tee hee hee....MEO-EST made me do it!

[tacitus]

Got a good shnort of high concentration MEO-EST this a.m… great googly moogly this ain’t granny’s lavender water…

I am JOLTED into a massive need to neaten everything in sight… I had this experience to a lesser degree with regular strength… there IS a nest cleaning instinct hardwired into us, even the most sloven of men, and this molecule IS the Start Button…

I am having a dual consciousness moment… where everything in the room presently is, and where it should be, and there is an IMPERATIVE sense that things should be moved from where they are to where they should be. It was NOT the pinpoint focus of TAF, none of that dopamine hone to it… now it totally get, at the hormonal, sex differentiated level, what women are organically experiencing when the go into housecleaning mode.

Use it for sex ???.. ummmmm… “put it THERE, no, exactly there, now go faster, no not that fast, no not that slow, but harder, I mean, be gentle but do it harder, ok, but with a little backbeat on it, no, no, go fast until you’re halfway in, then slow down, THEN go harder the pull it out softly until you’re 2/3 of the way out then stop for three seconds, go back in a third at medium speed, then pull back and take a breath, no don’t GASP, I need to hear you SIGH…”

Puleeeeze !

[Jasmin]

OH

MY

GOD

By George, he HAS it!

where everything in the room presently is, and where it should be, and there is an IMPERATIVE sense that things should be moved from where they are to where they should be. It was NOT the pinpoint focus of TAF

Mr. Tacitus, you’ve just described EXACTLY what happens to me when I’m MEO’ing.

[PheroQuirk]

@tacitus

Got a good shnort of high concentration MEO-EST this a.m…

what kind of dosage did you use?

[tacitus]

didn’t apply, only needed to unwind the bottle top and take a whiff of 300 mu… took about 20 seconds and my brain is locked into a force field that felt like a holy revelation…I was also outrageously articulate for hours after… not edgy or jumpy though, closer to obsessively focused on saying exactly what I wanted to say… dagnooshus I hafta know what this new putative does #74; will I have a primal need to don a racoon skin jockstrap and preach from the book of Urantia ?

[Futurist]

I just sniffed this stuff for about 5 seconds out of the bottle. Wow does that work quickly. My body feels different. All I can say is it is hyperfocus in terms of my field of vision. Whatever I am looking at directly I am locked on. Nothing in my perpherary is able to be focused on as well unless I make a concious effort to do so. Nothing really distracts. It’s really intense in terms of what you’re looking at. Too intense to call it comfortable.

[tacitus]

U mean p#74?

Which one did that to you ? If it was p74, what was the mic strength ? The description sounds TAF like, or otherwise ? Like NONE makes you uncomfortable ? Edgy, too revved ?

[SwingerMD]

I think Meo-Est definately has a lot of potential as a hyper focus perfomance mone. I can see the potential for when I plan to study up for the GMAT in a few months.

The pressing question (for the sex/relationship starved people like me ) is does this pheromone have a role to play in attraction? If it does, what does it do? Mixed with other mones will it’s “hyper focus” qualities translate to people “focusing” in on the wearer? Or is something more subtle?

-SwingerMD

[tacitus]

I don’t get increased libido or any of that… actually TAL, supposedly a femm mone, can add a tasty spin to a heavy male vibe like NPA… women sorta EMERGE around TAL…

[Futurist]

@tacitus

Which one did that to you ? If it was p74, what was the mic strength ? The description sounds TAF like, or otherwise ? Like NONE makes you uncomfortable ? Edgy, too revved ?

mine was 25 mcg per spray, 5000 total in the bottle. Said nothing about p74, just the molecule name on it.

It wasn’t the same as none in terms of being too revved. More uncomfortable because of whatever was happening in my body. I guess my extremity muscles felt a bit weaker, felt like my heart rate slowed down but much of my body’s activity seemed to feel like it was going on in my chest.

It was like being relaxed in an anxious “before you go on stage” type of way.

[tacitus]

It was like being relaxed in an anxious “before you go on stage” type of way.

