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I doubt that I am consistent enough to actually make this worthy of the title “journal” but I figured I may as well have a place to collect my observations on all these new compounds I’m going to be investigating.

So I received TAA today via FedEx. After getting out of the shower I applied a 7.5 mcg spray to my chest. I have heard of people saying it makes them smile, makes people around them happy, etc…I don’t know that it necessarily makes me smile exactly, but it makes me feel somewhat similar to how I would feel if I were to smoke a small amount of marijuana, say 2-4 hits. Except without the cloudiness of thought. So…I can completely see why it would have the effect on people that has been reported. Very nice. Times like this I wish I had an fMRI so I could see what my brain was doing - but who am I kidding I always wish I had an fMRI because I’m a giant nerd.

With my order I also received a little sample bottle of P130. Smells like a combination of neroli and…well, a little like female ladyparts. I’m interested in trying this out at some point but I’m going to give TAA a few days by itself before I try anything else, so that I can have a better idea of its effects. Hmmm, now I have to go find a social situation to put myself into.

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Welcome to PheroTalk and nice first report!

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Thanks! Two further observations before I head out into the world…
(1) I’m feeling an ever-so-slight flushing from this (TAA). Not at all unpleasant, but interesting, as if I had been exercising earlier or had a lot of vitamin b12.

(2) Not really surprising, but the grapefruit scent seems likely to be synthetic. At least, when I use grapefruit essential oils in my DIY cologne they don’t have anything near this kind of sillage. But I’m not complaining.

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Well, not a lot of social interaction but I can say that from self-effects it works well. I found myself being a little flirty with the girl at the gas station, definitely kind of unusual. And my friend who I was hanging out with was in unusually high spirits - he’s been very down lately due to work issues so this is highly irregular. More investigative work is warranted, I’m going to a happy hour tomorrow for a friend so maybe this will be a good venue.

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I was having a hard time determining results with the TAA by itself, because I have a consistent blend of pheromones that I apply more often than not after blending various products from the other site I had already been getting products from. I don’t apply to my skin very much because I make my own cologne using essential oils and ethanol, which makes for exactly the smell I want but doesn’t spread much. (No sillage, as I said earlier)

In any event, I went with my usual blend, which is high in beta -nol and NPA (-none and -rone, I believe?) with a small amount of A1. And then a highly diluted dab of some copulin-heavy product to the tip of my nose, because it makes me much calmer and friendlier. To this I added 2 sprays of the 7.5mcg TAA, with the grapefruit scent and wider scent spread. Very nice, that. I’ve really got to look into synthetics and perfumer’s alcohol - I think it could make a significant difference in the things I already had let alone effects of new products altogether.

I was going to hang out with a few friends, pretty low-key but there’s a friend I’m slowly flirting with there. She (henceforth Lady A) and I both have other concerns from time to time so there’s not exactly a rush on that, no pressure to snatch her up before someone else gets there as we have…similar sensibilities.

Upon arrival Lady A reaches out to me to hug her, something we usually do when leaving but not ordinarily upon arrival. Later a friend of hers drops by whom I’ve never before met, (Lady B) she has had a few drinks. She proceeds to tell us all sorts of things about her personal life, and invites us over to her apt before realizing that she can’t do that. Meanwhile she is telling Lady A what a wonderful friend she is for doing her a favor, and unconsciously sitting well within my personal space. She also asked me if I was Jewish, to which I replied that I wasn’t but I get that a lot. I’m not very good at identifying that quality myself but I believe she herself was? That seems to be the usual demographic that asks me that question. As she was leaving she made it a point to mention my name, and that it was nice meeting me, etc. Lots of little…I wouldn’t call them IOI’s exactly but there was a comfort level and a lightly sexual flirty vibe. A sense of intimacy and familiarity that didn’t belong in the situation exactly.

How does this differ from the exact same blend without TAA? The difference is VAST. It makes a huge difference. My mix before this was all power, no transmission. The raw masculinity was there, no doubt about it and perhaps in far too strong a presence. And the beta -nol promoted intimacy, I found people being friendly and sharing surprisingly personal things at times, but…they didn’t link, and they didn’t move. TAA fit neatly into place in the existing blend I was working with, like it was the missing piece of a machine.

Of course, bear in mind that my mood is also elevated from the blend right now…so if I seem overly effusive and excited over scant results, you’re also right. I look at it like this, however: I’m trying to create a mood to target an audience. I know the common traits of the people who have certain things in common with myself, compatible people. The nice thing is that I get strong self-effects and am able to get a lot of feedback from that. As far as self-effects go I’ve generated the exact mood I am trying to accomplish. I suspect that this is similar to the effects on Lady B this evening but of course I can’t be certain. Still, it’s certainly encouraging.

