TAL 5mcg on a guy: feeling powerful and dominant (after a MOET inhale)

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Note this is after spraying one 10mcg shot of MOET onto a paper towel and inhaling, so not a pure experiment. Also, I have been letting natural mones build up by using DHEA,sandalwood and not too much soap. It’s rare that I don’t wear any mones so it is possible that I am attributing some properties to the test mones that are really due to the natural ones.

Applied one 5mcg TAL spray split between to wrists and back of neck.

None makes me feel more powerful and dominant yet at the same time I often feel aware of the price paid by the alpha male baboon in Robert Sapolsky’s “A Primate’s Memoir” (he is aged and worn out by the repeated challenges to his authority and the continual battle to stay on top).

TAL was different - I felt confident, a bit assertive. Sense of calm and fluidity. The Starbucks guy (who I often see) didn’t notice me the moment I walked in as would be the case with a rone or none mix, but he volunteered some stuff about how he had been having a rough day, which he has never done before. Possibly a bit like a softer version of Jasmin’s experience with the bank teller.

TAL is not without attention-grabbing properties from men and from women, but there is none of the head-snapping impact of 'none. Plenty of hair play from women and a little from men. (Similar to NPA/TE but more toned down, at least at this dose). [My take is that hair play is not necessarily sexual - women often seem to do this towards other women. More of a ‘notice me’ - on occasion seems to be an aspect of rivalry/jealous aspect to this action where a woman is introduced to a more beautiful/higher status woman]. Friendly energy, sense of reduced barriers, maybe a good component of a party mix.

I thought I might see responses indicating a lack of congruity between my phero sig and appearance but, at least from these relatively superficial interactions (and walking around downtown), I didn’t notice any.

Overall what with the MOET and TAL I’m in a good mood as if I have just been laid or something.

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TAL on a man: social confidence at higher doses, and how it compares to IFM/IS
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any TAL only observations since this report?

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yeah, I’ve tried it several times in higher doses, 30-60 mu in strong mixes… definitely adds a social confidence edge, women open up a lot… they seem to become more teenage like in their behavior, when they didn’t have a worry in the world, they get smiley and feel understood… all around good fun… add it to a NONE based juice and they can get veddy turned on all around.:smiley:

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that sounds very similar to the results that i get with using IFM & IS.

if you have any experience with IFM & IS, are there any differences that you’ve noticed between TAL and the IFM/IS combo?

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Here’s an interesting behind the scenes corollary that I’ve never mentioned publicly or privately before:

TAL is the centerpiece molecule in most of my mixes for the FEMALE version of Shine.

It also plays a large part in the current version of Instant Sexiness.

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aha! (exclamation point just for dramatic effect)

wait, does that mean that TAL is supposed to have positive effects on men since it is in the womens formula, or it’s in the womens formula because IS is a more personal product first and a shared product second and TAL has shown demonstrable effects on women?

break it down for me please, i can’t get all scientific at the best of times and it’s even more difficult after several tall guinness stouts. :smiley:

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Just something I mentioned, in case it’s useful. Something that might lead to an aha for us collectively. :slight_smile:

I really find it fascinating when people on the forum notice things or use things parallel to our own findings. Especially findings we haven’t shared (as far as I know anyway).

When there’s no collusion whatsoever, something not dissimilar to the beginning of a “fact” emerges.

The whole thing delights me, and even makes my head spin a little (especially the speed at which tacitus makes his discoveries, whew!).

Initially, based on the configuration of the molecules, I figured TAH would be best for the female version of Shine, but with the feedback I have so far, that’s not necessarily true. It’s not what the test data shows so far, and that’s what I have to rely on. If only I was a woman, I’d be able to reconcile the data on the female pheromones much faster.

Basically TAL and and mix in Shine both have their own version of a “feel great” effect, although I don’t recommend you, as a male, use TAL on it’s own… but instead in combination with a masculine mix.

I think TAL burns a little brighter on the mood elevation front for women than it does for men, and that it’s a little heavier effect than what men experience when they use Shine. Something a little more serious and A314ish for women, but not all the way… More like something inbetween A314 and Shine, but more on the Shine side.

Again, since I’ll never be a female, I can’t confirm this with personal experience, but that’s basically what the reports show.

I still need far more data. For all I know, my original theory was right, and the data so far shows the bias it does only because it’s incomplete.

