stand alone vs. combos

whats better stand alone or combo pheromones. i have heard alot about a product called pheroproof and how it was one of the best and they never made it again, and then i have heard that people have came up with the after thoughts of useing ammo + tuth+ is and it acts just the same. any thoughts on this? and any thoughts on what pheroproofs uses were best for? thanks

It depends on quite a number of factors really.

Have you given your age? Ammo & TUTH together is a fairly potent none signal that may be too much for a younger guy & girl but fine on someone and their targets a few years older.

It also depends on enviroment and again, a strong none signature may not go down well for someone looking to attract at work or in a sedate social environment but may be just right for drinking & dancing in a club.

One of the big advantages of ammo is that it is so adaptable - you can wear it on its own for one environment, then steer it with a social as the mood changes, then add TUTH etc as the sexual interaction increases. :slight_smile:

well as a 29 yr old male i was just curious. i only heard such good raves about pherproof and this being the closest thing to it. what i am really looking for is a special combo that would attract a age group of 18 - say 32, 33 maybe. something that it wouldnt matter if she was the most unattractive or a famous movie star. something that comes out and grabs them out of a crowd and says i am the only one in the room. do you know of anything, combos or stand alones

I’d probably break that into 18-25, then 25-33.

For the younger end, I would expect the socials and a small amount of ammo to be most effective - there are exceptions but you have to judge at the time. Save the TUTH for when they are very close to the bedroom or you are sexually active.

Don’t worry about these pheros being termed social, a woman’s attraction is a lot more than just getting horny. You need to stimulate feelings across the board and IME, socials are very effective here.

With the older ones, I would expect them to be more comfortable with a stronger none sig to be more effective and by this age, the ststus/alpha pheros like A314 are really coming into their own.

Also be aware that less is very often more with pheros and it can be counterproductive to mix too many and confuse/overload our subjects. While it is fun to try and tailor a mix to suit a subject/our personality, a single, simple and direct sig can be just as effective.

thanks for all your help today! i plan on asking more ? in the near future, so its good to have some people who know alot about this stuff. thanks again.

Thanks - There are plenty who are far more experienced than I here. I hope they will be chipping-in their ideas soon. Which may be totally different to mine of course! :o :smiley:

Phero use for me lately have been tactical approaches into specific theories I’m testing out. Besides age, there are also factors that would involve pheromone use that are too detailed (and might not even be accurate) for me to explain here. The best advice I can give you is to start with the feel good pheromones.

I like AMMO period, I’ve used that over and over again when I first started and it has been great with initial attraction. I can go out with 2x of ammo and be fine and have great interactions. Heck I can go out with Instant Shine and be fine with it. The key is you have to be a confident person regardless of what mones you wear as a standalone or a combo. Be fun, laugh, enjoy and it won’t matter what you wear. Sometimes you won’t even need to wear at all.

At the second stage of the usage, after initial attraction, I like to target specifically what to use based on the female. If she’s an alpha type that’s outgoing and confident, I could always go with A314 and add some Instant Honesty and TUTH, or Instant Shine, whatever direction I feel it should go at that juncture. What if the girl is shy, I would use some IG, IO, and some IS and see where that went. It all depends on what you’re trying to do or what stage this interaction is in.

Remember Attraction -> Comfort ->Seduction.

For your purposes, go with AMMO first, and then maybe some IS and you’re good.

Hi just thought I’d share as it’s an interesting question.I used to get hits from APC stand alone when I tried it 8 years ago which was my first phero product but the stuff available nowadays is so much better and useful. Back then it was all about none and a lot of people slathered it on and overdosed massively for experimentation purposes. I myself have used have used a quarter bottle of npa in one application to see weird and useless reactions. One lady started attacking me with her butt like a sumo wrestler and other several strange things,including fights and people just being downright nasty so it was mostly negative with high androstenone, but since then some other pheromones became available and there are some powerful mixes out there. I’m certain that I repelled more people than I attracted. I was 21 or 22 at that time so maybe the none was too much for me.

I used to slather on none and didn’t understand why people were acting like they’re standing infront Hannibal lecter instead of Tom cruise or someone like that. While I got an occasional hit here and there from much older ladies, I wasn’t satisfied with none itself. The premade mixes that I love from androtics are way better than any other than just one ingredient. They have helped be become more social and get involved in some wonderful relationshops with some girls who sad to say wouldn’t have noticed me as much without. Sometimes it’s too easy like some people with awesome personal combos already know.

I love the following mixes from androtics: Ammo 1 or 2x, Taa (which is a hybrid of two molecules if I recall correctly), beta androstenol (instant honesty), instant gentleman and last but not least A314 which proved how androsterone can be very useful in helping project status and give distinction to a mix. A314 is really something and by far my favourite. I hope to stock up on that when I get a chance. Anyway mixes are definitely better because it provides a spectrum of different attributes while complementing and balancing each other. Right now I’m trying to incorporate and figure out p74 and p83 and we will see how it goes. The only challenge is to find the correct mix for your body chemistry. I’m still learning but now I know what most pheromones will do in which kind of scenario.

P.S I also experimented massively with alpha androstenol but all I got from that was that people were asking me if I was ok or thinking that I’m weak in someway and younger than I look, many times it put me right to sleep but when I added taa to alpha androstenol, it gave me more energy and everyone was super hyper social and cheerful. so mixes are definitely better for me personally.
Peace and gl.
Crash~