remmy reps for the update!
you might be onto something with the P107/Ritalin comparison.
**Note in the posts below (he was using 75 mcg), SteveO noticed with P107 on that whereas he was extremely conversational, he was also “feeling that the conversation needs to be about something valuable so as not to waste an iota of the molecule.” Perhaps P107 works by increasing the ability to delay gratification which, aside from helping you to study harder, ****might also explain the fact that SteveO “just didn’t care how hot a lady was. If she wasn’t on my wavelength it didn’t matter.” Perhaps ‘hot lady’ might equal near-term reward whereas ‘woman on my wavelength’ might equal longer-term goal. I have included an article below which explains the concept in more detail… **
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tisha23 (July 5, 2008):
“…P107
12.5 Smells like alcohol
Again spent almost a week with it. Started with one spray worked up to 6 which is when I started to get some very mild vibe patterns
Did notice a calm centering feeling. Similar to acceptance. Sort of placid like cool calm water
Didn’t notice to much from others, people seemed content and calm but there was no reason not to be so it was hard to tell…”
P106 P107 - #11 by tisha23 (P106 P107 - #11 by tisha23)
tisha23 (September 2008):
“…I used both bottles up with no real results to report. I even used them with TAF (https://pheromonelabs.com/). P107 did give me a sort of calming feeling but no hits to report…”
Give me some Alphanol & Crystal Meth: What do you get P107 (Give me some Alphanol & Crystal Meth: What do you get P107)
SteveO (September 2008):
“ Give me some Alphanol & Crystal Meth: What do you get P107
I started testing P107 yesterday and the very first observation was the scent of the pheromones (Give me some Alphanol & Crystal Meth: What do you get P107) masked only slightly by the SD40 and DPG was of burnt something. I can’t quite place it yet, but there’s a distinct burnt smell to this Putative.
I have a 5 mL to go bottle 25 mcg unscented. Yesterday I used three sprays. I like to test with less but I thought I had 12.5 thats the reason for the sheer insanity of my testing.
Other than the burnt smell the first observation was extreme motivation to get something, anything done. I was deliberating whether I should go out to eat or just get something from the market. I really didn’t want to go to the market since there are always hot babes there and that would mean changing. My work gear is usually sandals, shorts and a t-shirt. Hey, I work alone at home, what else are you going to wear? Then as soon as I sprayed it was whammo, all dressed up and heading to the market without even thinking anymore. I decided I would bring my dad along too for conversational company. My goodness I talked the whole way.
I mean I just wouldn’t shut up and actually at one point I was having a talk with myself. My dad was like, “son, are you on drugs?” “Well no dad, I found this new molecule that might just be the answer to Crystal Meth without loosing all your teeth.”
Seriously though I just chatted away and was in a damn fine mood. It was a shame because I didn’t see anyone in the store, chick wise. There was one woman who was standing in the doorway talking to two dudes. I was so comfortable with what I was doing that I made this eye contact while my mind was telling me that she wasn’t in the same class as me. Ok that’s weird, SteveO is being judgmental! In the store there was no delay, I was in and out and got everything I needed. No stopping to ask questions, just right to the isles I needed stuff from and a quick stop to the deli.
Another observation was that within minutes of spraying it on I had one of those stretches that cause the whole body to just explode with energy when your done. Funny thing it happened today when I just sprayed too. I had forgotten that, or hadn’t associated it with P107, but there it was today too.
Same dilemma today. I wasn’t really motivated to write anything just yet and I need to go to store again to pick up some vitals. I sprayed two sprays today and I am so focused to get this written and now I am also motivated to go out to the world for food.
I still have not noticed any hits with any outside influences as of yet. My dad is not a good test subject because he has not been feeling well the last couple of days. In his seventies, he’s not really very socially aware of what pheromones I wear and how they effect him. Grew up in an error where emotions were for the weak. I guess logging when he was 12 can do that to you.
I’ll keep you posted.”
Give me some Alphanol & Crystal Meth: What do you get P107 (Give me some Alphanol & Crystal Meth: What do you get P107)
SteveO (September 2008):
“I had some very interesting conversations tonight. I would say this is definitely chatty like I originally reported, but with a side of deep. Almost like my party combo of 8 sprays of Instant Openness (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) with two of Instant Honesty.
There is also something else working along with it**. I’m not 100% sure yet, as it does seem like there might be some type of brain energizer going on. I wanted to talk, but I also wanted to get deep in conversation, not like rapport deep, but deeper on a level of intelligence. Almost like a stimulus working the intelligence angle through a combined effort of the emotional brain. So where as I am extremely conversational I am also feeling that the conversation needs to be about something valuable so as not to waste an iota of the molecule.** Now I am a big believer and faithful advocate of NFL football and my nygiants, but when the conversations came up, (God of all things NFL, nygiants, Big Blue and puppy dogs forgive me) I just couldn’t be bothered.
