P106 P107

Getting caught up on my test reports :smiley: These are putatives not to be confused with mixes of the same number. Both smell like straight alcohol

Well I got these as (test samples not in store yet) a while back and I tested them but held off on reporting because I didn’t want to influence others.

P106 12.5 between 1 to 10 sprays over a period of a week. With and without other pheromones or mixes. Wore it to work at home to the store ect.

I gotta say I was disappointed, Got nothing no self effect, no reactions from others.

Now please dont get me wrong. Just because I didn’t see anything doesn’t mean others wont. Could be just me or maybe its more for men.

P107

12.5 Smells like alcohol

Again spent almost a week with it. Started with one spray worked up to 6 which is when I started to get some very mild vibe patterns

Did notice a calm centering feeling. Similar to acceptance. Sort of placid like cool calm water

Didn’t notice to much from others, people seemed content and calm but there was no reason not to be so it was hard to tell.

Tisha

I haven’t received anything “new” to test. The only freebie I’ve gotten was a full bottle of IS/B, and I’m not sure there’s much more “testing” I could do on that one! :smiley:

Does Visionary have a post somewhere with these tips, or are they scattered about? I’m not sure that I’m the best with putatives either, but I did just start getting some tentative good results with p83.

No he pops in the forum when we test and gives advice here and there which has been helpful.

One tip that really helped is to test the Putative of course by itself first then use it with TAF because TAF can help you notice things you otherwise wouldnt since it helps focus.

Another one which is basic but I learned from reading his famous google posts is to jot down in a notebook what ever your feeling or anything that can possibly be a reaction, no matter how odd. Your own self effects as well your mood and feelings when wearing it. Even just single words that comes to mind. After a few days of testing sometimes a pattern will emerge and then the flood gates open up and you can see more clearly when reactions occur.

I know its hard but I try to test them for a few days in a row without using any other pheromone. Yes I miss my Instant Sexiness but its the only way to know what its is doing and not confuse it with what another pheromone is doing. Then after a few days I start to combine it with other mixes or pheromones. Sometimes you can get a whole new reaction from a mix you presently wear.

You should really find his name in the forum and look at all his posts. You can do that from clicking on his name and looking at View all posts in his profile.

Tisha

It is possible to test new putatives with existing mixes, but certain elements are required first:

  1. Daily Mixes & Combinations - You first need to establish a consistent and known understanding of the effects of your daily mixes and/or combinations. Once you know what kind of results and effects you should be expecting, you can gauge the effects of new putatives by any changes or shifts in results, or better still, new results that occur.

  2. Reliable “Distractants” - You need to test your mixes with individuals who are very susceptible to pheromones and exhibit very noticeable responses on a consistent basis. Once you know what kind of results to expect from them with your regular daily mixes and/or combinations, you can again gauge any changes resulting from the use of a new putative. The best place for reliable distractants is at the work place, but caution needs to be exercised with regards to scent and sexual or OD effects.

Good observation skills are of course required to be able to notice any new changes that result from the deployment of a new putative. Like Tisha said, you will sometimes get a noticeably stronger reaction when using a putative with a mix, which should make detecting results much easier. Remember to keep an open mind and accept whatever happens as is (and try not to laugh at some of the crazy results :smiley:)!

Welcome back :slight_smile:

As I’ve reported…this method of testing has been the best way, for me, to evaluate the effects of these putatives. :wink:

I agree. It always helps to have “the susceptible ones” i.e. reliable quinea pigs…lol…to test on. :smiley:

Ya, 'cause it might not be, at all, what you’re expecting. If you’re not that observant to begin with it’s, often, hard to discern the reactions of others. Some folks need to practice/be taught how to be more aware. Studying body language helps…so does listening. Once they start paying attention…in the right way…seeing hits becomes almost second nature. :wink:

Well, Mr. Dancing Joker…it’s sure good to have you back. I’ll be hittin’ you up for some of thoses bewitching mixes! :smiley:

Bella

Holy Crap Dancing Joker LOL Its like having a pheromone celebrity respond I had to do a double take. Take notes girls :smiley:

Good goddess that would be the postmaster in my case. Well I will just have to take it for the team LOL

I agree and once you get used to reading body language it just gets easier. If your not observant or cant read body language just keep at it. Its like any other skill you need to practice.

Thanks for responding DJ Glad to see you back :smiley:

Tisha

Hey Tish, nice to see that you are working on maintaining your advanced user status! :stuck_out_tongue:

Hmm, I’ve never heard of the putatives before. Weren’t we at number 120+ already?? Anyway, as of now it doesn’t sound too promising…

Thanks Tisha you are kind. Some of the better tips on testing putatives from Visionary are pasted in below :stuck_out_tongue: …

Just chillin with P91 (Just chillin with P91)
Socrates (January 22, 2008):
“Yea thanks for the reports Tisha reps to you (even though you probably don’t need any more reps with the total you have )!

