I have some questions regarding use, among other things. I haven’t used a pheromone product before (sans Phelure, which I’ve experimented with for a number of months with no success. I wish I would have found smartmones first!)
I was wondering what implications, if any, testosterone levels have on the use of pheromones. I’ve never been tested, but I’ve never had chest hair so I think it’s safe to assume I might have lower levels than the average guy. Do lower levels diminish the effects of -none or other pheromones?
Also, does having gel/product in your hair impact the way they may work if sprayed on the hair?
I’ve recently exited from a 4 year relationship and have found it a bit difficult to initiate dates or randomly hookup with someone (with the exception of one instance ). I’ve just ordered my first bottle of Instant Shine, and I think this would be a good starter for me. Are there any other products that might make a good combo that someone could reccommend for this situation?
I’m interested in A314 as well, however I think that I might wait on this until I begin to use IS, and possibly others. I think that it would be useful for my work environment, and possibly other situations as well.
BTW I think that this is a great board and have enjoyed perusing the info and find it quite interesting. Thanks for your help!
well kiddo i exited from a 13-14 yr relationship,lol, so i have some idea what your going through. getting in the swing of just talking with any intent of dating someone is just weird at first.
weird. Instant Shine was a great first choice i think… i might even take it further and pick up some IO and maybe some Ammo (woo hoo that stuff is hot). thats just my opinion. but even if you only had shine you would be better off than not having anything. why? shine imparts confidence. you want to talk. you feel less awkward (if you even feel it at all) and it puts those around you in a good mood… who wouldnt want to be around that?
like i said, those are my experiences.
i look forward to you posting your results.
we’re all brutally honest here , LOL, even if its not always great!
You might start with a description of yourself, both physically and personality, that would help people with suggestions.
Also, location/culture needs to be taken into consideration.
Physically, I am a fit 6’0 170lb 25 yr old male. I do my share of partying on the weekends. I smoke about 1 pack per week. I work in an office with a mix of young and old. I live in a major Metropolitan area of the midwest.
My personality…hmm. I tend to be introverted at times. I have always been able to make friends, though, and I love making others laugh when I can. Most people don’t really take a shine to me until they’ve hung out with me for a few times. (that’s why I have IS on the way, lol)
I guess what I would like to get out of the use of mones is to just be able to break the ice more often, and have it be a bit more rewarding. I do have times where this happens in normal everyday life, of course, but would like more consistency and confidence in everyday interpersonal relations. Some extra confidence and respect would be nice too, that’s why A314 sounds nice, but I know that you have to take more initiative when you use it, from what I’ve read. I guess getting laid wouldn’t hurt either , but I would just like to experiment with some others before I go down that route. I understand that mones won’t fix everything that I could be better at, and they won’t turn me into Dirk Diggler, but I wouldn’t mind a little assistance from chemistry to help me along.
I think there are a number of us here who are sorta “restarting” our social lives. I’m recovering from a 10 plus-year gap due to “complications” from a medical problem (now fixed), but the idea is similar. You might say I’m also trying to “ReBooT” my social life.)
There are many factors to consider of course. Your personal chemistry, goals, experience, outlook, etc. There is some mental “resetting” you need to do as well.
Pheromone wise it was suggested to me to give IShine and IOpen a try for starters. Something like Ammunition might be a thing to try too as a “general purpose mix.” If you suffer from an intimidating look (sometimes called the Clint Eastwood Effect or CEE) maybe Instant Gentleman. Maybe. There are mixed opinions on Instant Female Magic, but if you have the funds I’d add that to your collection too.
If you’ve not had experience with any pheromone products I’d start low and slow until you get the hang of it. Small steps.
Remember these products are to affect you as well as others around you.
You might also need to review what is sometimes called “your game.” Your social game plan so to speak. “Idot’s Guide to Dating” sort of thing. “Seduction for Dummies.” Etc. But forget any of that “player” stuff… (My opinion.)
After looking through a few posts, I found that there’s a possiblity of IS not working very well for a smoker…I smoke about 3 cigarettes per day (sometimes more when I drink). Will this dramatically reduce its effectiveness? Probably something I would need to experiment with regardless..
Well today is Saturday and my IS was shipped on Monday. I was gleefully on my way to the mailbox today, Christmas Morning style, only to discover it hasn’t arrived yet. I think a different shipping option other than the USPS is in line for my next order.
At about the same time I ordered the IS, i had some free samples of perception and TE from the other place (both gels) I used TE for a bar outing one night (3/4 package of gel). I wasn’t sure about the results, being the first time I’ve used mones and all. Myself and this other woman were being playful, and she ended up slapping my arse and grabbing my junk at one time, but again, we were just being playful. Some might qualify that as a hit. Other than that, I noticed another lady giving some looks. I used the last 1/4 of the gel pack at work just for the heck of it. Didn’t notice too much. Tonight I’m going to an Oktoberfest celebration, and I’m not sure if i’m going to try perception or TE. From what I’ve read, it seems that perception may as well be as useful as cat urine for most who’ve tried it.
I’m much more excited about IS and the SM products for what I’d like to accomplish. I’m going to get a bottle of IO and possiblly some CTTM2 for my next order. I’ve also been smoke free for the past few days, as phero use is probably a good excuse to make me quit anyways.
my friend smokes PLENTY and he will not go without instant shine. he has 1/4 bottle left and i think he was shaking when he told me that…
(you know who you are!!! )
Given your age, we would at one time say don’t worry about your testosterone. In the present day, we treat men younger than you. Getting a baseline Free and Total testosterone is a great idea to get a baseline for down the road, when most men want to bring their levels back to an age that they felt great.
