It’s a pretty straight forward question but I think it’s something that is interesting nonetheless.
Personally, I absolutely adore Beta Nol. I used to be a big Alpha Nol person because it was the first product I tried(Scent of Eros).
After using beta-nol these past few weeks with A314 it really makes socializing so much easier. A girl that I barely new was poring out her heart to me with 4 sprays of IH and one drop of A314. We bonded within ONE DAY.
Alpha nol is good when your hangin with the boys(or girls) and want to have fun but for me I just love melting the barriers down with A314 and IH and watch people attach themselves to me. Beta nol allows me to find out everything I want out of a person, without all the time and energy it usually takes.
My plan is to use 2 sprays of IH x4 with 2 or 3 drops of A314, 150mcg Meo-EST and TUTH one day. I believe this mix would be killer in 8/10 situations.
But anyway, I’d love to hear what YOUR favorite nol is and why.
I tend to favor alpha-androstenol because for me it is more difficult to get people to open up to me right away. Once I get them talking they seem to love to tell me their life stories and every deep dark secret they ever had. For me, beta-androstenol is superfluous.
Thanks for posting this thread. Personally I have been testing but not testing Enough with the a/b nols, so I cannot have a definite answer for you.
But I’ve got a question for ya. Have you tested P83 by any chance? What you say if you threw in P83 to your above suggested mix? That would probably realllly bring down the walls.
I prefer alpha nol, although I don’t mind mixing in a little beta for slight depth. A-nol is just a lot more fun, social and adept at taking the edge off heavy androstenone mixes. Besides, beta tends to make people reveal a little too much information, e.g., fight with little sister and what an ass her last BF was. Very few people actually have anything important or significant to say. Beta nol gives them the false belief they actually should reveal the dumbass personal shit nobody in their right mind wants to hear. I’d much rather drink a cold one and hear an a-nol motomouth babble…
I really like Experimone alpha nol at 62.5mcg and LS (Stone labs) chemset a-nol. Both are quality brew and concentrated enough I can mix 5 parts cologne and 1 part mone and come out with an effective pick-me-up. I can’t use Spaceland as it stinks too much for me.
Also, for older users, a-nol is very effective at communicating a friendly and youthful vibe, sorta a biochemical flashing sign proclaiming I’m healthy, friendly and virile, so let’s bump uglies mama.
I tend to lean more towards betanol. I don’t tend to have too much of a problem of getting people to talk. But there’s a bit of fun in betanol - especially when the conversation gets cheeky
That’s like asking, would you rather be able to breathe in or breathe out!
Alpha nol is overall more useful to me, because it’s great for social anxiety, getting people to open me, and making me approachable (and able to approach) a wider age range than otherwise.
But beta nol is just as important for it’s ability to coax intimacy, confidence and honesty out of a situation. It can be used to force the response to other pheromones to be expressed. And when you want her hot and bothered, forcing her to say she’s hot and bothered can be a Godsend.
So, do you want to be able to breathe in, or breathe out? Screw it. I’ll take both, thanks.
What’s the highest dose anyone here has used of instant honesty? Just curious.
*Today I used 2 sprays of IH with 4 sprays IO(double strength) and it really had this girl spilling the beans(and I mean all of them). I’ll put the full report in my journal.
Anyway, for me I like to hear everything a person has in there past and beta nol really brings that out. It’s like reading a person’s mind only not as difficult cause you actually make them say what’s on their mind. One girl was talking about how her butt was fat!
from my experience, I like betanol better than alphanol, due to the fact it brings out the quality of not only the interaction itself, but it is a great buffer when used with androstenone. my favorite mix that seems to always do wonders for me is a drop of A314 combined with 3 sprays of IHx2
A314 itself is trustable and with IH it works wonders. As long as you don’t put the IH anywhere near your face you’ll be able to say nothing and listen to your target talk their heart out and spill all their innermost secrets.
Lol yea I usually put IH in my hair, although I’ll sometimes put some on my wrists on the same spot I put A314 on. Right now I can’t wait to use this combo when I go off to college next year
ROFL, when she told me that I almost wanted to bust out laughing because she said that boys always stop to look. Of course, I did too but since we’re…you know.
Even smaller: so do I. I find it a simple combination that is good for both business and going out.
I voted for IH: as I prefer opening myself. IO (alphanol) makes it more likely that women will open to you, but I find that if that occurs it makes it harder to filter what you really want. It’s easier (in the long run) to make a deicison yourself, I find.
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And to answer the question about the highest dose, I’ve done six sprays at double-strength and that’s made things very revealing come out - you need to be on-guard to handle any self-effects at those high levels even if applied on your wrists.
Try the back of the neck, it’s pretty good and gives the same effect.
I will say that beta nol defintitely will make people say some weird things. This girl was telling me she was crapping so much that her butthole was sore and I’m like…, so as oom said, “be prepared”.
I’ve just ordered P83 and I’m going to try this mix next week. I’ll let everyone know how it goes.
PS: I’m kinda worried about using P83 cause the girl I’m going to test it on is pretty…upfront about her emotions and I’m wondering if she’s going to maul me in the car…
I love them both, but definitely use beta-nol more often. Of course, it just lends itself to what I do, which is work with teenagers. It helps draw out the truth of what they’re thinking, whereas alpha-nol just ramps up the noise and silliness. Headache.
I also have five kids at home, and for an experiment I once used 8 sprays of IO just before we got in the car. The level of chatter and non-sensical noise in my minivan was deafening. I WILL NOT do that again. ha ha
Hey, great topic!!! I was actually going start a thread asking, “What is the highest doses/concentrations anyone has used of IH by itself and what are the effects on others?” A couple of quick questions: Does IH seem to to be more of a disinhibitor for people to blurt out personal information? If used in large concentrations would people feel connected to the wearer as if they’ve know them for years? Could it be sexual without adding tuth or jerk?
For the past two weeks I’ve been spraying one shot on my hand right before I go to bed. For me the self effects were that when laying in bed I have gotten a warm/excited feeling inside. Very simular to when you have a crush on someone and cannot quit thinking of them. Also, I have noticed to have few if any negative thoughts while laying there.
