Ok so tomorrow I am going to the strip club,I have Turn up the Heat and Instant Female magic,I am a 28 year old white male,how many sprays of each should I wear if I just want the dancers to be more touchy/feely with me and give better lap dances?
At your age and in a strip club, I think you can safely get away with 4 or 5 sprays of each.
Although, if you are going during the day when it’s less crowded, you might scale back to 3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat, and add more as desired.
In that type of environment, there’s likely to be very high levels of testosterone, elevated androstenone signitures and likely even copulins floating around from the girls. Therefore, you will be able to get away with using more Androstenone than would normally be acceptable.
Have fun, and make sure to come back and tell us about it. 
Remember she’s only there for the money and would rather be somewhere else. Probably needs to support a kid or two 'cause her loser old man ran off. No matter how hot you look or smell, the fastest way to better service is to tip her generously. Mones won’t faze a real pro. She’s seen and done it all. However if you’re a good tipper and all moned up, she’ll remember you fondly next time around, and will be a little more friendly and work harder to get you hot and open your wallet wider.
Well, I guess I’m gonna be in disagreement with what has be posted so far. When I have time I’m gonna make a long post on strip clubs.
I would be very cautious about using much androstenone. Partially it is because, as a blood type O, I always have to be cautious with it and partially because, as Gegogi notes, the dancers aren’t there because they’re motivated to find a hot man.
First, greentea, you have to decide what you want. When I first started using (other than androstenone) pheromones at strip clubs I was stunned at how friendly the ladies and even the bouncers became. I was one of those guys that I’d always envied. All the girls would crowd around me. And, of course, they’d want me to buy them (usually expensive) drinks and they’d just yak my ears off. I no longer got to watch the performance. I was too tied up talking to a woman sitting next to me to be able to watch the girls dancing naked in front of me. I could have stayed home if all I wanted was relentless, boring conversation. So be careful what you wish for!
Wearing heavy androstenone pheromones backed off the talkers, but it wasn’t all that different from wearing no pheromones at all.
When I wore A314, I was at first disappointed at how the girls seemed to ignore me. But then a really beautiful girl was dancing in front of me and she couldn’t get her eyes off me and she got very, uh, immodest. This was a new girl who had never seen me before and had no idea whether I was a good tipper. After a couple of hours there was a clear pattern. The most beautiful girl in the place was most aggressive about seeking my attention. The second most beautiful was second most aggressive. The third most was third. All the others apparently considered themselves unworthy and pretty much ignored me. I’ve only worn A314 that once, so there is more research to be done. I force myself to go to strip clubs for the sake of science.
I am not as cynical as Gegogi. Sure, money can have a major impact on how you are treated, but exotic dancers are people, too. Many of them crave attention and sincere affection as much as money. Of these many crave it from men as much or more than from women. Of course, there are always a couple of girls who do their best dancing when another woman is watching. There’s pretty much no hope with them. When I was was wearing SOE and LT to strip clubs the girls would crowd around me even when there were better tippers than me being ignored. I also get much better treatment when I wear a suit and tie. I could tip twice as much in jeans and a tshirt get get less positive attention than wearing a suit and tipping less. Gegogi says, “No matter how hot you look or smell, the fastest way to better service is to tip her generously. pheromones won’t faze a real pro. She’s seen and done it all.” That may be accurate for some high scale clubs. Most the places I’ve gone to the girls are mainly college students, single mothers, lesbian horn dogs and insatiable exhibitionists. They are vulnerable to the same emotions as the rest of us, if not more so.
I haven’t experimented with IFW yet, but I’m guessing you’d want to emphasize that over TUTH. The girl’s already motivated because that’s her job. You just want to make her comfortable with you.
Do let us know what happens, greentea.
just offer her half-off the price if you can give her a lap dance next
I don’t think I’m cynical! I was just giving him a reality check. Actually I was at Club Fem Nu in Honolulu twice this past week. I’ve known many of the dancers for years, even dated several of them (major mistake and I’m still licking my wounds from the last one). A couple have even been my students! Money is the main reason they’re dancing but some are responsive and interested if you’re half way attractive and nice to them. Some are even loney and starved for a willing ear. But not most. Guys better than you game them every night.
I must say I agree 100% with your analysis of pheromone use in the club as my experiences have been very similar. I used to go in soaked in Scent of Eros and girls would basically drop in front of me and yak endlessly. I’d much rather watch them surrender their G-string, not tell me about their 13 cats, show me pictures of their kids or complain about pervs. And, once you’re friends with them, you don’t get a very good show. In fact they seem a little embarrassed about the whole thing…
Couldn’t agree with you more.
While I am not looking for any LTR with a stripper,not even a STR lol but I think everyone has to realize that they are people just like anyone else,yes they are there to make a living but they also have emotions just like the rest of us and can just as easily fall for someone as a girl you meet at a coffee shop.
OK, now let me expound a little more. I have also known and dated many dancers. I even married one! The last one I dated was in one of my earlier avatars. The vast majority of these girls have serious issues, such as, coming from broken homes, drug addictions, alcoholism, or abusive boyfriends (if they even like men), many are either lesbians or bi-sexual. A good number of those girls cannot get on stage without the use of drugs or alcohol.
