I recently bought a bottle of T.U.T.H (Turn Up The Heat) Pheromone as I have always had curiosity towards their effect but had not decided to try them out until now.
I put one spray on while my girlfriend of 4 months was over at my condo, when she leaned in to hug me she nearly hurled. She asked me what kind of cologne I was wearing. I said it was some new brand, she said that she didn’t mean to be rude but that I should not wear that cologne again as it made me smell like a dead skunk and was just a disgustingly awful smell.
I had heard that if you put to much on then it could be off-putting, so next time I saw her, I just had a dab on my neck, not even a full spray and she said that it still smelled pretty bad, she then proceeded to sit on the couch far away from me because it stunk so bad. When I washed it off she smiled, laughed and told me that it was much better and that she could finally breathe.
Has anyone else had this kind of negative feedback from T.U.T.H. If so, what would the reason be and what would remedy it?
I am tempted to write the website I bought this from a negative review and ask for my money back, but before I do I would like to investigate any wrong doing on my part or if some women like my girlfriend have a negative response to pheromones…although I am pretty sure your not even supposed to be able to smell pheromones? I put on one spray the first time, and just one dab from my finger to my neck the second time with very negative results.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to your responses and advice.
Hi .
I think she is some of female’swho are enone sensitive.
May i ask you : is she asian ?
Have you tried it in on other targets. I kn it should be only tried on overt environment like bar ,club . Have you tried there.
Did you tried it with some cover scent.
Its ok if she is over sensitive to the smell .
My suggestions would be : try (after few more meetings with her ) with cover scent . Or spray few hrs befoee meeting. Or try it with Tac and p83 .
No she does not happen to be Asian, she is a white girl. Out of curiosity what is the relevance of that question?
That is a very interesting point, I have not heard of “enone” sensitive women, are there women out there who can smell pheromones then and are put off by it?
I haven’t tried it in any bars or clubs, however I have worn it while shopping for my diet food (I am training for an amateur male physique competition). I didn’t notice a lot of response from women I crossed paths with either negative or positive.
I have not tried it with any cover sent. Perhaps that would work, I have even since looked into using the pheromone pills that help induce your own internal pheromones, what are your thoughts regarding those?
As for my girlfriend being sensitive to smell, nah she is not that sensitive to smell, she is fine and my smelly hockey equipment airing out doesn’t even bother her…apparently just pheromones.
The issue is your GF’s sensitivity to the scent of pheros - probably Androstenone as it is the primary mone in TUTH.
Scent scensitivity varies very widely between individuals and individual pheros. Some don’t smell it at all but others will smell it strongly and unpleasantly through any cover scent.
Her revulsion may also be influenced by a few other factors - Age particularly. You don’t say how old she is or how old you are. If she’s young and you are reasonably young, you could be outputting a good amount of Androstenone naturally ad the extra None may be pushing you into OD - which can provoke a range of highly negative reactions from yunger women, even those who are sexually comfortable with yu in other situations.
The sitting on the other end of the couch thing is also something I’ve experienced at times - Its usually when wearing an overt product like TUTH when she’s not feeling in the mod to be horny to begin with. In these cases, it can hit hard the other way and all she wants to do is get the fuck away from you. So its maybe best to introduce a product like TUTH when you go-out or are having fun and she’s already more than a bit turned-on. That way the smell of Androstenone might go-down more positively.
Do you know whare she is on her cycle? Sensitivity to Androstenone tends to be most positive around ovulation but at its most negative on or near menstruation.
You don’t need to leave a bad review to get a refund - raise a support ticket instead for some help. AD’s Warranty is amongst the best there is and they do understand that not all mones will work the same way with all people. So they will happily refund it or issue an alternative - It could well be that she responds very well to another non-Androstenone product and won’t have any scent issues. Besides, her strong response is an indicator that the product does work - even though its not the way you wanted it to!
Personally I’m only really sensitive to P103, which smells like strongly smelly feet, through any cover scent in no time - Which does hamper my use of an otherwise very useful phero!
Thanks for the well thought out post Mobocaster, I shall try to answer as best as I can.
Yes as I seem to have learned, some people have a very keen sense of smell to pheromones and as we have deduced, my lady is one of them!
My girlfriend is 29 and I am 33 and we are vey comfortable with each other, I happen to have very high testosterone levels to begin with and maintain a very fitness driven life, lifting weights for 2 hours each day in the gym and playing hockey 2-4 times per week, maybe that influences the pheromone levels and how it interacts with T.U.T.H.
