Actually we are not totally disagreeing. As I said in my above post I am not saying dont use it just be prepared to buffer it if needed.
In your statement here>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your doing just that, your buffering it quite a bit and its working great for you.
Isnt this polarization or as I stated going from one extreme to the next ? People tend to not like those who they feel intimidated by. So your reaction from men at least are polarized with IJ. I know from my experience with IJ and testing it on others you either either become very annoyed by them but they are amusing or your turned on.
There are two kinds of “uncomfortable” well probably more then that but in this situation two. One she feels intimidated or uneasy because of it or Two she feels turned on and “bothered” by it. Just like men get uncomfortable when they experience , lets call it unexpressed arousal so do women. This could be the discomfort your seeing. Younger women can find this feeling intimidating but its still arousal you just need to know what to do with it to escalate it. More experienced women will either act on it or show indifference like you said.
Men could be borderline hostile because your more of a threat with TUTH on then IJ. With TUTH your sexual competition. With IJ your not, your just another guy looking to get laid like them.
Not saying this is what is happening to you. I am not there to see it so I cant say but its something to ponder.
That link posted by Tisha has a couple interesting references in it. MHarris mentions the added mones are “intensifiers” not buffers, or “steering” molecules. Kinda nitpicking on vocabulary but it makes me wonder if the original intent and formulation in 2006 are different than the current incarnation without cops. I say this because I feel like I OD at about the same place with IJ as I do with ammo and they have drastically different amounts of none. I also find IJ to calm me somewhat while ammo makes me anxious.
MHarris also likens IJ to “a better looking howard stern.” Given that, who do you get if you add howard stern (IJ) to pierce brosnan (IG)? haha
IJ and IG NOW thats a mixed signal I love to send OR is it actually a mixed signal!?!?! I think if you take the effects of IJ alone and IG alone you may think OPPOSITES, but what signal are you sending when paired together?? Thats what I’m wondering. I have had some success with this combo and with other mones thrown in to it. IH at 4 sprays for example. I just wonder what people think in their minds when exposed to this and what are they feeling??? Sometimes I wish I could read minds I know I can sit here and THINK I know what they are supposed to feel, but it would be nice sometimes to ACTUALLY know.
When you think about the components of IG + IJ, it’s actually a pretty good balance.
IJ = 12.5 mcg androstenone + “intensifiers”
IG = 12.5 mcg (I think) androsterone + one or more “steering” molecules that seem to add up to a kind of bright, youthful note
An all-arounder like Ammo has -none and -rone in a 1:1 ratio (I think…), along with a healthy dose of -nol to brighten it up.
So if you consider a spray of IJ and a spray of IG as a single product, IGJ, you get 1:1 -none:-rone, with steering molecules to both brighten and intensify. That mix makes pretty good sense.
In terms of field effects I would predict that you can carry the sex appeal and attitude of the jerk while having IG lighten the tension. I’m waiting for IJ to ship in so I can try this out with SOE as the buffer
IJ is BADDD seriously…it made me really pissed off for some reason…its fun though hahaha cause you dont notice the effects until its TOO LATE… seriously though after I used it I found myself calling my friends “dumbass” and “stupid idiot” and other not so nice names for like the smallest reasons…and I didnt even notice i was being an asshole. I think IJ would be good if you get picked on at school or at work or something. Because you will probably stand up for yourself and not give a damn what people think of you when you do. PEACE
I’ve used the IG + IJ combo to great success…I Love it. The vibe I get is that I’m a sexy classy guy, who does have that mysterious bad boy side that can come out at any time.
I honestly believe women need you to have that mystery to you, otherwise there’s no challenge, therefore no attraction.
Right on all points but basically my point being not that Jerk isn’t polarizing or that it can’t be od’d on. But rather that from my experiences with it both it and TuTH, each as a standalone that the negatives with Jerk seem milder and less frequent both in a spray for spray or mcg for mcg comparison.
A single spray of jerk is 15 mcg of total mones and alone it works ok…better buffered but generally ok.
A single spray of TuTH (2.5mcg total mones) is a little awkward, a few women will respond but most might be a little uncomfortable, it seems that the 2.5 mcg is more intimidating to women than the 15 mcg of jerk is.
Now 6 sprays of TuTH to equal 15 mcg of total mones, and I was ghosted like nobodies business. Did it two days in a row, had two very awkwardly powerful hits but otherwise I was the invisible man. No such extreme reactions from Jerk in comparison.
Had to go get all technical did we . I guess if you look at it that way. I was looking more at “effects” or “name”. When first purchasing these you would say that combining a jerk with a gentleman would be pointless, but if you look on the technical side it makes sense… Nice lil’ post there dbot
What do you think would happen with IS added to boost your confiedence even more and IH to make you super truthfull… just imagine the aftermath. had me thinking cause I got a free sample of IH with my order so i’m afraid to combo them together… Will run 1 week of ammo and IS stacked with SOE before I even attempt IJ, rather have smoother first impressions.
Is IJ Officer Tom hanson (Johnny Depp) in 21 jump street. The guy who can look hot and fashionable and get any woman but has an attitude and is still perceived as nice. Kinda the nice guy whose an asshole to bad guys?
Just trying to figure out a character I can compare it to so I can best act out the role if I buy it. I’m naturally the type of guy who doesn’t express his opinions to much. I look like a nice guy, dress fashionable, but want more zest to me.
I’m not alpha in the office sense. I’d like to be a bad boy.
Who does it attract, what women ethinicities and what age? How does it compare to edge/npa?
“I’d like to be a bad boy”… in what sense bro? Bad boys can take many forms…do you want to be a bad ass in a professional sense? or with the ladies? do you want to be the “i don’t give a damn” guy? Unfortunately there is no one size fits all “bad boy”…it all depends on what you want to achieve.
In terms of the actors, IJ is (in my opinion based on my experiences) similar to the characteristics related to (and of course, this is a BIG generalization):
Buddy Love (Nutty Professor)
Bollywood actor Salman Khan
Pretty much any top-grade polo player (I know because I play polo regularly…its amazing how congruent these guys are with the product…I should push it to them!!)
Evil Bond 006
The Maverick character played by Tom Cruise in Top Gun
The main villain in Karate Kid (the original one) - the kid that Daniel Laruso fights in the end, the blond kid. Same actually in Karate Kid 3, the guy that Laruso fights at the end of that one as well. Hahahaa, even the rich industrialist guy with the ponytail!
I’m sure there are many many more. Other forum members please chime in!!
To be honest though, Instant Jerk is probably a bit of a misnomer. These guys aren’t “jerks” - but when I see these people, I can sense they would be a great fit for the product.
Buddy Love pretty much defines it for me. Cocky, confident, assertive and alpha in a lot of ways, but lacking the smoother and more refined qualities of A314
Since this got bumped I might as well update that I use IJ and find Ammo at 2 sprays does a much better job with IOI’s while being more social, I got zero self effects from IJ
I know I can sit here and THINK I know what they are supposed to feel, but it would be nice sometimes to ACTUALLY know.
. I guess if you look at it that way. I was looking more at “effects” or “name”. When first purchasing these you would say that combining a jerk with a gentleman would be pointless, but if you look on the technical side it makes sense… Nice lil’ post there dbot