Well, after a week of patiently waiting for the Pony Express, I finally got my bottle of Instant Shine. I’m going to be trying it out tomorrow during work. I also have a bottle of IO on the way, fed ex this time. I was also pleasantly surprised with a sample of ammo, very nice.
I’m excited to begin testing, especially at work. Won’t be using the ammo there, tho.
im not sure what others have had to say to the contrary, but Ammo is not the same to me as heavy androstenone products, and smells real good.
im not sure you would need to keep it out of the workplace , worn in small amounts.
okay, im biased.
Well I’ve been trying out my Instant Shine, IO and tried out some ammo tonight. I wore Instant Shine on Tuesday at the workplace. For testing purposes, I didn’t wear anything the following day (wednesday), and then tried out some IO and Instant Shine today (thursday) I tried two sprays of each one, each time.
I thought that there was probably a bit more interaction going on during the days that I wore mones. Its probably too early to tell and of course warrants much more experiementation. There was definitely less interaction during the day I didn’t wear the mones, and I noticed on the days that I wore Instant Shine or the IO Instant Shine combo there were more instances of people congregating around my cubicle and talking to me.
Tonight a girl I used to date in school went out with me for a few drinks at a bar. I know that she is dating someone right now, so I wasn’t expecting any random play. I wore 2 sprays of IO and Instant Shine this morning before work, but showered after I worked out during the evening. So before we went out to the bar, I threw on 2-3 more sprays of both, and 2 sprays of ammo applied to both wrists and subsequently wiped on my neck and behind my ears. She seemed to be pretty chatty, wasn’t sure if it was anything out of the ordinary. We both seemed quite comfortable with each other the entire time. At the end of the night, I mentioned that she should come to my halloween party at the end of the month, but she mentioned that she wanted to get together even before then. Not sure if this was a product of her just wanting my companionship and wanting to hang out, or if it was a “mones effect” so to speak.
Either way, I’m having a good time experimenting and I know its going to take more experimentation before seeing any very noticable results. I think I’ll be taking the day off from mones tomorrow at least during work, and possibly try something tomorrow night. Sorry for the long post, but I thought I would give a little update with my experimentation. Any insights or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
IO:IShine is a kick ass combination for socializing. I mean it doesn’t get any better. (Unless you add a spritz of IFM, maybe.) (And maybe a bit of IH.) Damn, I can never keep my mixes simple anymore.
So I’ve been experimenting on and off for about a week now. I’m still not able to notice too much of a difference on days that I wear IS with IO. Its going to take more than a week for experiemtation, I know. I usually wear no more than 2 sprays of each. I did wear 3 of both one night, with no noticeable results.
Would it be prudent to step the sprays up a bit at this time? Or maybe I just need more time to recognize the effects? Also, if I remember correctly, the instant line are mostly -nols. Is there less chance of OD and buildup with these?
BTW, i’m pretty sure my blood type is O. I’ve read that this blood type can have larger amounts of -none than others. I don’t really see myself as a type that would emit a lot of -none I guess, personality wise.
You should be getting hits at that level. Where do you apply them? I use my neck and forearms so it affects me. That’s half the fun with that mix. But I like to experiment with everything from 1 to 5 sprays of everything. Have fun.
The Instant line are all different. Instant Openness is alpha Nol, instant honesty is beta nol. But Instant Female Magic is mainly A1. Instant sexiness, well hell it has nol in it, but it also has 4 other things. God (and Harris) only knows what’s in Instant Gentleman. But Instant Jerk is androsteNONE and copulins as I understand.
I’m blood type O, too. Physically, you’d never guess it. I’m slender built, and I don’t have really hairy arms or anything. But it doesn’t take much none to kick me into nasty aggressive mode, that’s for sure. I don’t think looks really account for none production all the time.
I think it’s kind of simple. Figure out what you want to accomplish, use the right dose, ( because that’s probably the second most important factor), and then use the appropriate product. Using 3-6 products justs confuses things.
One author I read a while back is of the opinion that type O was the “original” primitive blood type, and all the rest (A, B, AB) came later, in fact relatively recently. So maybe (and these are my thoughts) those of us with type O also have a tendency toward the more “primitive” system of communications, including pheromones, and produce more of the more raw “species survival” pheromones than others, ie -none in males, which seems to be more of a “agressive/territorial” signal to other males, and a “defensive submissivness” creator in females (although some claim it also seems to create “hornyness” [or however you’d spell it/call it]). Nature does it’s best to ensure the continuation of the species through breeding (at a young age) and this may be part of that mechanism.
This author (name escapes me right now) also was of the opinion that type A came about at about the same time humans became more settled and agrarian, living in closer communities, which maybe (?) means there was a shift into more of the “social” pheromones like -nol in those people, and away from -none. (Same would be true of type B and AB which supposedly came into being also as we became even more group/socially oriented.
He also figured that one of these days as the population grows we may even develop a “type C” blood type that reflects these social/environmental changes.
I’m not too sure of that when you consider the “Toba Catastrophe” where most of the human population was wiped out about 70,000 years ago, taking most of the genetic pool with it.
). I’ve just ordered my first bottle of Instant Shine, and I think this would be a good starter for me. Are there any other products that might make a good combo that someone could reccommend for this situation?
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