Might P93 be a ‘third way’ (besides A314 and/or AndrostEnone) for A2 (female to male attraction) of the Mystery Method style game?
P93 and status
P93… yes, it exists… no, you can’t have it…
tacitus (December 9, 2006):
“Tried a blend of STRONG P93 , 150 mu , with a softener of Alpha Androstenol , TAA , and -Androsterone… fascinating mixture of interest and respect… guys were very deferential, women were intrigued, the dog really got into chewing on his tennis ball… people in the room seems to be strongly unconsciously cued off of my behavior and attitudes… I had little patience for trivial crap, a la P80 , but it was less authoritarian, less dark and looming… 150 mu is a lot of anything… women were unquestionably interested, thought I was “sexy and mysterious”… possibilities, I thunk to meself… this has possibilities…”
Me, Me and P93
Jasmin (March 30, 2007):
"…Optimistic feeling (even to women, says Nunya), but not approachable? Interesting.
Maybe there’s a high status element to P93? High status generally = less approachable."
Me, Me and P93
Nunya (March 30, 2007):
"hmm..i can see toils point on approachability. As many compliments as I got (even from one strange girl who stopped her rather intense cell conversation to throw one to me) it didn’t promote chattiness. Not like P74 yesterday. Lots of smiley interaction tho. Now that i think about it, one of my super-talkative coworkers, came directly to my cube, asked what smelled like incense, sniffed my arm, decided it wasn’t me, and then disappeared as quickly as he came. usually he’ll stop and bs for a while.
So yeah - I think i’ll concur with the high status thing."
Me, Me and P93
Steve (March 30, 2007):
"I’m going to pipe in here, only because I think I need to. I’ve been using P93 a few days now. Although I have been mixing it in with some other molecules and I can’t separate as a defining P93 moment, but I get high-status and approachability.
High-status as in good enough for retired couple to show respect and yet receptive to allow me an invite into their family life. I’ve also got an interesting compliment from a young lady the other day. She approached me. Like I said I cannot relate this experience solely toP93 and perhaps it is buffered enough by the other molecules, but mixed testing has been interesting.
I guess I’ll have to try a go at it alone and see what happens."
Me, Me and P93
Nunya (March 30, 2007):
“what else were you wearing p93 with Steveo? I was wearing A314 which would give the high status, and cleo which would give chattiness and approachability, but it seems status won out.”
Me, Me and P93
toilofday (March 30, 2007):
"I have found p93 raw to be decently unaproachable, even at 10 mcg. It’s not like people are afraid to talk to you, it’s more like they don’t want to bother you. The status element must be there. I never quite thought of it like that
I have also noticed it to be EXTREMELY EASY to buffer. Just a little bit of anything friendly and the molocule turns right around…"
P93’s ‘uplifting’ effects on women
toilofday (July 31, 2007):
"I love this thread! haha
this sums everything up very nicely.
My number 1 thought on p93 is that it takes the alpha male and turns it into what I call the alpha/beta male… aka , they alpha male that everybody likes.
A mild shift with profound results.
great post man."
P93’s ‘uplifting’ effects on women
"I tried p93 for the first time this weekend
…In the morning I applied 3 togo sprays of p93 and went to the cafe with my girlfriend (27) , an old male friend of hers (27) …who was visiting from Sydney and a my girlfriends friend (21)
… my girlfriend hooked them up the night before!
Although i tried to put all iv read aside there was a noticeable alpha like effect with p93 …but not heavy or distancing like A314 .It seemed to enhance a friendly happy vibe in the group while placing me as a kind of leader.This could just be because im older than them.I’m not sure…
I had never met this new guy but he has two degrees and a top job at a major art gallery.Hes also 6.1 and very good looking…and all weekend it was like he was my best buddy.I didnt notice any competitiveness at all…we had a really fun weekend the four of us.
btw we had a picnic (same mix…next day) in the gardens close to a river.A big black swan come over and started acting very territorial and aggressive…and the first one he went for was me lol"
P93 – Caucasian Attractant or The First Known Racist Pheromone?
Warren (January 6, 2009):
“…Given the diminished kinesthetics, I doubt that this aspect of P93 effects would be very sensual. Given that energy flow to the head is blocked, I doubt that it would be very spiritual except in a Calvanistic sense of the term. It would, however, make one appear attractive as a good team player who pulls his own weight and respects authority. It may enhance one’s status in so far as he appears to be part of the (once) dominant culture and is clearly not the image of a deadbeat or moral reprobate.”
MX203 and status
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Jasmin (December 12, 2006):
“…1. The first pheromone test mix you get is MX203. This is heavy P93 based mix Michael made last week. Has lots of Alpha Androstenoland TAA , too. Comes in a base of what we’ve been calling our “PheroGame” cologne or Fragrance #6, which has similar notes to Cool Water, Unforgivable, Green Irish Tweed, etc. It’s a simple, but bazooka like mix…”
Difference between MX200 and MX 203
smoothplayer (July 16, 2008):
"MX203 makes white girls smiley/friendly and somewhat flirtatious. It is subtle MX , almost like a toned down version of Ammo (which is already pretty subtle)…but with absolutely no negative reactions that you would get from men. I find MX203 to be perfect when used with a touch of androstenone , like in combination with either Ammo or NPA. NPA + MX203 is the bomb simply because I can cover NPA with Armani Black Code, and the scent goes with the MX203 scent well.
