As noted by a great many people; heavy -none products usually do little more than intimidate younger women. This was certainly my experience this past few days on a trip out of town. Used 2-4 drops of Primal Instinct and got the whole freaked out/scared vibe from two 18 year olds.
Enjoyed experimenting though. Much more looking forward with my experiments with more rounded products though.
Take care all,
Matthew
4 drops of Primal? why mate? do you want to come across as a Neanderthal?
actually I used up to 6 drops. wanted to experiment. no other reason.
matt
Isn’t Primal around 20 mcg/drop? Holy cow… I’m surprised you didn’t kill someone!
Not sure; but it is strong stuff. I basically got little/no results with it so am keen to be done with it - hence using it up quicker and trying to learn a thing or two as I go.
Would much prefer to be experimenting with mega-dose -nol instead - if only for effects on myself (others too hopefully).
Matt
Megadose Alpha nol is fun. 
Lots of fun. Spacey, giddy, silly, blathery fun.
I OD’d on alpha nol again today. I was working on a paper with a female friend of mine, and she broke out into hysterical laughter over just about anything I said. I of course, amused by the whole situation, was laughing along. Eventually I found it unproductive to work with her and ended up leaving. Wouldn’t have been too much of an issue in normal circumstances, but I have three finals and a major project this weekend!
damn,sigma, dont you get sleepy?
i love the nol effect too, especially around others who are not used to it, but then im drained…sleepy. how do you avoid that???:o
Matt, with Primal Instinct the dose you want to use is 1 drop, or even less. This lasts for around 4 hrs or so on skin.
Using 2, 3 or 4 drops is like asking your boss for a payrise on Monday … The latter is more hopeful even.
Your decision, but fyi … PI is a ‘very’ good product.
I believe you, about it being a good product; as I have it on very good authority from a variety of people - although I have had very limited success with it. So a drop or less, huh? Suppose being 24 years old less than a drop is perhaps best?
Will have to see how I go; but certainly not one of my favourites as of yet.
Matthew
Try that 1 drop on neck area .. For some reason it doesn’t work that well on clothes, maybe its mineral oil base needs heat to work.
Say, one drop each day for a week, with nice scrubbing shower each night to clean it. You will see something, positive hopefully.
Engage and report.
Body heat helps diffuse the mones and disperse them into the air. Alcohol diffuses much more easily and quickly than oils do. As such, I would highly recommend sticking to skin applications for oils. Oils can also permanently stain some material.
I’ve never actually felt drained from alphanol…if I have, I never thought to attribute it to the nol. I felt drained last night, but it was likely more a result of the oversized chipotle burrito I had.
These outrageous nol effects very rarely occur though, and its usually at excessive amounts. This particular OD happened by accident in fact. The spray top for my Instant Shine was malfunctioning, so I switched it for my Instant Openness one, getting a crapload of IO on my hands in the process. I didn’t want to waste it so I patted it onto my neck, and made a point not to wash my hands for the rest of the day. Sounds gross, but mones are expensive!, and it made for an interesting experience.
Sigma! Buy a spare empty spray bottle or three on you next order! Always have backup! I made it a point to grab 3 sprays and 3 spare dropper bottles. Good for your custom experiments too, or decanting other products that come in inferior spray botles into (Perception Gold…).
Jasmin! can you correct the typo in the thread title? Such things mess up searches sometimes I think.
wow, so i guess your way more tolerant than i. i still get high using SoE!
i have primal for women, and that seems to be real high in alpanol as well, but i am using so much instant sexiness over all my other mixes that i dont get a chance to get a tolerance up… instant openness rocks though. got to love it. unless your trapped by someone that drives you up the wall, then “got to use the bathroom”…
I used to react pretty strongly to the mones I would wear. I remember when I first started using SOE back in the day, I would act like a downright fool…as in I was a total goofy nut. but now the effects seem to invade my own behavior much less than before. I’ve either built a tolerance to the mones, or have assimilated their effects into my personality over time. Or perhaps its a product of both?
I really should do that. I have these crappy little roll-top bottles that I got from a local EO shop. Leak like crazy.
God those perception bottles were horrible man. They leaked before I ever got em out of the box…plus the waterbased carrier seemed to spoil over time because the bottles didn’t seal properly.