Hmmmmm… definitely an autonomic response… it might be a small dose as catalyst mone, like TAF works for me… add in a speck of it to another mix and you have attentiveness, engagement… too much and you feel neurotic.

[Rbt]

I’m interested in this stuff too. Picked up a “small” dose bottle with my order (10).

Would certainly like to see reactions/impressions from the point of view of both how it affects the one wearing it, and also on how it affects those who are sniffing the wearer.

Broken down by sex too.

(No! That’s now what I meant by “Broken down by sex!” So stop grinning! Okay I said it that way as a bit of humor… Facing a big snowstorm today and I need my laughs.)

Of course would like to get reactions based on the effects of the product alone, and/or in various combinations and dosages. If I recall, Jasmin, in one of her blogs, reported interesting effects with a “megadose” of both Meo-est and TAF. Something about muffins in her oven…??

Could meo-est turn out to be a magical “hot to trot” ingredient in the search for the “killer ap” of sexual response mixes?

[tacitus]

Could meo-est turn out to be a magical “hot to trot” ingredient in the search for the “killer ap” of sexual response mixes?

Don’t think so. Doubt such an animal exists. A mythical beast perhaps. Good old primate armpit NONE under the right conditions, and blended with the right other accessory -mones still rules as the gold standard for plain old Hot.

I’ve experienced “out of the blue” moments with Chikara even, not a particularly aggressive formulation, and mixed results when reeking of NONE… I have never found the definitive Pantye Dropper Phormula…

The widened range of possibilities with the experimone family increases the complexity and depth of the experience… TAA sends you off in one direction and TAC sends you off in another… but we’re talking here “mood” or “tone”… not absolute control of the situation.

[tacitus]

After further investigation

yes… a lot of further investigation… a better idea of the MEO-EST phenomena, and why it is so filled with contradictory, hard to replicate responses… to explain this we will need a useful metapor, or a visual tool to help see how MEO-EST might (so far as we know in the phero world) have an entirely novel mode of action.

How might this be ? Before going into greater detail, consider that MEO-EST could potentially function as BOTH a male and a female signaling agent, however one that has been altered enough from the pure male or pure female structures that it cannot perfectly fit into either male or famale receptor sites… however it can partially, incompletely activate both sites resulting in something like a POTENTIATION without a full activation…

Leading us to an interesting contemplation of the brain and chaos theory

[Socrates]

I agree with Tacitus… I have not seen anything to suggest that MEO-EST is doing anything sexual in either men or women…

In fact I dont know if it is really doing anything at all for me. Such a product is probably not useful for me as I like consistency in what a mone does. It might turn out to do SOMETHING SOMETIMES in terms of mone responses but I want something that you can rely on to do what you want it to do when it is needed.

Visionary

[tacitus]

It sure is doing whatever it does though !

Being a “subtle energy” mone versus a ramrod mone tells us that different standards and different Perceptual Frames are called for, as well as lots and lots of experience in various contexts. I made up a wonderful mix of strong MEO-EST with beta-nol and alpha-dienol… wazzit overtly sexual ? Nyet ! OTOH, when you least expect it… I had a moderate residue on my clothes from a social experiment, though most had evaporated off, and without thinking went for a legit massage at a sports club… woman starts massaging me and it moving in a deeeliciously sensual direction, right up to the boundary of what one can do in a place like that and not cause a stir… and I’m lying there thinking this is like really good skin sex or something and we’re sort of in this deep mind meld trance state talking about a bunch of incredibly personal stuff like we are one brain with two heads attached, and she’s kind of embarrassed and laughing quietly and both a little confused and wildly getting off on it at the same time without crossing the line if you know what I mean… and when she (finally) wraps it up I look at the clock and she had been at it for 3 (!!!) hours, you had any good 3 hour long almost sex lately, my vocal pitch had dropped by an octave, the people at the desk were wide eyed… HOW did that happen ??? Hey, don’t look at me … so I’m sure the application of the subtle energy concotions are highly contextual…

[tacitus]

It gets better…

like we don’t know this by now, right ? The putatives can have a nice long learning curve… as said above, the combination of meo-est, alpha-dienol, and beta-nol was doing something special, in a quiet but powerful way, up close and personal.