But I also use MX203 with Ammo with nice results. I just spray them both on my clothes, under the collar in the back of my shirt.
MX203 is just awesome with white girls. It makes them open, almost like a toned down version of Spaceland + Ammo (which is another great mix). MX203 not only has no negatives on men, it also gets you respect and friendliness from guys also. I think it’s the status aspect of P93 that plays into it.
I have plenty of threads/posts on MX203. It’s by far one of my favorite products. I would link them here, but I was just about to head out. If you click on Search, type in “MX203” and choose to search titles. You’ll surely find a lot of threads that are only about MX203. I don’t know much about 200 though."
First Day of School Mix…NOT GOOD.
LifeT (September 3, 2008):
"it may be safer to just drop ammo and mx203 all together. i think -none is just too risky in a school environment no matter how tiny the amount. the P93 in the mx203 also has a tendency to create a ‘high status’ effect that’s quite anti-social, coupled with none it can’t be good. (not to mention the P93 is an instant asian-repeller)
if u have P74 make sure to use that, can’t go wrong with instant mr.cool effect and it’s hard to OD on it."
MX 203+Ammo+A314=Best Class Mix so Far
magnum (November 13, 2008):
"…From my testing there seems to be an OD with MX203 when i use 3 or more sprays. I noticed that girls get nervous and hold less eye contact, one girl got goosebumps and fumbled with her collar. A few girls that flirted heavily with me when i had 2 sprays on avoided me with 3 sprays…
So i noticed that too much MX203 leads to some kind of unapproachability - i am not sure yet if thats due to an increased status effect -it might also be that the smell gets too intense.
I need further testing to come to a solid conclusion, but i haven’t gone over 2 sprays after i saw this effect.
If my conlusions about status are right i would say you projected too much status as you already used 3x A314 "
[Journals section]
snakeeyesontheparadise (January 25, 2009) found that MX203 can be a status-upper worn on it’s own, especially around women from anglo-saxon backgrounds. Those type of women treated him with more respect and status when he wore MX203 around them.
mx203 DEMOLITION + honesty BACKFIRE = draw
jayarea (March 2009):
"…setup and getup
9:30pm
showered fresh
~2s mx203 front neck. the first half spray that usually comes out was a lot bigger than normal, probably .75-.8 of a normal spray, then another full spray.
1s Instant Honesty back neck
button down shirt with the top button undone to release more of the 203, nice jeans, nice shoes. basically wanted to make a very good impression on everyone.
a simple mix to get a feel for things. i don’t count this as an actual test since i’ve already broken some rules of good testing form, but it was a nice test in itself.
no self effects, but i do love game scent.
…sarah’s friends enjoyed the mix too. i did not notice any adverse effects with the asian. if anything, she probably loved it just as much as sarah, if not more. all of them leaned in close at first to talk, then after a while, even when it wasn’t necessary to lean in, they leaned in anyway probably to smell the mix. this led to the backfire i’ll cover in the next section. still no negative or weird effects around guys. it could be that my mind was playing tricks on me but i think they got some status hits off it. i stand, they stand; i sit, they sit. as their friends visited them, they worked that status angle from my mix and dhv 'd their way to a good time…"
Approachability with P93 and MX203 - status or simply the ‘no fuss, task orientated’ mindset P93 promotes?
I have noticed this myself even with only 5 mcg of P93 on:
- at times people look at me differently then normal and almost as if I’m not there (and likewise I as the wearer towards other people);
- there is some kind of erratic ‘eye contact’ quite consistently happening.
I get the feeling both of these effects are related to P93 's effect of almost instantly creating a ‘no fuss, task orientated focus’ (see posts earlier in this thread) - you just don’t feel like having an extended chat a lot of the time with it on and would much rather get on with and finish whatever task you need to do…
Concenus: Is P93 better than Instant Female Magic?
Jasx69 (May 10, 2008):
“I’ve always used 2 sprays @25mcg and usually later in the day I would top it up with 1 more spray of 25mcg. It seems to be working as long as I have it on as I can tell from my targets when Im talking, if the eye contact drops then I top it up thats when I know somethings changed or wrong, when I have p93 on you can gage your targets they look at you differently then normal as if your not there sometimes or they sometimes dont look you directly in your eyes more like your nose or mouth normal people just look away without p93 with p93 they are still focused on your face but they move around your face quite abit quite erratic. But no more then 3 sprays of 25mcg a day.”
Mx203 Report: Possible OD - Female Agitation!?
silver7447 (July 18, 2008):
"I work in a retail store as a department manager, and i’m always in contact with a bunch of customers and co-workers. I wore mx203 to work the other day and received VERY strange responses.
The first thing I noticed was:
Multiple customers, when in the middle of asking for my assistance, became tongue tied and lost their train of thought. One of them even going as far as saying “I’m sorry, nevermind, I forgot what I wanted to ask you.” This occurred throughout the day along with the following.
Next I noticed something possibly similar to the ghost effect associated with an OD , because I would always greet and smile at entering customers (which is normally received well and reciprocated) but the tendency was for people to walk right past me and not even acknowledge me. The same was noticed among some of my co-workers.
I should add that I was NOT wearing any other pheros except for 1 spray of mx203 at 9am, and a second spray at 2pm. Has anyone else had similar experiences or have any ideas what may have caused this?"