I don’t see TAL being used alot. Is TAL not really a good mone. I’ve seen about 10 or 12 recipes but none of them have any TAL.
Maybe I missed something. Is TAl IG or IH?
I’ve read some good reports on TAL, TAK, and I think TAH among others.
I’ve got myself in over my head right now as far as mones go. I need to slow down and get a handle on what I’ve got for now, and then move onto those others.
I’m finding that a lot can be done with one really good solid mix, but before I settle on that, I want to do a bit more solo flying with the rest of the products I’ve got so I can get a good idea on what to expect when I mix it with something else.
It’s so much easier when you fly solo with something like CTTM and then A314 and then IS so when you combine the 3 later you can actually say. Okay, the CTTM2 is bringing them in to talk to me, while the A314 is keeping me from reacting to shit tests, while the IS has me all chill and in a good mood.
That’s a bit of a simplification of the process, but you get the point.
I’d like to know who neg repped me and posted this comment instead of just responding on this thread:
TAL and TAH are FEMALE mones used by women to attract men. Men use them in VERY small amounts along with a masculine mix to make themselves seem less aggressive and more approachable. Use too much of a female mone, and a man risks coming off as gay
LOL I don’t get it.
Wasn’t me.
Anyway, the reason that I asked is because I read the sticky that Jasmine has and she suggests that TAL might be good in a mix with TUTH and P79.
I have seen many recipes and formulas but none with TAL. Just wondering why no one is using it
stupid reason for a negative rep honestly
TAL and TAH are used as the primary components in the Instant Sexy A/B. TAL is believed to be the more forward of the 2 where TAH is the more coy/playful.
These can be used in male mixes without a problem but many people are scared away from using them due to idiots who drop neg reps and then make stupid comments about coming off gay. As long as they are balanced with male pheros there isn’t an issue. I’ve seen up to 5mcg of TAL used and have actually even considered testing the product (blindly) on a friend who needs some help to battle her social anxieties.
TAL or TAH doesn’t make you appear ‘softer’ and more approachable or beta compared to alpha… nor does it make you come across as gay. It will create a hell of a lot of confusion in people though because it IS a feminine signature and as a male I just don’t think it’s possible to be totally congruent with that lol.
Some people have used it to try and add an ‘initiation’ factor to sex/intimacy brews but have not really followed up.
I think pairing low mcg TAL with something very maculine like P75 and buffering with other experimones and putatives could make a very strong “sex brew”.
One train of thought though is that TAL will interact differently on male skin compared to females, so it would not necessarily have the same effect as the female spraying Instant Sexy A on herself for the self effects. This is another thing that deters people from using or testing. One of the only ways to truly test is to have the same person wear the TAL and report back or watch their behavior (easier to do with someone you know very well) and then you wear the exact same thing around the person, and watch their response. I have not yet done this but I just may with a friend to see if I can see any changes.
If TAL does work similarly when diffusing from male’s skin, then this opens a whole new aspect to the sex mixes… in which use of TAL could be very beneficial to cause the female to initiate sex. If you were to pair this with p83 which is reported upon greatly for it’s disinhibiting factors it could be insanely potent. Adding things like Meo-EST, Beta-Nol, p102, -none, -rone, p75, p80, p88, etc. could also change the complexities and make more or less potent.
There’s still tons of research to be done by the members of this forum on this product, so don’t be scared to try it out.
I currently have a 30ml of TAL in 10mcg concentration. After I get my next 2 shipments with the components of the mixes I’ve been thinking of, I’ll probably be creating some variations of them to include things like TAL to see what type of impact it has.
Don’t let the idiots dissuade you from doing anything you think might be beneficial for you and the forward progress of this research (both for yourself and for AD).
OK wow!
This is dj’s slow fuse
Do you think that adding TAL, P83, A1 or all of the above would improve on his formula?
once i get my next orders i’ll have pretty much everything to make dj’s mix
I’d have to switch the -none for p75 tho because I don’t have any -none at this time… but will have everything else
The thing with the ‘slow burn’ mixes is that they build and build… I think the TAL and P83 would offset the idea of the ‘slow burn’. The A1 could be great for adding really natural attraction presence tho. I may composite DJ’s mix and then do some variations to test it out. really depends on how much i can focus on testing other mixes outside of what I’m playing around with myself
I have two questions reclipse
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I have both TAL and P75 in 2.5 mcg what do you think would be a good amount for a mix? I was thinking abut trying out this mix myself.
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I would also would like to see what you think about an amount of P83 and TAL for a potent mix would be? I have P83 in a 10mcg and TAL in a 2.5 mcg
Although the statement is true, that was a incredibly stupid reason to neg rep someone especially when the person could just state there opinion here. The admin and Mods know who it is, its only hidden from members. I wish they would just nip the problem in the bud or just get rid of the stupid system all together.
Get your head out of your ass neg repper !!!
TAH and TAL are primarily used in female mixes and MB. This does not mean that men can not use them. Women and men cross over and use the other genders primary mones all the time. It all comes down to how much you use though and what you use it with.
Just like if a women uses to much anone or arone we can come off as to aggressive and butch if men use to much TAH TAL or EST they can come off as feminine. Some people will translate that vibe to gay or just be confused by your vibe and think your creepy.
The only exception in crossing mones is copulins. These no matter how much you wear can never make you appear gay. Men just dont make them and there is only one way the mind subconsciously translates them. You have just been with a women. A lot could make them think your a male slut though LOL
I would never suggest to a guy that they use TAH or TAL as the primary molecule in there mix.
Men would take a heavy masculine mix or molecule such as TUTH or A314 and work around that mix with other molecules to steer it in a new direction. Suppose you want a more sensitive soft vibe to come through along with your sexy hot masculine vibe. Then you may want to use a very low amount of TAH with your TUTH or A314.
I believe men generally dont use TAL because its already alpha in nature and they figure they can get there alpha vibe from the mens molecules. It can be useful in a mens mix though. Its a matriarchal type vibe. I think used in small amounts in a mens mix it can bring a vibe of maturity with it for a guy to something like IJ or TUTH. I have suspicions from my testing with males wearing this one that it can get them stuck in the friends box easier but of course more testing is needed in this area.
Good point but I dont think it interacts differently on a male or females skin. I think the difference in reactions and self effects comes from the processing of the molecule in the brain.
Just because a person has a certain self effect from a pheromone does not mean this is the effect they will get from people when they use it.
So for instance suppose I use Instant sexiness A and it makes me feel sexy and confident. Then reclispe uses it. Its not going to make me feel sexy and confident or think he is sexy and confident. It will trigger the same emotions but my brain will process those emotions differently. I would probably get a more approachable mature reliable vibe from IS/A on him.
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I am not reclipse but I would suggest a 3 to 1 ratio when you buffer at least the first time. so use 7.5 mcg of P75 and 2.5 TAL.
Just keep in mind you also have to consider your normal dosage of P75. How much is effective for you normally ? For some it may be 7.5 and for others it may be 20 mcg’s.
Dont be afraid to test and find what works for you. That’s the great thing about being able to play with the molecules separately. You can come up with something that fits you and your needs.
Tisha