Aside from a memorable massage, three experiences with much younger women that have me theorizing about this combination. Yesterday I boarded the subway with one seat open to my right, and an attractive young thang who was standing suddenly squeezes in next to me and is really letting me feel her breathe, then she puts her foot up against the pole (high up, like waist high), an untypical behavior in a full car… and she seems to be unconsciously snuggling up next to me… and I’m thinking… ok, interesting, this is taking the edge of my ride, and she gets up and leaves at her stop and I’m turning this over in my mind when a really cute, much tastier 20 something thang #2 gets on, now the car is less crowded, and she slides in next to me and she’s reading a paper of some kind and continuously tapping me and bumping me lightly and making minimal sigh-moaning sounds… hmmmmm… ok, then we come to a major stop where 4/5 of the car empties out and she slides one seat over (normal social behavior), we travel half a stop, almost empty car, and she slides BACK into the seat right next to me without thinking about what she’s doing and seems to want the physical contact… we go like this for three stops, to an outside observer it would look like we were related because nobody else sits like that in an empty car, and she’s somehow oblivious to how unusual this is, and she’s making these subtle intoned sighs (just like the massage lady was doing… double hmmmmm…) and she gets off the car at her stop in sort of a daze, and I’m thinking how strange is this ? And then there was the girl sitting next to me on the airplane…

[catlord17]

Have you ever thought to say hello to these women? Jeez, what’s it take for a woman to get a simple hello outta some random guy she can’t explain her attraction to? lol

[tacitus]

there’s a cost/benefit analysis involved

Sure I could say hello to every girl or woman that I meet…

Here’s what has happened over the past year though: a MASSIVE shift in my standards insofar as who I feel the need to invest mind energy interacting with… ( or, from another perspective, my self image and my “values”, two elements that aren’t exactly the same but are mutually reinforcing thought processes…)

Because…

(As a result of a combination of aggressive NLP and other disciplines study, body/mind integrations, extensive reading, tons of multi-dimensional sexual encounters, and pheromone discoveries… none of which is the entirety of the growth process taken in isolation)

… of being with a rarefied fraction of highly intelligent, like I.Q. 140+, and highly attractive, and highly accomplished (as in no messing around, high level corporate, 16 hour workdays for the last 10 years and now retired at age 35… with devastatingly sharp cognitive functions, i.e. knowing the exact tax implications of every inflection point on a decision tree) WOMEN…

Lord Have Mercy ! What rock was I under for the first 4/5 of my life ?.. there is no pressing need to get it on, or chat up, every girly girl that points her sexy sex ray gun at my third eye…

The HOT WOMEN that are really stimulating typically have 2,3, or 4 foreign languages that they can converse in with good comprehension, or exceptional logical/executive skills, or something real world outstanding about them…

When you have access to people like that, sometimes short term, sometimes for a longer period, it TOTALLY changes your psychic energy investment matrix…

I mean, this isn’t a parasitic maneuver. I believe in fair value: I put in as much as I receive. Being reasonable with expectations, reciprocating in good faith, and basic human decency are the foundation of high quality relations.

BUT you only have limited time, limited units of mental focus.

SO if you have some wisdom going for you too, you learn to identify people who have HIGH QUALITY KNOWLEDGE or HIGH QUALITY SKILLS and interact with them in a high quality way.

And learn a lot of seriously useful information in the process…

If you bog yourself down with mediocrity at every turn, even pretty mediocrity, you stay mired in the tarpit of mediocrity, and that BLOWS… bigtime…

[Aurelie]

Very eloquently put Tacitus.

There does sometimes seem to be a discrepancy between what some of the guys claim they are looking for, and the type of women their particular strategies will attract.

[countesszero]

I just received my MEO-EST. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with it. It sounds like it could be quite interesting.