Regarding testing the putatives and even P91. An idea from here is to try wearing a typical daily mix say to a group get together at work or some other social event at home or work. So you might apply the typical mix say 1-2 hours before the event. Then 5 minutes before the event put on a hefty dose of P91 (say 60 mcg). Then you could really tell the difference that P91 made to how people were reacting to you! You probably already know this but my experience is that most of the putatives don’t last that long either (a few hours tops) so make sure that first hour after application is going to be eventful and people are gonna be exposed to the max with them …

I like to do that myself but unfortunately I have mostly ToGo bottles with low concentrations so I can only get a few of these ‘large dose putatives experiments’ per bottle …

-Visionary”

5 phero experiments YOU would like to see tried - #12 by Socrates (5 phero experiments YOU would like to see tried - #12 by Socrates)
Socrates (April 3, 2008):
“The kind of insights I would like to see from experiments are like those from posts pasted in below. Not just random experimenting but actually trying to find ways of using putative pheromones/MXs to do things we cannot do at the moment with our current mixes.

For example Tacitus said: “I have even imagined that P88 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) might be useful in therpeutic settings where those with low social awareness could be trained to read subtle shifts in emotional states and learn appropriate responses.”

Another example of a great insight resulting in ‘progress’ is the following from Capone:
"I think [P83 when added to a high A314 with added Instant Honesty mix] would be useful in certain enviroments where people must feel a connection between you and them and they do things for you because they want to mantain and not lose that connection and being happy with you. Though no phero is going to make nobody to spent a million dollars in a house if it is not needed, this could possibly make a difference.

In meetings/presentations, for example, I think people would do an applause because they don’t want to break the connection they think they have with you but, if the decision were to be made with a secret vote system (they can say anything without fear to lose empathism with you) it would not be too much advantage because people will know that there is no risk of getting you upset personally.

I like to imagine it like if you had some long years ago friend and you don’t want to dissapoint him doing something bad, or like if you had just met a beautiful girl and you feel a special connection that you don’t want to fuck (the connection, not the girl ) saying nonsenses, and you are worried about what you should do or say. It’s that kind or effect."…****”

What's in P99 and P81? - #5 by Socrates (What's in P99 and P81? - #5 by Socrates)
Socrates (May 11, 2008):
“…Yea and remember to not test them together so you know which one is getting which result. Also make sure you are in an environment with (preferably multiple) people interacting with you (say a lunch with a few friends) straight after you put on P81 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) or P99. Do not waste the molecules on just hanging out in class IMHO. Remember most of the putatives don’t reliably last for more than an hour on the skin so make the most of that first hour after a heavy application!

Looking forward to reading about your high dose putative findings man! It’s like you are going out there with a phero signature no Singaporean has gone with before…”

Well it wouldnt be right to ask people to do something I am not willing to do. :stuck_out_tongue: I held off on these for a while because between my knee and jaw I wasnt in the testing mindset. Plus I did want to influence anyone into not buying them but I did call in my results to steve so he knew I was having trouble with P106 at least.

There has been alot of new stuff going out for testing thats not in the store.

P106 P107 MX235 even TAB which when Charmedlife asked me about it I said it was soda as far I know LOL I had to get steve to come in and explain (snort)

I know they have a ton more new putatives they want tested.

Maybe this is a better alternative, send them out as test samples to a few people at a time and wait for the results to come in.

Tish

oo this topic is kind of old, but i actually just received p106 and p107 as samples today..

i put on 4 sprays of p106 at 10mcg (before i read your post) i think i got some hits, but im also a little unsure if its becuz of p106 or the nature of the girls who i was with..

i remember talking to my girls a lot, being chatty, silly and hyper.. but im not sure if it was because we were just talking about boys in general if u know what i mean..

i wouldnt have the time to test it for awhile now with the exam week coming up soon again, but i was just curious if u had the time to test it again?

<3 remmy

Hey, thats great remmy, I would wait till after your exams to so you can give it your full attention.

I used both bottles up with no real results to report. I even used them with TAF. P107 did give me a sort of calming feeling but no hits to report

Hopefully others will have better luck.

Tisha

I tried P106 today for the first time. I used 20mcg. From what little that has been written so far, I was wondering if I would notice anything at all. Well, I did. I am surprised there hasn’t been more positive comment on this one. I liked it a lot!

I was going out to run some errands. I had used no pheromones earlier in the day. I applied only the 20mcg of P106.

Before leaving home, I stopped to speak to my teenage son. I got a complete brain core-dump answering questions I hadn’t asked. It was the most he had said to me the whole day – all this while he was on the computer. Amazing. In retrospect, I realize that what he was talking about was relevant to what we were dealing with that morning. It wasn’t just a random dump of whatever was on his mind.

I went to the copy shop, made two copies and went to the counter to pay. The young (caucasian) lady was talking to another customer. I wondered if she would interrupt her obviously fairly involved conversation to take my quarter or if I’d have to wait. If I were wearing A314 version LS she’d stop and take my payment. If I were wearing MX173, she’d make me wait in spite of being awed by my alphaness. Which would it be with P106? She interrupted her conversation to ask me how many copies and immediately interrupted herself to ask how I was doing. (I had helped this woman out before when she had some problems.) I told her I was good, gave her the 25 cents for two copies and left.