After my second marriage ended (not to the stripper), I figured that I couldn’t do any worse and started frequenting a strip club. This was all long before discovering pheromones.
I will agree with Warren in saying that they crave attention and sometimes even affection, but will disagee on the reasons: Most dancers have low self-esteem, and the attention jusifies, at least a little, in thier minds that they are ok and that stripping isn’t such a bad thing.
In the strip club I was the decent non-pervert guy. I.e., not learing at them on stage, not trying to get touchy-feely with them, and not getting lap dances everytime they would ask. I would tip them when they did dance, and tip them well, but I wouldn’t stand by the stage learing at them.
I got to know every girl there, by their real names. I had all their phone numbers and they had mine, and I would get at least a couple of calls a day from the girls, either wanting me to come to the club, or sometimes , if they weren’t working, to see if I wanted to go do something with them.
If you make them believe that you’re interested in them as a person and not just as a sex object, oftentimes they will want to get you aroused and try even harder. Try letting a dancer sit with you and when she asks you if you want a lap dance, which usually happens in the first 2 or 3 minutes, tell them no - that you’d rather get to know them for who they are and not what they look like, then tell them that you know that they are there to make money though and pay them for the lap dance anyway. The next time she asks if you want a dance, which she will, you are likely to get a much hotter dance than you otherwise would have.
As Warren and Gegogi said, many dancers are pros and are not going to respond to anything. There are also the ones that have also developed an attitude that its ok to lie to get men to give them money, and the end justifies the means. I have heard some stories that were so unbelievable you almost had to believe them.
Gegogi was right in saying “Guys better than you game them every night.” And, for the most part I’ve stopped going to strip clubs entirely. However, every now and then, if I start getting a bit depressed and feeling like I’m off on my dating game, I’ll go to a strip club. And, while I may drop a couple hundered bucks, I can usually end up with a phone number, a date, or taking a girl home with me. Which of course ends as Gegogi said: “major mistake and I’m still licking my wounds from the last one”
Of course, but not nearly as likely! They mainly wanta tease you good and get ya to buy them a $300 champagne and give ya a hand job or BJ in the back-room. But , yeah, my last GF was a stripper and I managed to charm her. Too bad her husband showed up 2 months later. But really coffee shop girls are a better bet.
I’mma have to agree wholeheartedly here. Strippers are… oddball. If you’re gunning for a ONS, just pay for mileage. It’s a lot easier that way, but do NOT, and I cannot stress this enough, do NOT go in there looking for some kind of meaningful relationship.
-D4
Yep! I’ll vouch for that. I’m a little hard headed though, and it took marrying a stripper, then dating a bunch more, before finally realizing that when you play with fire, your gonna get burned!
GreenTea,
Don’t worry about it…a few sprays of Ammo will do you right. Do it and post back. Don’t go overboard just stick w/ the Ammo and you’ll do great.
Just got back from Feme nu. Had a great time. Even got some honey on my nose. Soaked in A314 and well pickled.
Yo, Mark you’re a pimp man. 
Nope, I was actually more of a hard headed idiot. But, slowly but surely I learned my lesson.
I probably burned through a good $20,000 in 5 months, and in the end had nothing to show for it. I had a lot of fun and got laid a lot, but really it wasn’t any different than buying hookers, except that hookers would have been a sure thing.
I think it’s supposed to work the other way around for pimps, aint it? 
and a hooker would have been alot cheaper
YEP!!!
Don’t think that I could ever bring myself to actually pay outright for sex though.
I did have a stripper offer though, and I turned her down, saying “The day I have to start paying for sex is the day I need to stop having it”. She laughed and said “Hey I had to try. That’s ok you don’t have to pay me”, and came home with me anyway. Considering that I’d already dropped around $400 or $500, I guess you could say that I had already paid for it, just wasn’t sure if I was actually gonna get it.
everyone pays for sex,what do you think its called when you take a girl on dates and then she lets u have sex with her after a while? you just paid for sex,you had to take her out to dinners etc in order to get laid,its the same thing.
That’s a cynical and borderline misogynistic way of looking at things. Sure, there are times when a guy is just out for the goodies, but I’d like to think that the money spent on a date is just a means to enjoy good company, conversation, a movie and/or meal with someone you like. If the night ends in sex, great. If not, great.
-D4
I see both greentea and Data4’s point of view. Although, I do feel D4’s viepoint on dating is the healthier and more respectable approach, and view dating as he does.
Not many women are going to have sex with a guy without at least a little wining and dining and getting to know each other.
BUT
I also don’t want to think that there’s a dollar threshold to be reached before the girl drops her pants.
What I meant in my statement was that I understand that I’m probably going to have to spend some money on a girl before the clothes come off. But, I would not be comfortable with a straight exchange of money for sex.
And finally, if a girl is just letting me have sex with her, I AINT INTERESTED. The women I sleep with actually want to have sex with me too.