Possible Bad Batch of Phero's?

Hey, guys! I just got my second order in the mail today and I am very excited to test them. I first got my uncle to smell them, just to make sure they didn’t wreak (like he thought the others did) and to both of us, they smelled pleasant. I was thrilled! I asked him to smell my AMMO 1x (from my first order) again and he said it smelled terrible. I originally thought it was the -none that he thought smelled bad but in my new order I had two MX’s that he though smelled good, and one of them was -none heavy I think (MX292 or MX203). In addition, he also thought that IO, IShine, and IH from my first order smelled bad, and those have no -none.

So I was thinking, is it possible that I got a bad batch of pheros for my first order? Maybe they were accidentally unscented? Also, I have not gotten as many hits as I expected but I very well could be wrong as I am not yet sure what to look for. I have not had many OBVIOUS ones I mean. I am going to test the new ones out ASAP (very excited)!

I’d really like some input because I’d rather not wear the old batch if they are bad or anything.

Thanks a bunch!

Just for clarifying purposes:
-First Order:
–IS 1x
–IO 1x
–IH 1x
–IG 1x
–IJ
–Spaceland
–AMMO 1x
–A314
–TUTH

-Second Order:
–CTTM2
–P83 12.5mcg/spray 6% Neroli
–P74 12.5mcg/spray 6% Neroli
–MX292
–MX203

you sure bought a lot for someone who isn’t sure that these even work…;p no worries, they do! the key is you don’t know what any of these do by themselves. you can’t make mixes with this frame of thought:

I want sex so ammo
I want people to talk so IO
I want to make sure the Ammo works so p83
i heard IJ can be good so why not
etc.
etc.

you should test them all out one by one spend a week on each. then in the days after that week without them you will be able to see the differences for sure. all of these are ‘mixes’ already, so the all have multiple pheromones in them already. A314 for example has 17 different pheromones. give them a shot on their own, and be a social person! then you will have a whole new crazy scientist world to play in.

He is smelling the mones most likely and mones dont smell good. We dont wear them because they smell good we wear them to evoke emotion and reaction.
This is why most of us use cover and part of the reason they add scent cover to most products. He is smelling them straight out of the bottle even with the cover added he may be able to detect the mones especially if you made him aware they are there.

Tisha

Oh no! I didn’t mean to imply that I’m not sure they work! I have complete and utter faith in pheromones =D

I just thought that the batch I got might be a askew somehow (either very old or unfragranced or something).

And yes I completely agree that I have not been very … dilligent with wearing one at a time. I really should, I know, and thanks for reminding me :wink:

What I am concerned with is if my pheromone sprays smell bad or something.

That’s what I thought originally, but when he smelled all of my new ones, he said he liked the smell. Even the one with -none!

As for the cover, I am still trying to find a good cologne but my problem is that a lot of the time I’d rather be scent-free rather than smell good.

When I asked him to test it, I sprayed one spray of one of them on my wrist, spread it to the other wrist (not rubbing, blotting), and waited 15 minutes. Then I told him that it was a new cologne, NOT pheromones.


Ok I need to clarify 2 things that I forgot to include originally:

  1. The only reason I considered this was because on androtics.com I saw that all of the 30ml bottles were being made with new labels and not the aluminum brushed ones in the pictures. All of mine except for Instant Gentleman had the old label so I wasn’t quite sure how old the others were.

  2. I am in no way trying to complain - I just need to know so I can stop using them if they are bad. In fact, MOST of what I got were FREE GIFTS from Androtics! I love this company and know that the effects are real (especially after feeling spaceland!).

Considering that most people “love” the smell of Ammo and get compliments on it all the time, the people I have asked either said it smelled “cheap” or “horrible”, I was almost positive that the batch may have been bad in some way.

So here is what I was thinking: maybe I could put a tad bit of my ammo or something in a little bottle and ship it to an experienced user and they can tell me if it smells and acts (in the field) as it should.

Anyway, thanks for all the replies!

Sure a bad batch is possible, but highly unlikely, and certainly not across so many product lines at once. Methinks you need a better qualified nose…

There was a “bad” batch of A314 a couple years back. I think they forgot to add the scent package. Whatever, once word got out, the mutant batch was in high demand and the stuff of many endearing posts.

Well actually I’ve been thinking that maybe it wasn’t a bad batch, but rather old and/or neglected. Again, a lot of it was free so I have no complaints but if someone could tell me when Androtics started using the new labels I’d really appreciate it. =D

P.S. I have not by any means ruled out the possibility that I’m doing something wrong.

It’s preserved in alcohol for crying out loud. Unless you’re keeping it in a hot car or window, it will be highly potent for many years of reasonably cool storage, kinda like wine or whiskey. I have mones I bought 5 years ago that still work as well as the day I received them.

