Skeptical and new to pheros

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Hello, I am 34 years old and male. I am in commercial funding and real estate consulting in Chicago and travel and meet with clients over the U.S. and am always looking for subtle ways to add to my seduction skills for sales as well as for other areas in life.

I am skeptical about synthetic pheromones although I have perused the posts here and on other forums and pages for several weeks in making the ultimate decision to register and perhaps make an order that I might finally try the products.

A little bit more about myself. Others tell me I am very deep once engaged and often appear intimidating at first meeting. I am large built 6ft and 275lbs though I carry it as well as one might. I am as I call it an extroverted introvert which means that I observe before engaging and engage only when I feel comfortable. Being introverted I often feel in power situations or when I am engaged socially with females that my energy and social skills wain quickly as I social interactions just drain me rapidly. I would like to project confidence and control in my interactions though recognizing that I am not so called “alpha”.

With females I would like to augment what I feel are strong natural sexual pheromones with the social pheromones that will affect myself as well as the intended receiver. I am attracted to younger females and they often assume I am 8-10 years younger than I am so I would like to know what works best with women in their twenties and thirties. I tend to project the “father figure” persona to attract younger women but not sure this is the best for long term or not. I would rather let them know upfront what I want which at this time is highly sexualized interactions that satisfy my high libido.

I wonder if for my first order I should just order a variety of socials as I feel that their efficacy would be the best proof for me as I am naturally anxious and uptight engaging in social situations. I am giving myself a birthday present and going on vacation to a resort area. I think a variety might give me the ability to test in a highly relaxed social area where I can still feel comfortable. I hope that the feedback and testimonials here are real and that I can also verify with my own experiences.

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Welcome to Pherotalk! :slight_smile:

Don’t worry - most of us were very sceptical to begin with but pretty soon found what works for us. :slight_smile:

AD does not go in for the grand claims and gross oversell of other phero companies and are about the best when it comes to quality and customer service. If you don’t get results from the consumer line, their refund policy is excellent so you won’t lose out. Experimental products are different of course but that is the accepted nature of things.

So far, your choice of socials is good, as the appearance and personality you describe is not one that would be greatly helped by the strong none or heavy status pheros, which can intimidate, appear standoffish or make you seem even more imposing.

Although after saying all that, A314 in oil is a phero that could be very helpful in your job as its trust and status impression is so good - but you can try that later if you are convinced! :wink:

IG however is much more suitable in social/dating scenarios as it is lighter and far more social but still smooth/suave with bags of status.

IO - is another good social, mainly alphanol. Light/bubbly/chatty/friendly - it will help take the edge of your imposing nature, so making it easier to approach and be more approachable. Great for meeting people and even loosening your own tongue.

IH - mainly betanol - Promotes deeper conversation and closeness/bonding feelings. May also be very useful at work and great for getting to know someone better.

Instant Shine - About the most all-round of ADs products and one that complements so many others - Happy/feelgood and socially confident. Great in combo with IO or IH and when used with Ammo makes for one of the best basic attraction mixes.

Ammo - You should try this even though it is a sexual. Ammo is a balanced mix of equal parts none, rone and nol which projects a sexy/social/masculine/confident feel that goes down well in many settings. If you do the basic legwork to find your effective dose, you won’t overpower or appear daunting/aggressive/too serious/too horny with this one.

Do remember that self effects are variable with pheros - you can get marked responses or they may not affect you much at all. Also that phero self effects are most pronounced when you start using them and some will lessen substantially with time and it is the same with your subjects - Some will respond very strongly whilst other will indeed have no response at all - Most will respond on a range inbetween. Social/situational factors also affect phero response and put simply, no phero will make anyone do something they don’t want to in a place where they don’t want to do it. Your personality and the environment are still vital factors here.

As you are off to a resort, I would suggest you search out some of the past threads on pheros in hot climates and/or pheros at the beach. There are a few steps you may need to preserve effectiveness/diffusion and mones don’t do very well in pools or seawater - maybe better keep them to the bars and party time at night? :slight_smile:

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Yes, I’d agree that most were on a varying skeptical scale when they first start out with mones. I was, I’d guess, middle of the road skeptical, but willing to give it a shot. I document my humble mone beginnings on the link on my sig below, amazing in a bottle.

I do like mobo’s descriptions of mones and I’d recommend you keep in mind that mones won’t get others to go against their free will. There are limits on the mones and their influence that you will need to be aware of when using them. The link, Intro to Mones and how to know what are hits will give you a good primer on mones.

Wish you well in your real estate ‘influencing’ ! ! ! :smiley:

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Welcome to Pherotalk…you’re definitely on the right track being here, it’s the best pheromone community around. It’s good that you’ve begun reading and understanding exactly what pheromones are beneficial for. I was the same as you at first, very skeptical of pheromones. Like you I did a lot of research and decided it was worth the investment to give them a shot.

You and I are about the same age, and I am also more prone to dating younger women. I’m 33 and the last 6 women I’ve dated have been between 22-26. I’m usually told I look like I’m in my mid 20’s, so I guess that’s why I attract that age group of women. I can be somewhat shy in terms of approaching and starting conversations with girls. Even though I’m good looking and have a great body, I’ve always been hesitant to approach random women. For me, Pheromones seem to have broken down those barriers for me. I feel like they make me a more approachable person, and my confidence is now that I have less of an aversion toward approaching random women. Pheromones won’t land the woman for you, but it helps in breaking those imaginary barriers down and giving you the extra confidence.

When I started I went with Ammo and IS, and today this is my go to combo and the base for new mixes. I’m also a big fan of IH, IO and TUTH(mostly for latina women). A314 and P83 are new to my arsenal, and early testing leads me to believe they will be my new favorites. Keep reading here and learn as much as you can. It’s a great place with very helpful members. Good luck and welcome again.

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

What you need to order are Ammo, A314 and IH.

A314 and IH are my favorite work combination. A314 will give you the confident alpha leader vibe you need in the business world. But it can come across as a little strong to people who may not be so alpha, both male and female. To offset that i use Ih with it. IH generaqtes feelings of trust and connection. And people open up to you as a result of that trust.

For the evenings just reapply a little A314 and add the Ammo. Now you have addded sexy into the successful alpha leader vibe. There is a thread in my signature block that talks about that combination. read it and see what you think.

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Welcome Jiva,

I think you are right for starting with the socials as I usually inform people that this is a great place to start and never under estimate the power of the social products especially when it comes to attraction.

Good luck with these.

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