Quest For The Holy Grail: Replacing MX330

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My favorite mix for the longest time was MX330 (Steve’s so called “cougar mix”?although as I found out it worked on A LOT more than just cougars). I loved it so much that when it was available I stocked up on 5 vials LOL. I had amazing results with it before but unfortunately it ran out and I kind of forgot about it. Luckily I stumbled on an old vial I had lying around and had some of the most amazing hits of my life with it!

MX330: I decided to use some 330 on a recent trip to vegas. 5 sprays (2 in hair, 2 on neck, 1 split between wrists). Went to XS on Sunday, which is usually a huge nightclub, but they closed the outside area because it was so cold?so basically everyone was packed tightly together in a small enclosed area).

The hits I had that night were insane. It’s what you dream about when you first hear about pheromones. I would just be standing there waiting for my friends to come out of the bathroom and girls would walk up to me, start flirting with me, and ask for my number. This has happened to me before but never this consistently and never this many times in one night (3 - 4 times in a 3 hour period I think).

The best hits I got however were with 2 girls who straight up molested me inside the club. The first one I was pushing my way through the crowd and made eye contact with a cute little asian girl. I gave her a smile and slipped past her. However as we were passing I feel her hand reach down, grab my crotch and start rubbing it LOL. I should’ve followed up but I was so surprised it took me a minute to process it. Doh! Oh well. Later on that night I was standing by the bar trying to get a drink and this cute latina walks up next to me. We exchange some small talk (like “hi?how’re you doing?” etc) and within 2 min I feel her hand reach down and grab my ass. This time I was ready! I pull her in close, my hand on her ass and proceed to make out. The rest of the night ended as you would expect :slight_smile:.

The Aftermath: So after this experience I was determined to find a replacement for this amazing mix. Now granted, I’ve worn MX330 before and I’ve never had this intense of an experience so I think there could’ve been 2 other factors involved. 1) it was vegas on sun of spring break so I think some girls were there for their last night of partying and were just looking for one last wild experience so they were more aggressive than usual or 2) I never wore 5 sprays of MX330 before so that just might’ve been my sweet spot.

Regardless, I remembered an old post where Steve gave his DIY mix for MX330 2.0 so I looked it up and bought the ingredients I was missing for it. The post is here BTW: Mx301 & mx330

2 days ago I finally got my androtics package in the mail and was ready to test it out. So here we go?

MX330 2.0: I wore the mix exactly as Steve described in his post (not sure how many sprays this equals to of the original MX330??if someone could tell me I’d appreciate it :slight_smile:) and ended going to Roxbury last night in Hollywood. P.S. yes it’s THAT Roxbury from the movie with the head bobbing and everything LOL. Strangely enough the conditions were almost identical to the conditions at XS in vegas which made this an interesting test. It was a small packed venue with people constantly pushing past each other, extremely loud music, and cold (for so cal?high 40’s) weather outside.

I think I talked to about 7 different girls last night (all 8’s and above BTW) and every single one of them opened up. No bitchiness, no just being polite?every single one of them were friendly and enthusiastic. 4 gave me DIHL. This in itself isn’t unusual but the consistency (usually you always get 1 or 2 girls who aren’t interested) I attribute to the pheromones. There were no overtly sexual signals but if I had escalated more I’m pretty confident it could’ve led there.

Another possible hit was with the doorman. My buddy and I rolled up to the club at midnight and 2 dudes showing up late without any girls at a hot hollywood club on the weekend is usually a bad idea. To make things worse this was an “invite only” night meaning you have to know a promoter and they have to come outside the club and walk you in. No other groups of guys got let in but after about 15 min we were given entry. I did have to hustle the door guy a little but that’s just standard. Not sure if it was the mones but I’m sure they helped.

By the end of the night I was walking around the club one last time and had 3 different girls stare at me, giving me really strong eye contact, which I count as more hits. Also the female bartender was super responsive to me (came up to me right away, served me before other people, etc) and poured me really strong drinks. I count that as another hit.

Finally the best hit of the night came outside the club. I left just a little after 2 and was waiting for my friend outside when I saw a girl standing there solo (probably looking for her friends too). Now I’d actually gotten laid earlier that day with an old FB of mine (which is another interesting story involving TAC but I’ll post that up later) so I wasn’t looking for anything (mostly just came out to test out the mix?LOL) but I knew my friend was looking for a girl that night. So I approached and we talked for a bit, my goal being to hold her long enough for my friend to get a crack at her. My buddy finally rolls up and tries to game her but she had eyes only for me. She would reject him and try to leave but then I would say something and she would stop, come back, and turn completely towards me. We kept this up for about 5 min before we finally let her go (she obviously wasn’t into my buddy) but it was pretty funny. In the end my friend told me, “Dude she was so into you. What’s up with that?” I just sorta shrugged and said, “I dunno?just got lucky I guess.” :wink:

Conclusion: Overall I think Steve’s MX330 2.0 is a pretty damn solid mix. The results I got were pretty consistent with an “average” night of original 330 as I remember it and I’ll definitely be playing with this mix more. However I’d like to get the kind of results I got in vegas but on a more consistent basis…maybe not every night but I want it to be something I can count on happening from time to time and not just a one time event. I think this mix definitely has the potential for that.