When I can’t confirm things personally, I like to be beaten over the head with data. Heck, even when I can confirm things personally, I like to be beaten over the head with data! Data is good.

I’d be interested in what guys here get when they use a successful mix that incorporates TAL, and then add a minor fraction of TAH.

For example, if you used 30mcg of TAL in your mix, and got a good effect with that, I’d love to know how 5 to 10mcg of TAH added to the same mix changes it for you.

Oooh, thick stuff. That’s basically time release beer.

How about black & tans? What sort of effect do you get from those? And how 'bout the people around you? :wink:

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odd o/d or side effect from mutated mones

Went away for the weekend and forgot to bring my polysorbate mone-removing shampoo (soap alone doesn’t seem to do the job for me). Three days of buildup and don’t entirely recall what I used (but included TAL, IFM, Impi, TAF, MOET, Shine, Ammunition). Managed to create a most unfortunate condescension effect - guys seemed to want to explain at length things I already knew or didn’t care about.

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how does TAL interact with TAC, I wonder? TAL + IFM? TAL+alpha-nol?

how stable is TAL/does it need a fixative?

did you manage to get to od level? any negative effects of TAL without none? you become a girlie friend?

Michael - what dosage range of TAL would you suggest?

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Anything below the dosage of A314 and/or Instant Shine.

So you could theoritically use 100mcg, as long as you’re using more than 100mcg of a masculine pheromone mix.

I just don’t recommend it alone without a masculine mix, unless you’re OK with experimenting that way.

As far as reasonable dosage goes, I’d say 2.5mcg to 17.5mcg. Pretty small. The influence of TAL is detectable at small levels.

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As a male in his late 20s, I’ve been playing with TAL (5 mcg/spray bottle) and definitely like the results. Does seem to make people, both men and women, mostly very friendly with me. You do need some A314 or a -None-strong-product to add a bit to the respect factor and I guess the latter for more sexual tension. I have had some good and ‘fun’ conversations with a female workmate and housemate both around my age wearing TAL and my regular A314/WAGG/IO/IS combo.

As far as effects on me, TAL doesn’t have the confidence-enhancing effects of TAA. On the other hand, I do seem to be more friendly and social on it (reminds me of A-Nol in that way)…

I can see that TAL does have quite a positive effect on females and I would love to see what it does with IFM in female-only company…

Visionary

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I think you’re remotely boosting a woman’s confidence wearing TAL, and thus, their expressiveness. Bringing them out, and perhaps even “Bringing out the best in them” when used in a good mix.

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That TAL IFM combo sounds quite interesting. May be somehting to put on my list of things to try…

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So TAL on a man, when equalled or overpowered by a masculine mix, will make the masculine mix more effective by increasing female forwardness, expressiveness and confidence? Hmmm… sounds like the icing on my cake for SD-12. SD-13… coming up! Haven’t even tested SD-12 yet, jeez.

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has anyone yet explored TAH on a guy ? either on it’s own or in combination with TAL?

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bump… any other chaps experimented with TAL or the other fem mones lately? maybe this thread will spur you on to try.

TAL on a man: social confidence at higher doses, and how it compares to IFM/IS
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Thanks for the bump. For some reason, I have a 1oz bottle of TAL 2.5mcgs and will try it now that I know a good use for it.

Will be fun with:
1 spray of Ammo 4X
3 spray of Instant Honesty 4X
2 spray Instant Female Magic
4 spray TAL 2.5mcgs (total 10mcgs)

Mwah ha ha haaaa…

Nothing better than being the only guy in a group of chatty horny women in a good mood.

Cheers,

:cool: Quicksilver

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Even tho I’m a woman, I’d have to say I agree on TAL’s effect on other women, based on last night’s magadose fueled TAL adventure. Women were very very friendly smiley, and chatty, even with a pretty big does of cops on.

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I’d be interested in seeing if any other males have tested this.

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I find that TAL in doses between 2.5 and 7.5 mcg is a good addition to most mixes where you’ll be dealing with ladies. It’s a nice icing on the cake, so to speak… seems to have a high, light sort of energy and it appears to me as a sort of translucent ultraviolet color, not that that is of much use… but TAL seems to make females more comfortable around me, sort of strengthening them in both presence and apparently adding to their sense of personal value or self esteem. In a mix that makes you seem very high value, TAL appears to help make her feel “good enough” to deal with you.