There is one way to fix this whole problem, Gegogi has the right idea. You need more than one nose to make a firm resolution that they do in fact smell ‘old’ or ‘bad’

SO, what have other people said when you wore them before. do they cringe? did girls act strangely in any way?

Call SteveO up and discuss the situation with him. He would know best out of all of us I figure. :wink:

Hey there Kav I can help put to rest some of your concerns for you. Batches of any product don’t sit around longer than a week or two before another batch is made. We regularly make new batches pretty much every week. We can barely keep up with the supply :slight_smile:.

Many times there are variables to every batch that is made and hence the detailed batch logs we keep. Some of those variables are who took the molecules from their raw state into the next phase. What batch of molecules were used, who made the finished product like Ishine? There are many, many steps and processes that need to be considered and each step and process is logged.

Here’s the really GOOD NEWS though, it doesn’t sound as if you and your uncle are far off and actually it sounds like you have a very keen smell observation. Yours and his reactions are almost identical to my initial reactions when I first started using Androtics mones.

I’ll never forget the first day I went to BuckyStars using some Ishine, IO and IH and some Ammo. I though I stunk to high-hell. I mean like reeked of pee and sweat and foulness. Like I just finished rolling around in six day old road kill. Yeah it evokes memories of illness. I used to spray it under my shirt, on my wrists and actively try to cover my wrists with my sleaves. Me being a pretyy socially observant person I was suprised by the hits and even more so no one was walking out holding their noses. Not one lady actually kicked me out of bed :slight_smile:.

The first time I wore IFM, which only comes unscented, I was like Good God, this is going to cause people to wretch in the streets. Very Stinky stuff. I’m not a big cologne guy although my sister works as a chief buyer for one of the most exclusive department stores in the world. Very ritzy place that I wouldn’t be caught dead in. She sends me every cologne in the book and then some. I loved eBay for the longest time and I’m sure was loved by others seeking $300 colognes for $50.

Anyway I had an amazing collection of colognes but I only liked a couple. So I covered the IFM the best I could and mixed with the IFM it smelled like body odor covered with cologne. Does not evoke lovely smell memories. Imagine a dirty hippy-chick at a Dead concert un-showered for a few days covering the stench with Patchouli. Yeah not pleasant :open_mouth:.

Well one day at our lovely Jasmin’s request she asked me to just wear my IFM and no cologne. I had to swear all to my chagrin that I would and I kept that promise. I went to BuckyStars covered in about 5 sprays of IFM and guess what happened: the chick behind the counter was like OMG you smell amazing SteveO. In fact when I was doing her every way in the Kama Sutra and then some she kept going to my application points and nuzzling. Yeah I sprayed some down there and yeah she nuzzled me till I wept.

Very soon afterwards I noticed a change in myself as well. I started to desensitize myself to the scent of the mones. I became less self-aware of the scent and more aware of the results. My point is you have also gone through this very process. You and your uncle have very good noses and now that you are more aware that others are not like yuck to your new scent you are more willing to accept it therefore it doesn’t smell as bad. Really not so odd at all.

In actuality a very keen observation and I’m glad you posted it. This post is going to help a lot of other users, most new users, and for that its earned my reps and a nomination for Thread of the Week. Nice report.:smiley:

Oh yeah this thread gains you one reporting user status. Great job

What the f…

Interesting that you brought that up because I just so happen to have an update!

UPDATE: So I’ve asked my uncle to keep smelling these for a while now, and I told them they were pheromones by the second or third time. The last time (late last night), something odd happened. I sprayed him with Ammo and for the first time, he said it was “pleasant”! I was like “No Way!!” So then I wanted to test whether or not it was the -none that was causing him to think it was bad before and, as Steve said, if he got accustomed to it. So what did I do? That’s right! I whipped out the Instant Jerk! And to my surprize, he liked it also! What’s weird is that he seems to be picky with them for reasons that I cannot tell. He seems to like the main -none products (TUTH, AMMO, JERK) a bit more than the lighter instant side (IO, IH, IS) but for some reason he thinks IG smells the worst of the bunch. Not bad, but “okay”.

So for the final test I whipped out my Spaceland. I let him sniff this one from the tip of the sprayer on the to-go and guess what? He LIKED it! He said that it reminded him of “freshly cut pine” since he does a lot of home carpentry.

So for the most part my worries have been put to rest, and I have not yet had the chance to test my new order yet.

And Steve, thanks for the rep, nom, and status!

Strange testing methodology. Realize, without the scent components added, all these mones will smell like piss, pussy, pits, ass and feet. Basically essence of lockerroom and catbox. So be thankful for the added scent.

As for SP smelling like “freshly cut pine,” that’s a new one. The mone component, alpha androstenol, smells like fresh girl sweat but is well masked behind a heapin’ helpin’ 'o clary sage EO. Reminds me more of Steve’s "dirty hippy-chick at a Dead concert…