I’m thinking of maybe playing with the ratio of none in the mix to amp up the sexual vibe more or adding some A314 for more value? I’d also like the know how the mix as Steve posted it translates into the number of sprays in the original 330? Also some of the ingredients in the mix (IH mainly) are damn expensive and if there are any alternatives I’d like to hear them too?maybe some A1 (which I love) instead of IH?

Anyway it was a fun night and a great mix. I can’t wait to try it out again. Thanks Steve for posting the recipe. :slight_smile:

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Great report and my vote for TOTW!

I would say that it really doesn’t matter how many I would spray as to what you would. The important variable is what works for you. If I use 7 sprays and all you need is 3 that’s what is important.

I get a lot of requests for this mix and its why I posted what it was. This way you can make it all your own.

Again very nice report. You just earned yourself reporting user status!

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Oh wow! Thanks Steve! For the nomination and the Reporting User Status. I really appreciate it. :slight_smile:

I’ll keep playing with the mix and post back on this thread…

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Thanks for reminding me of this mix, its interesting :slight_smile:

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Can you still get the MX330? I’m looking for a mine which will get women to almost approach me. I’m using Ammo currently. I’ve not see much from it. IS, definitely opens more chat but would like something to almost ‘home’ women in. Heard good things about holygrail?! Was considering using tuth and is combined for getting this reaction at work(lots of women) any advice?

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Its not been sold for a while now but Steve’s mix-it-yourself MX330 is linked in the OP and all the components for that are regularly on sale:

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Thanks mobocaster. I’ll buy the wxtra’s I need. Ideally want to steer clear of IJ, it doesn’t sound like something that would be good for me.

Do you use Ammo? How does it work for you? Been using at work all week with little response. Perhaps I’m not noticing the hits?!

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I would be inclined to go for TUTH over IJ in that mix as IJ’s more abrasive steering could be more limiting - however, its really all about the Androstenone dose/proportion in that mix - @20-25mcg, which is quite feasable around a more mature woman.

Yes, I use Ammo sometimes and it gets nice resonses - even at work. What dose range have you been using?

It all depends on what you are looking for but work is often not the best place for sexual responses as people do tend to keep their work and social personalities apart and will hold back where they are not comfortable with sexual feelings. Often a lower dose will do better than higher and most usually with someone who is pretty comfortable around you already. Work hits can also be exceptionally subtle - again, maybe for the reasons suggested above, so more careful obvservation is useful. Have you read the IOI thread - lots of experience/examples there.

TBH, I tend to work mostly with social/status mones at work, then sexualise them after work, when things relax.

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Was wondering if I could sub some of the pheros used in steves mix:

50 mcg TAA – Could I use 1 spray of spaceland?

4 sprays of TUTH 2X or 2 IJ — I have a to go of TUTH..so would that be the equivalent of 8 sprays!!!

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Spaceland won’t be a suitable replacement as its primarily Alpha-nol, which would give the mix a much different vibe to using TAA, not saying it would not be a good mix, but TAA adds a confidence to the mix which is irreplaceable except for instant Shine of course.

Togos produce approx 80% volume per spray compared to 30ml bottles

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Sorry to hijack the thread but I’ve never made a mix before and want to test this mix this weekend.

I have IS so would that be a suitable replacement for TAA?

Would I need to mix these amount into a togo via a pippette or just spray them directly onto my skin…or even spray them into a togo perhaps? (seems like a lot of tuth though)

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Thanks for the feedback.
New to learn more on IOI. Had some reactions but not sure ifninsould have had these with or withou the moans.
Tempted with tuth and is for work. Apply the tuth in a low dose. My main aim at work is to establish attraction and then work on that on social
Evenings with a few drinks. I know the tuth is not generally good for work
But has anyone else tried it? Perhaps at low dosage is it ok?!

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I’ll occasionally wear a small amount of TUTH at work or an event/work social thing just to shake things-up a bit but yes, more generally its not a phero condusive to a good working environment - unless you moderate it well, which often ends-up taking it back in the direction of Ammo.

Wear TUTH when working closely with people who are not into you sexually and you will see them becoming visibly uncomfortable.

And work is the very llast place I’d think on wearing this mix - Keep it for a much more determinedly sexual/uninhibited situation - Clubs, parties etc. Anywhere where women let their hair down.

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IS would be a viable alternative to TAA yes.

Layering on the skin is best, but mixing a small quantity - no more than a couple of days worth is also viable but skin is always best in the first instance as you can adjust the mix more easily. Once you have made a togo and started spraying from it, its next to impossible to vary things accurately or repeatably.

This is not a lot of TUTH as far as older women are concerned - Which is the express purpose of the mix. Once women get into their thirties and above, they tend to become much more comfortable with much higher and more overt doses of none. Do not expect this mix to work well around younger women though - you may meet the odd exception but most will likely want to avoid you like the plague!

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Thanks mobo…Gonna use IS (dont have any TAA)… and probably only 2 or 3 sprays of TUTH…8 seems crazy to use in one outing to me.

Gonna be a total of around 12 sprays! Would you recommend staggering these over a period of time?

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This is a cougar mix - you will need to go high on the none. Maybe not quite as high as eight sprays, depending on circumstances but I would say at lest five or six. Less than that and I think the other components will overmoderate the basic nature of the mix to something akin to a slightly wobbly/off-balance Ammo, unless you adjust the proportions slightly - esp the TAA/IS