Putative Alternatives to None?

While reading many older threads two Putatives seemed to catch my attention, P83 and P86. One reputed to have a beautifying effect that makes the wearer seem more attractive to others, and the other known for creating a “crush” effect. My question is, could these be used in conjunction with other products like say A314 to up the sexual tension without throwing off the Rone to None ratio of products like A314 and IG? and Could they give more attraction and sexual tension without creating the discomfort and “ghost” effect associated with None OD?

I can’t really say either of those will enhance the sexual tension more. As much as 86 could make you seem more attractive it can also stab you in the back by making you see a girl as more attraction than she really is. I find 83 reduces boundaries a lot as I have girls invading my personal space touching me on the arm and shoulder and whatever.

You should do a search on P75. While I’m not the biggest fan of none I seriously don’t think its replaceable and will always have a place just like the nols and rone.

Maybe I should clarify, not looking to much to replace none, but something that can be used in conjunction with it to turn up the heat, so to speak, without relying solely on none and risking od. Like wanting to boost the sexual aspect of my mix, but I already have a good amount of none and am leary of adding more and risking OD, something that can give a reasonably similar effect without simply adding more none and hoping for the best. I’ll look into P75 though, thanks.

I’d be cautious with P83. In my experience it amplifies what people are feeling, whatever that maybe. I have a report on it somewhere. If I was in a bad mood it made my mood worse, if I was nervous it made me more nervous.

Great if someone is already in a good mood or attracted to you, dangerous if they are nervous around you or you are making them tense. I’d have it in my pocket to spray on to add to a feeling you know is already there, rather than wear it speculatively.

P86 I’ve got no experience of but I’ve read speculation it is in MX353. If so I’ve had a strong self-effect from it in that I’ve felt a new crush for my LTR the next morning after being out for a night with her and I’ve been wearing MX353 - that’s happened twice.

…Try TUTH and P83 together. Try P83 around 25-30mcg then around 60mcg and see if either seem to deliver more sexual hits for you. Read up on P79, and p96. Combine them all with some bnol and the combo can send a very sexual message.

The catch is…its not very approachable. If you want it to work you may have to be the aggressor.

Please remember that this is a combo that has worked for me and may not nessesarily will work for you. Try testing the molecules at different levels to see what works for your personal chemestry.

P86 can also be worn with this

Thanks for the tip, I’ll look into those

P83+ None works very well. P83 works as a booster to the message you are sending. It also seems to be a bit touchy to me, however not necessarily sexual, but maybe in an attractive way if that makes sense. Combine P83 with other helps people act on what they are feeling and what you are sending.

P83 is a great molecule to use with anone. Its not really aggressive at all in my experience. What I do notice is a loss of inhibitions by those around me and myself when using it. Not that I was very inhibited to begin with LOL . I also notice people move more sensually when exposed to P83. It doesn’t increase deliberate touch but if the interest is there people bump or brush against you more and invade your space. There is also a increase in body language shown by those exposed.

For those reasons it go’s very well with a sexual mix. Now if you want to buffer the ghost effect of anone then I would suggest something like a mix of. Anone anol and either anol or TAA

Tisha