I am kind of new to the pheromone forum and am looking for input from experienced users. My first purchase was A314, Instant shine, Instant openness, Instant Honesty and P-TAL. I have had excellent results from all but the TAL. I don’t know, maybe I’m missing something. I have read other posts that have said it was excellent for attraction. For me, I don’t notice anything different. I know these aren’t magic potions but again I have noticed very distinct results from the others I purchased. Any input?
Acco, there are other guys on here that have more experience than I do with TAL and I hope they’ll give us some input here. My limited experience with it is mostly in a mix with P74 combined with IG. I think it tends to increase the status aspect of P74. It is considered a more feminine than masculine pheromone. According to an old post by Mharris (the guy who designs the mixes) men should always use equal or greater amounts of masculine pheromones to offset it. What mcg per spray do you have?
Since you aren’t using AMMO or IG I would suggest the next best thing would be to use your regular dose of A314 for a period of time, say 2 weeks. Make out a little schedule for yourself and on certain days wear TAL with the a314. Something on the order of 1 day off, 2 days a314 by itself, 1 day a314 with 2 sprays of TAL, 1 day a314 with 1 spray of TAL, a day off, 1 day a314 with 3 sprays of TAL, 2 days a314 by itself, 1 day a314 with 2 spays TAL ect. Keep track of what happens. You should start to see a pattern. The reason I think AMMO or IG would be a better choice is because a314 carries it’s own status vibe and that could cause TAL’s effects to be harder to see. It seemed to be an intimidating combo when I tried it.
Here is my journal entry about P74 + TAL + A314:
Hmm, weird class tonite. Very quiet mood. I was wearing 5 sprays of my P74 TAL mix, about 25mcg P74 and 5mcg TAL total, plus 2 drops A314 to balance the TAL. I have no idea if it was the pheromones or just a weird night. I went out for coffee and a sandwich (local cafe not a chain) after class and got excellent A314 style service (free chips, stuff brought to my table unbidden), but no real interaction with any of the other patrons.
Hope this helps, remember TAL is an advanced product and your experience with it will add greatly to the forum. Be sure to report your findings. 
One more note, nbully (from whom I got the idea of mixing p74 with TAL) said I should try adding “Lots of androstenol”. I think I’ll take his advice and try that this week. You might try running with 2 sprays IO + your regular A314 dose as your base and varying the TAL like I mentioned above. Reps for making me look over my notes on this. Nbully is among the phero nobility around here and I had almost forgotten his excellent advice.
Thanks for the advice Renny. I will definitely try alternating it as you described. It’s kind of hard to keep a clear head when you start getting good results from these things. I tend to go a little nuts thinking WOW–can’t go a day with out this stuff from here on out and trying to use every product every day. Of course that’s great for the store! Thanks for bringing me back to reality.
I could not agree more. I think Im going to run a similar test to yours swapping the p74 in and out of the mix. A good steady 2 week run. We’ll compare notes! thanks!
TAL is a female pheromone. It boosts women’s confidence, lowers her social filters..thus allowing her to open up and act more aggressively. TAL works well at positioning yourself in a positive position with women, although it isn’t sexual at all. Its best used at low doses (2.5 - 5 mcg max). At higher doses you will either
a) turn into one of her girlfriends: You position yourself too closely as a friend, and she opens up to you like one of her girlfriends, or a gay best friend
b) boost her confidence so highly that you give her that you sacrifice your dominance over whatever attractions are going on between the two of you.
Used at small doses, however, TAL can help open up a woman to the effects of other attractive pheromones. This is beneficial especially since many male pheromones have a tendency to intimidate women and close up.
Yepp, what Sigma said. It basically gives women more confidence, so if they are attracted to you they tend to lose their inhibitions faster and act on that attraction. In small amounts it’s a great addition to any attraction mix.
Excellent thread!! After reading it I went and made up a special batch with TAL inside. It’s a three component mix:
Alpha nol - 5 mcg per spray
None - 5 mcg per spray
TAL - 2.5 mcg per spray
Not sure if the ratios are the best but I’m working off a hunch. Anyhow, I’ll report back on this mix (I’ve got an excellent testing opportunity this Friday!!).
Rattle
Looking forward to your report Rattler
No offense ACCO202, but it’s exactly why we warn against using Putatives when your new to Androtics pheromones. You’ll get the results from the Instant line and then as you progress you will start to see subtle little nuances from the individual little molecules that make up the Instant line.
I’m nt sure how or why you selected TAL, which as Sigma pointed out is a female molecule, but hey keep testing and have fun. After all life is fun.
ACCO202, I thought I would throw an update in here. I decided that it was foolhardy to play with the P74 and TAL at the same time until I get more experience with the experimones.
I’ve been running the 2x A314 + 2x Instant Openness and swapping/varying the TAL dosage around. I’m not done yet but I wanted to make this observation. TAL really brings out some competitiveness in women. I’ve been wearing this mix to my spanish class and about three of the ladies in there really seem to punch forward during discussions. It seems to take a little while for the fumes to circulate around the class, but more works faster.
5mcg TAL or less is only noticeable on the lady that sits closest to me. 10mcg covered the room but 15mcg caused them to really dominate the entire conversation during class. The younger less forward ladies also seem to speak with more confidence but they get over shadowed by the alpha women.
I know some of our sisters over in the women’s section wear a lot more TAL than 15 mcg. It makes me wonder about some of them now. How much does what they wear affect other women around them?
I’ve also noticed that what sigma says about the friend thing would be of concern if one were using this in an attraction mix. Put on a bunch of it and it does become hard to position yourself as “the guy” in the group.
Overall so far this has been really interesting stuff. It took a few tries to really start to see what was happening. I think if any of you guys are like me and have a problem with so called male pattern blindness, seeing the social environment as a woman sees it, get thee to a group of females and spray some of this stuff on. Study how they react to each other. It is very enlightening. I’m gonna play around with it some more and try to give a more complete report next week sometime.
I’m looking forward to rattle’s take on this too esp. since he’s using -none as the male component.
Good work guys! I only have a little left of molecule L myself.
I would be interested in hearing how TAL (say 5 mcg) goes together with heavy A314 applications (say 6-8 drops). From memory TAL, like many mones, diffuses reasonably quickly so I would reapply 5 mcg every 1-2 hours. The heavy A314 would stop the TAL from making you give off a ‘strong woman vibe’. I am thinking TAL reliably raises women’s confidence level which is exactly what is needed when the DHV aura of heavy A314 is around (as was really well described by Sigma).
So I am thinking heavy A314 (6-8 drops) + TAL (5 mcg reapplied every 1-2 hours) + Instant Openness (or CTTM) might be an interesting one to try…
That seems like a LOT of A314!