony effect .[use spacland lighty]

I would not use Spaceland at work unless you are looking to come across as smelling like Ganja and be the weed smoking hippie. If that’s what you are thinking, then by all means go right ahead. I’m sure in today’s economy you can afford to wait in line at the unemployment office explaining that you really aren’t a drug-crazed lunatic that got everyone babbling at the “brainstorming” session incoherently :wink:.

There are some good suggestions here, and if its already been covered, forgive me, but I just walked in from a wild-night.

First-things-first: Are you a shy guy? If you are A314 is not the right vibe in a meeting. While it does give off the super confident, trustworthy ALPHA male vibe, this can work against you. Shy guys need to be congruent with the ALPHA vibe and usually by wearing it, it just wont click as RIGHT. Here’s another reason I would also consider about A314 in a work meeting where everyone’s input is needed. As the ALPHA male, who is seen by others as respected and hard-working (that is what A314 in the workplace does after all) your three co-workers, by your account all lazy or non-participants, will see you as such a high-status, high-caliber guy with everything together. No need to participate, or bring anything to the table. Who would want to meet with the office super-star and really have nothing of value to offer. Heck even if they do come up with brilliant ideas you, my friend, will be stuck with doing it all anyway. Remember, you are the ALPHA in the room and you will be able to handle it all by yourself.

I’ve had many an experience in an office environment with A314, where my coworkers were intimidated, lazy, or fabulously incompetent, and therefore useless next to my confident A314 signature. One meeting the boss even said to everyone to pass off all ideas to Steve. He would handle everything. Just great! Take that into consideration :stuck_out_tongue:. If anything a single drop of A314.

I would highly suggest Ishine with lots of IO and just a tad bit of IH. Maybe 3 sprays of Ishine to keep things upbeat and light, 5-7 sprays of IO, and 2-3 of IH to keep the brainstorming open, but on track. Also consider some TAF if you’ve got it for focus and P74 for comfort. People do their best brainstorming when comfortable.

Anyway just my suggestions. If you need you can always give me a ring on the Hotline and I will be happy to discus it further.

Whatever you decide, remember, don’t play to much into the mones as much as you do into your own talents. Be prepared, have a game plan and think success. Mones are a tool that in the right hands can create a masterpiece. Be the right hands :smiley:

I think MX203 or MX200 or ICM1b would be perfect for an all guys meeting like this.

A314x2-3
P74 50-100mcg
Instant shine 2-4 sprays

thank me later

Very good advice, I appreciate it. I guess I have one question at this point and one concern.

Question: Where can I go to find more info about the putatives and mixes? I’ve heard a lot about P74 and some others, but I’m not really sure about the rest as there is no description at their purchase site. Or am I missing it?

Concern: I’ve read a lot of posts regarding putting on sprays of this and sprays of that. Granted, I’ve never used pheromones, but won’t I be smelling a bit, um strong?