Recently I have experienced an inner-game growth where I really don’t care about beauty much anymore, but still struggle with not looking at beauty before other assets. It’s a habit I am trying to overcome. As my friend Eric says, beauty is common. I do struggle with this a bit, but tonight I really connected with the concept. I just didn’t care how hot a lady was. If she wasn’t on my wavelength it didn’t matter. It was as if I could look around the room at cerebral levels and pick out the ones I wanted to open rather than some chicks ass.
P107 needs some more trials and research. I’m even thinking of foregoing a Friday night of pick-up pheromones to continue the testing. I did not notice, or maybe I just didn’t care to notice, any effects on those around me.”
Brain battles itself over short-term rewards, long-term goals
Brain battles itself over short-term rewards, long-term goals
Main Category: Alcohol / Addiction / Illegal Drugs (Alcohol / Addiction / Illegal Drugs News from Medical News Today)
Article Date: 15 Oct 2004 - 0:00 PDT
You walk into a room and spy a plate of doughnuts dripping with chocolate frosting. But wait: You were saving your sweets allotment for a party later today. If it feels like one part of your brain is battling another, it probably is, according to a newly published study.
Researchers at four universities found two areas of the brain that appear to compete for control over behavior when a person attempts to balance near-term rewards with long-term goals. The research involved imaging people’s brains as they made choices between small but immediate rewards or larger awards that they would receive later. The study grew out of the emerging discipline of neuroeconomics, which investigates the mental and neural processes that drive economic decision-making.
The study was a collaboration between Jonathan Cohen and Samuel McClure at Princeton’s Center for the Study of Brain Mind and Behavior; David Laibson, professor of economics at Harvard University; and George Loewenstein, professor of economics and psychology at Carnegie Mellon University. Their study appears in the Oct. 15 issue of Science.
“This is part of a series of studies we’ve done that illustrate that we are rarely of one mind,” said Cohen, also a faculty member at the University of Pittsburgh. “We have different neural systems that evolved to solve different types of problems, and our behavior is dictated by the competition or cooperation between them.”
The researchers examined a much-studied economic dilemma in which consumers behave impatiently today but prefer/plan to act patiently in the future. For example, people who are offered the choice of $10 today or $11 tomorrow are likely choose to receive the lesser amount immediately. But if given a choice between $10 in one year or $11 in a year and a day, people often choose the higher, delayed amount.
In classic economic theory, this choice is irrational because people are inconsistent in their treatment of the day-long time delay. Until now, the cause of this pattern was unclear, with some arguing that the brain has a single decision-making process with a built-in inconsistency, and others, including the authors of the Science paper, arguing that the pattern results from the competing influence of two brain systems.
The researchers studied 14 Princeton University students who were asked to consider delayed reward problems while undergoing functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), a procedure that shows what parts of the brain are active at all times. The students were offered choices between Amazon.com gift certificates ranging from $5 to $40 in value and larger amounts that could be obtained only by waiting some period, from two weeks to six weeks.
The study showed that decisions involving the possibility of immediate reward activated parts of the brain influenced heavily by brain systems that are associated with emotion. In contrast, all the decisions the students made – whether short- or long-term – activated brain systems that are associated with abstract reasoning.
Most important, when students had the choice of an immediate reward but chose the delayed option, the calculating regions of their brains were more strongly activated than their emotion systems, whereas when they chose the immediate reward, the activity of the two areas was comparable, with a slight trend toward more activity in the emotion system.
The researchers concluded that impulsive choices or preferences for short-term rewards result from the emotion-related parts of the brain winning out over the abstract-reasoning parts. “There are two different brain systems and one of them kicks in as you get really proximate to the reward,” McClure said.
The finding supports the growing view among economists that psychological factors other than pure reasoning often drive people’s decisions.
“Our emotional brain has a hard time imagining the future, even though our logical brain clearly sees the future consequences of our current actions,” Laibson said. “Our emotional brain wants to max out the credit card, order dessert and smoke a cigarette. Our logical brain knows we should save for retirement, go for a jog and quit smoking. To understand why we feel internally conflicted, it will help to know how myopic and forward-looking brain systems value rewards and how these systems talk to one another.”
The findings also may cast light on other forms of impulsive behavior and drug addiction.
“Our results help explain how and why a wide range of situations that produce emotional reactions, such as the sight, touch or smell of a desirable object, often cause people to take impulsive actions that they later regret,” Loewenstein said. Such psychological cues are known to trigger dopamine-related circuits in the brain similar to the ones that responded to immediate rewards in the current study.
Concerning addiction, said Loewenstein, the findings help explain some aspects of the problem, such as why addicts become so focused on immediate gratification when they are craving a drug. The dopamine-related brain areas that dominated short-term choices among the study subjects also are known to be activated when addicts are craving drugs.
The researchers are now trying to pin down what kinds of rewards and how short a delay are needed to trigger the dopamine-related reaction. Their ultimate goal is to better understand how the emotion-related and calculating systems interact and to understand how the brain governs which system comes out victorious.
Contact: Steven Schultz
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