Oh and details on the mood? Comfortable, relaxed, capable, and friendly. That “hammock on the beach, nothing to do and nowhere to go with a nice breeze” sensation.
I’m interested to see further results.

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Oh yes, additional observations. I noticed it made people pay more attention to me a little bit more, but also more likely to interrupt. Before everyone who did pay attention when I spoke hung on everything I said to the point of making me uncomfortable, interfering with the flow of conversation altogether really. This seemed to blunt that but spread the effect around a little, as well.

Another interesting observation - TAA (or possibly the grapefruit scent) has had some appetite suppressant effects on me. But it’s mild and could well just be that the grapefruit is a nasal palate cleanser.

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Well, after three or so days of experimenting with TAA, I think that I’m able to conclude a few things. I can definitely see why the product that it’s the central molecule for is called “Instant Shine” (a product I’m awaiting a bottle of as we speak - I’m excited!). In a not-at-all-literal way, it seemed to put the spotlight on me a little bit more, along with making everyone around me slightly giggle-y and in a better mood. I haven’t had a chance to do too much with it in terms of putting myself into social environments, but between self-effects and the few social interactions I’ve had, it’s a definite winner. I’m going to try to post real results as soon as I’m in a proper situation to generate them.

So I did a little reading on P130 (I know, I know, you’re trying to get unbiased reporting here - but I’m trying not to have angry people randomly accost me for no reason, which has happened before with pheros. I’ll try to suspend foreknowledge beyond assuring myself of that.) and I’m really excited to see what it does! Except I notice it’s not available in the store at the moment…uh-oh, I hope it doesn’t turn out to be my favorite thing ever. Actually I do, but I hope it then also becomes available.

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Tonight I gave myself a good scrubbing and went out once more with only TAA and a tiny, tiny amount of my regular mix. Hanging out with friends, I noticed that the entire social dynamic felt quite different than I’ve become used to. Everyone was being playful and social. Hits there came no specific ones - not that I was expecting any from that combination - but I noticed myself being more polite & accommodating as was everyone.

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Okay, so tonight I went to hand out with some friends, playing cards. After reading some various posts regarding evaporation rates, sillage, etc, I decided to put a layer of lotion on my forearms, let it dry, apply my diy fragrance, let it dry, then apply my regular -none and b -nol heavy blend, a moderate amount (one I don’t have numbers for unfortunately, but I’m used to the reactions I get from it so it’s kind of my new baseline at the moment).

On top of this, I applied two sprays of the 7.5mcg TAA, right before I went into my friends’ place. Everyone was friendly and…blunt? No one was being rude or uptight, but no one was keeping their opinions to themselves, either. Thinking I should really tone down the -none in my mix. The girl in our card playing group was crazy competitive, said she was having PMS but after a little while of being around me (my mix has a small amount of A1 in it) she was smiling and less grumpy. Still a little bit, though - I often dab a little tiny bit of diluted copulin-containing products to my nose when I go out. Most girls don’t react to that low a level but she can get kinda territorial at times when I do that. After the TAA faded, everyone shut down (crashed) and we were all far less social. People lost interest in the card game, and eventually we all drifted to watching TV. I hope to see more of this stealth diffusion development people are talking about, as from what I hear the odors are subtle enough that I could reapply without smelling strongly of citrus or the like for a little while after.

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Another odd effect here. My cat, who is usually indifferent or pestering me for food when I’m wearing my regular mix, came in and made a purring noise then sat perfectly still and let me pet her for approximately 10 minutes. This is highly out of character, and I had just applied alcohol gel to the area where I had sprayed TAA much earlier. Hard to say, she usually doesn’t respond to pheromones very much when I’m wearing them but will always go to the pheromone-sprayed shirt after I’ve worn it all night and the effects (at least on humans) have faded completely as far as I can tell.

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Received my second order today, because I am not patient enough to wait and see how the things I have go. So now I have TAA, TAL, TAH, and P130. (And Instant Shine) All right, I can tell I’m going to have to do some actual genuine research here so that I can provide better reports. While I understand perfectly the difference between my baseline daily mix with or without new additions, I also understand that it isn’t helping provide useful feedback and research information for our esteemed suppliers. And I definitely want to assist & encourage that.

Later this week, I’m going to try to test one or another individual molecule. I’m actually interested in trying TAH or TAL at low concentration by itself, to see what sort of weird reactions I get.