That’s hilarious I guess you are right, even though she responded very negatively, at least I know that it works haha! Thanks for your advice to writing a ticket, it will likely be more advantageous than a negative review.
Asian women can exhibit a far lower tolerance to Androstenone compared to other races - Conversely, they often show a particular affinity for Androsterone (eg IG) instead.
Wearing the likes of TUTH in situations where sex isn’t imminent often leads to negative responses. Similarly, it won’t generally get good results at work or in church - Its not like you can get straight down to it in the pews during a service! “ghosting” is also a sign of OD - Where you get ignored as their response to your mones is entirely incongruious with how they feel about you otherwise.
Training does increase your natural output very effectively. You won’t need to be looking at pills there - Although I’m suspicious of most. A good diet and excercise should be all you need. There is more info in here if you search.
The smell of musty sports gear is often actually Androsterone - so maybe you should investigate something with that?
Ah-ah! - Androstenone is matabolised from Testosterone, so if you already have high Test levels, it is very likely that your None output is similarly high. Despite your ages being not unreasonably young, I’d see this as as much an OD as a scent sensitivity situation and that maybe you should be looking to round-out your signature with a social or emotionally-engaging product instead of piling-on more None.
That’s really interesting, I would have not picked up on pheromone sensitivity differential between races if you and Soni had not mentioned.
So correct me if I am wrong, what your saying by saying that it has negative effects at work and at church is that people who do not intend on having sex with you or don’t see you in that light would have a negative response to the stimulus provided by T.U.T.H. My girlfriend is a different case as she may actually smell the scents because of sensitivity.
Yes I will definitely search more and its good to know my lifestyle helps facilitate pheromones as well.
What are some pheromones that don’t have androstenone, or is that pretty much a fixture when it comes to pheromones? Yes I will look for a product that does not have this androstenone in it as my levels would be high already. Can you recommend any products?
There are a range of products that don’t contain Androstenone that you could consider:
Consumer Line, full AD warranty:
Instant Shine - happy/feelgood. Goes well with just about anything. May soften the blow of None but not a great moderator by itself. I usually pair it with IO or IS.
IO - Alpha-Androstenol mainly. Light bright/bubbly/chatty feel and good for moderating Androstenone, natural or added.
IH - Beta-Androstenol mainly. More bonding/sharing/connecting/trusting. Personally I find IH/IS a good adult combo for getting sexually adventurous.
IG - Mainly Androsterone. A lighter, no-None status product. Smart/dashing status.
Experimental products. I’d suggest you discuss with AD first as the warranty is limited on these:
P75 - A useful non-none sexual/masculine product that is often a good alternative to None around Asian/younger women.
MX297 - Highly engaging social mix. Good alongside high-none and worked for fun/good times.
TAC - An interesting Putative. Lightly social/pleasant/playful/goofy feel that when used in doses over 20mcg can encourage “letting-go” and enhance orgasm. Reasonable None Moderator.
P74 - Good None moderator and interesting bonding properties - Goes well with IH.
P130 - Light/playful/fun vibe and helps make Mone very tasty to a surprisingly wide range of women.
All of these could help round-out your natural None and surely she won’t be sensitive to all of them but I wouldn’t suggest you get the lot at once! Have a chat with AD first.
Another thing to bear in mind is that around 30 can be an important tipping point for a woman’s perception of sexuals - when they change from liking lower-none/more social/broad-based products to going much more for higher/more overt None and more mature status products.
Not exactly different - more there is a fairly wide range of potential negatives, depending on a number of factors incl physical, emotional and environmental. Broadly, just kicking back at home isn’t always the best time to introduce a new and highly overt phero signal as even though she’s comfortable with you sexually, she may not be quite in the mood for SEX RIGHT NOW! which is pretty much what TUTH screams at her.
A night-out or other fun times when she’s already pretty relaxed and turned-on is maybe better - And the socials above can also help promote that mood.
Grab something called ASTROGLiDE it is amazing. Tell her you got her something special. Then one thing leads to another, you give enough foreplay to a women she will easily jump your bones. Be warned you might have some good scratch marks on you when you get done.
Make sex/foreplay more about the woman 1st, drain her completely. Yes it takes more effort, but it pays off in spades my friend.