Driving I noticed I was annoyed by the other drivers, but also calm about it – no pounding the steering wheel and screaming. I am usually either yelling profanities or am relaxed and chillin unfazed by the traffic. This was an interesting in between state. It was energizing but also calm. P74 gives me a seedy sensation and improves my alertness and visual focus. The P106 caused my visual field to be perhaps slightly less vivid. It energized without making me more or less alert.

I went to the tailor to pick up a suit. I had gotten this linen suit on sale, but it required a record amount of alterations. This man does good work and he is always busy. My suit looked great and I started pulling bills out of my wallet to pay the $185 (ouch). At $170 he stops me saying $170 is enough. I give this man a lot of business, and I’m sure he appreciates the cash, but he’s never done that before!

When I had dropped the the suit off the week before I was wearing P74 (no IO or IH). We barely spoke. There was nothing unfriendly about it. We’ve been though these fittings enough times there just wasn’t any need to say anything. That’s the thing about P74 that I haven’t noticed anyone else discussing: If you don’t wear any social pheromones with the P74, people are extremely cooperative and very quiet. Maybe that’s why men like it. P106 is not as “cool” as P74 and not as warm as alphanol. With the P106 the tailor was very atttentive and more chatty – but always on topic. As I left, he noted the weather was getting cooler and the next suit I brought in would have to be wool. This Korean man’s English is not real good and if I were wearing P74 he would not have found it necessary to make that comment. But since I was wearing P106 and that was what was on his mind regarding the business at hand, he had to say it. If I were wearing my usual combination of IO and IH, he would probably have told me how he was going back to Korea to visit relatives at Christmas or some other personal stuff (and charged me full price).

I stop at the local health food store to buy vitamins. The woman who works there is generally inattentive bordering on rude. I don’t know how they stay in business. I show her two empty bottles I want to replace. She is unusually helpful and chatty (but on topic). She has the Quercetin, but in a different brand. I buy it. She never tells me that her brand is just as good; rather, on her own initiative, she takes an interest in the Jarrow brand which I prefer. She starts to write it down, and I tell her she can keep my empty bottle, which she appreciates.

At Safeway the (African American) cashier fills the bags and hands them to me as I load the cart. This isn’t a big deal except feeling that teamwork quality with a big chain grocery store clerk is pretty unusual. There was that same attentive and helpful quality I’d been getting everwhere with the P106. And cheerful relevant conversation.

I pick up shirts at the dry cleaners. The Korean woman there always talks about the weather. I think her English is not so good and the weather is easy for her. Today for the first time ever, no weather! It fits the P106 pattern: attentive and helpful with on topic conversation. The weather has nothing to do with my laundry. Instead of weather she notes it’s today’s order and quickly finds it. * She’s saying something about appreciating my business as I leave.

In conclusion, after using it once, I think this is a very interesting pheromone. In a single word I would call it HELPFUL. I am not quite ready to compare it to A314 yet, but no one was disrespectful and you wouldn’t generally be so attentive and helpful to someone unless you thought he was somehow important. People are generally cheerful and attentive. Anything that they are thinking, which is relevant to the task at hand, comes right out their mouths. But nothing off topic. It is amazing that way. It is like a super charged and super focused betanol. It seems warmer and calmer than P74. And cooler and more focused than alphanol or betanol. I don’t recall any unusual amount of eye contact or avoidance of it. I don’t recall anyone calling me sir. *

At 20mcg it was smooth and pleasant with no harsh edges or negative side-effects. I felt surprisingly comfortable without my usual A314 and nols. If I were trying to match its effects using other pheromones I think P74 with IH might be close. A more complex mix would be A314(2) + TAAoil(1) + IH(2) + P74(10mcg) + TAH(3.75mcg). One togo bottle is not going to be enough of this one. This P106 is defintely interesting.**

I was spending some time with a lady and I was wearing a number of pheromones including Instant Honesty oil (“extreme version”). She was unusually open and honest with me about several issues where she had previously avoided candor. Before going to dinner I added some P106.

This was a valuable test because it allowed me to gage the difference between the Instant Honesty and P106 which I previously referred to as “super focused betanol.” So what changed with the P106?

I noticed our voice tones changed slightly toward that of a college professor lecturing. We talked incessantly about the menu, the food and the wine. And after it arrived we analysed the quality of the fare, how rare the meat was, how long the wine bottle had been open, etc. This through dessert, the strange name of the chocolate item, the flavors of the ice cream. This was not uncomfortable, but it was probably less comfortable than previous to the P106. I have nothing to compare the waiter to as I haven’t seen him before or since, but the service was impeccable. The last time I had dinner with this woman, the service was awful, but our conversation was much more personal and enjoyable.

My conclusion is that Instant Honesty is better for social and romantic situations as the conversation is more personal, emotional, spontaneous and wide-ranging in nature. P106 is better for business, getting things done. It is tightly directed toward the task at hand.