Observations on TAA thus far - two sprays of 7.5mcg seems to be just over the edge for me. It’s slightly too much, but only slightly. I notice it makes me and others energetic (until it wears off of course) and also kind of pulls me back into my own head. Makes me think, makes me a little more focused, makes me get lost in abstract thought - and also makes me somewhat less emotional? Not that my emotions are blunted or anything, just that I tend to veer off into detached reasoning. I suspect this isn’t entirely the TAA but rather a result of personal habits of thought being triggered by it. It tends to make me more excited, and the people around me as well. For certain definitions of the term, this definitely is the molecule for “arousal”. Just not necessarily sexual. :slight_smile:

So 15mcg seems to be too much TAA for me, but I suspect around 10-12 would probably be just fine. In any event, I’m putting that away for a little in favor of Instant Shine - I’m interested in seeing if I can really determine a difference, how significant I think it is, and what I think it is. TAH and TAL are going to be far more complicated to use I imagine, but I have a gut feeling they’re going to be quite useful if I can get them to the right dilution.

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Interesting observations on the TAA, I see similar effects and it works for me in a low dose like 5-10mcg. What made you decide to purchase TAH and TAL?

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Oh and after the TAA wears off there is an ever-so-slight anhedonia that kicks in. Mild, just…nothing sounds that exciting, don’t really feel like doing anything, etc. I suspect that this is also a function of applying too much of it. I don’t end up feeling sad, just “meh”. This is probably the crash people have spoken of in the past.

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Well for one, I’m curious about all the Experimones and putatives. I’ve been using LS products for years and years (I realized a little while ago that I’ve been reading Gegogi’s posts for so long now that he’s kind of a celebrity to me) and so I have a fair bit of -none, -rone, a -nol and b-nol products to mix and blend. It will be a little while before I need to purchase more of any of those. But why TAL and TAH specifically? There are a few reasons.

I have been dabbing a tiny bit of diluted copulins on the tip of my nose as a daily mood elevator. The concentration has to be pretty low indeed but I have one friend who is apparently very sensitive to them and she gets…well, highly alpha female is the diplomatic way of putting it. As I’m spending time around her, I needed some alternatives there. Another thing is that, historically, I tend to get along far better with bisexual women than straight women. This isn’t me being a guy seeking out bisexual women to fulfill some sort of fantasy involving threesomes - in fact it doesn’t always come up until after I’ve gotten involved with them - but I’d say about 70% of the women I have dated have fallen into that camp. It makes things more complicated but I appreciate the personality traits that a little more androgyny and independence seem to engender. So…why TAH & TAL? I’m not trying to mask my sexual signature or anything like that, but I am trying to indicate a certain amount of androgyny. Not to the point of actual gender confusion, of course. Personality wise I can act congruent with this all day long easily. Physically I am clearly male, relatively deep-voiced and broad-shouldered with a somewhat high natural -rone level.

I really like the effects of the male pheromones, -none -rone et all, but they tend to have a side effect of pushing me further away from my most effective part of that spectrum, and into a territory of maleness that confuses me and the people who respond to me. Hmmm, I don’t know if this entirely makes sense. Basically, I’m not trying to attract a new group of people necessarily - I’m just trying to be more attractive to the people I’m already attracting.

Besides that, I make my own fragrances as a hobby, and I have a couple of female friends whose holiday bottle of fragrance may contain a spritz or two of one of them this year. :smiley:

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But best of all, even if they don’t work for my goals I don’t really consider them wasted because SCIENCE! :smiley:

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I’m really looking forward to your results - I have tested TAH and TAL for a while, and it’s a hard one to figure out, as each dosage/concentration shows different effects, I use it at the moment in clubs/dates to attract and arouse females, to make them drop their guard (TAH) and increase their confidence (TAL) - a very low dose of both with Androstenone gives this effect - however without Androstenone it does something else - very interesting - and you can use a higher dose.

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OK, you have definitely piqued my interest. So it does something very interesting eh? I’m not going to follow up on that until I’ve had an opportunity to do independent testing without clouding my perceptions of events too much, but after a few runs I would really like to know what you’re referring to. :smiley:

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I’m not going to mention anything, as I don’t want to spoil it for you LOL. IMO these molecules are very underrated in the men’s section of the forum and it would be nice to see a different perspective from somebody else with good observational skills!

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Awesome! And thanks for the compliment. Nice to know all that training in ethnography is good for something. :smiley:

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Well, I think I’ve come closer to duplicating my natural signature than ever before, thanks to all these new products. That’s fantastic! Now, I just have to reverse-engineer the “blend” that I had made using various products from LS. I’m pretty sure I can do that given time and appropriate use of funds. But the important thing is, this frees me up to do some genuine single-molecule experimenting, which is both useful to me and everyone else. Going to take a couple of days off of everything and then start a testing protocol on one of these. I have these little samples of P130. Maybe that?

On a related but unrelated note, I have been surveying people’s responses to various possible additions to my homemade fragrance and got the funniest response to one of them ever: “This smells like the nicest gasoline I’ve ever smelled”. Damn, I don’t think I’ll be using that particular essential oil in the future.