Thats just it, yes they will exploit you but arent men there to exploit them as well ? Your not going there because they serve the best beer in town. They know your coming to exploit them and in their minds turn about is fair play.
I know a few of those from my kids school, none of them are strippers though.
Since you mention that its been this way for years I would have to say the cops probably overlook it. They are not on the streets causing trouble so they probably figure its fine.
Oh I agree with your logic, except the disturbed part. If your going in to have fun, drink, hang with buddies, watch the girls, or whatever else fine. Thats your thing and I have never been one to judge. Just remember when you go in its a show and thats all it is. The only attraction they feel is the attraction to your money. I dont feel you would be able to accurately gage how mones work in this environment. Just as long as you know that going in then its fine have fun.
Before anyone says Tisha is judgmental of men who frequant strip clubs, Thats is not the case. I have been to male strip clubs with my friends. You go for fun, If someone dances in front of you or sticks his cock in your face its not because he likes you or is attracted to you. Its because he noticed you have on $450 Prada shoes and knows you have some cash.
Hot damn! All this makes wanna go to a strip club and be exploited! The funny thing is I’ve know many of the dancers I visit for years and, sheesh, they’re just trying to pay their bills and stay above water. It a grind for them and they’re bored senseless. A few are students at my college and neighbors! It’s not much different than tipping a waiter, masseuse or driver. They render a service and you reward them. It’s a clear and straight forward relationship no different than any other service industry. Nobody is being exploited as it’s a two-way street. And, yeah, I go during happy hour and drink Blue Moon (Belgium wheat beer) for cheap. Hell, the beer’s so good I don’t really need the women…
LOL I dont mean you personally GW, I mean “you” in the collective sense. I should have pointed that out better.
But the word exploit was yours from the quote I was referring to and I find it funny that when its said that the women are expoiting the men who come to the place everyone agrees but suddenly hackles go up when its said that the men are there to exploit the women as well. Suddenly your all there for the beer. (snort)
Exploit simply means to use to ones own advantage so to be honest lets just say the 80% of the men are there to exploit and the other 20% are there for the " Blue Moon (Belgium wheat beer) for cheap" LOL Also by exploit I dont mean “have sex” I mean take advantage of the scenery and atmosphere.
Tisha, I suspect you and I are in violent agreement.
For either men or women, they reap what they sow. For those at the strip joints in quest of cheap beer and beautiful scenery perhaps there are no negative consequences.
For myself, the times I have been in such places I found them distasteful. Not for any moralistic reason. It just felt like I was surrounded by predators and I was not comfortable in the environment. I am much more comfortable drinking a glass of wine in an intimate situation with someone I trust.
It has always been much easier for me to find potential partners than it has been to vet them. Stepping into a roomful of predators is more of a chore for me than a pleasure.
I guess geography is everything. The patrons in Oahu clubs are filled with a typical cross-section of society but are mostly guys hanging with their friends for a brew after work. They’re mostly paying attention to themselves and the frickin’ football game to the dismay of the dancers. Our bars are also filled with “hostesses” and they serve all sorts of Korean pupus (finger foods). I guess some of the bar hostesses can be likened to a predator due to their incredible skills but they back off if you’re not interested. The mama san is the supreme mistress of the house and if you misbehave your ass is grass.
There are many of these joints next to the mall and thus a great place to hide and get plowed while your SO shops endlessly.
The clubs in Bangkok were the only ones I had a feeling were filled with predators. Kinda creepy seeing all the old White guys with young girls.
funny thing is one of the strip clubs near me is called Blue Moon lounge (not the one that offers the services, don’t think you want their services), now i know why they call it that LOL
Somehow the exchange of money for any kind of erotic or more-than-friendly attention from a woman strikes me as a complete and instant turn-off. I could no more go into a strip club and have fun than I could hire a hooker and do anything but talk to her. For me, it is as much a matter of strongly disagreeing with turning intimacy between myself and someone else into a business transaction as it is respecting myself too much to engage in such an activity.
That said, I’m not looking down on, or talking down to, anyone who is comfortable with it. That’s not my place to do, and I don’t hold anyone in judgment on either side of the fence who acts as a consumer or supplier of such activities or services. It’s just not for me.
Personally, I have concluded that being careless with sex, and one’s emotions concerning sex, is very self destructive. At least it is for me.
Relationships in real life are not so different than those we have with hookers and strippers. I only wish they were as simple and straight forward! The truth is most men think of these clubs as mere entertainment, and they have nothing to do with emotions or sex. It’s kinda like extreme sports: you get a rush outta almost dying and are usually in reasonable control. Sadly a few oddballs lacking normal female relationships may become confused and “fall in love” with a working girl but these sorts of guys are rare and really know better.
John Blofeld writes of the courtesians of old Beijing in " City of Lingering Splendour." Mostly he wrote of eastern religions but in this book he wrote of a few years he spent in Beijing in the mid 30’s as a young man, prior to the Japanese occupation.
The courtesians there were well trained, and they and their establishements were basicly set up to recreate the experience of falling in love. Blofeld goes into detail concerning his relationship with a young courtesian. He got a bit of “love lite” while it appears she may have actually fallen in love. My heart hurt and I looked at Blofeld in somewhat of a different light after reading the story.
He ends up going off to England before the occupation but returns after the end of WWII and again meets up with his old lover, sharing a meal wtih her and her husband. She endured many hardships, with the rest of the Chinese population, during the occupation.
Modern Beijing is not the same city nor culture. I found the look backward to another time, and the variations on a theme there, captivating.
have you guys ever seen those chicks in the light? i thought i might try it out for a while until i saw that they looked older than me even though they were 7 years younger-and i dont want that! ugh! strippers are GROSS.. lol… use pheromones to attract better…
