the asian -none thread

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I’ve had his hankering for a while now to really give none-products a shot here. I firmly, along with the mad-tater apparently, believe that asians could have a positive rxn to -none, but it needs to be buffered, and i also need to play the part, perhaps more accurately than normal.

so here is the kitten’s kaboodle: I want you guys to suggest things to buffer none with, (psst, it doesn’t have to be a nol…) and over time, with intermittent putative tests, I will do my best to test them all out.

additionally if you have any positive or negative experiences with any previous attempts of your own, please post them or a link to them here.

My first question to all of you is: the none that came as a tweaker for pheroproof. what is the concentration of that? it doesn’t say on the bottle. i would guess that its 2.5mcg/spray, but i’d like to know for sure.

Some questions on pheromones.
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No idea on the concentrations (don’t know about the -none either), but you might try p74, IG, or both. p93 might not be a bad idea either. Of course there’s always Shine, and IO/IH..

Maybe some IFM?

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obviously i’ll be keeping the none concentration very low maybe 2.5mcgs max to start off. It would simply be great to have a ratio that actually worked. I personally would love to see none rxns out of asian girls. plus i have a whole bottle of none and i have litterally no other use for it.

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Hey Perronec! Glad to see you around again. Some of your early posts really helped me when I was starting, Thanks. SteveO and some others have been praising TAC as a -none buffer. I’ve tried it with some not too spectacular results, but I do like the “feel” of the 2 together. Give it a shot. Most of the mixes I’ve seen have a 1-1 ratio of TAC to -none.

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I ran a search, but couldn’t find any tests specifically using Tac as a none buffer. If you know where they are, could you post a link? also could you tell me more about your experience and what about the feel you liked?

In Marc-in-Dallas’s post, he said it killed his game. did you find that it canceled the none out or made the rxn’s come more readily. were the rxn’s social or sexual?

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Last night I went out to a club in Hollywood and met this really hot Korean girl.

She was into me from the start, and it kept getting better from there… We must have talked for 2 hours, danced a little bit…

Anyway, she was very sexual (maybe it’s just Koreans?). She was grinding on me with hardly any music playing, she made me feed her cherries, she was telling me how horny she was, and how all the asian guys around us had small cocks lol…

BTW, I was heavily NONED up: 3 half shots of Ammo, 3 drops of A314, all spread around my neck to upper chest… But, I tryed to buffer with 4 half shots of IS and 4 half shots of Instant FM all to my hair…

Hope that helps!

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I’ve had good results mixing chemset androstenone with androstanone. Seems to retain much of the nasty edge but with less of the negatives. Also high doses of spray TAA is kickass with androstenone. IS doesn’t seem to do nearly as well.

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Hmmm… You could always take an asian friendly mix such as MX200 and juice it up with some -none.

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I don’t think that asians are born chemically altered, but i am fairly positive the amount of none they are used to from their surroundings sets a tone for the early part of their life. Koreans in the States are have been exposed to a much higher none output than koreans in korea, japanese in japan, chinese in China etc.

it is on my willpower to make chinese girls grind on me with no music and the fact that they are not naturally actually against none(just conditioned this way) that i believe with a little buffer, i too can feed native chinese girls cherries at their request. the idea of this thread is to figure out which other pheromones are most suited to this task.

TAC sounded promising, but I unfortunately don’t have that. P74 I do have, and according to Idles post, the two have similar effects. the nols are a good possibility too.

thanks for your info Savages5CB! yours too renny!

I don’t have any TAA. I have some IS, but not too much left, so high doses is out of the question. Mx200 is something i have in spades, so i will definitely try that.

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It was rumored androstAnone was sold at AD as a P series. I bought it as a chemset mone from LS. It has been used in many commercial mixes as a highly effective -none buffer. Oddly, after playing with it a year, I decided I didn’t need no frickin’ -none buffers but my White 'n Blacks brothers might like it.

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I began my trials today.

however, i was bad. I didn’t try just one pheromone. I really wanted to see good results. tomorrow I promise to be a better scientist.

the mix was

2.5mcgs androstenone(or whatever dose the pheroproof none tweaker was, but its got to be 2.5, higher wouldn’t make sense)
25 mcgs p83
50mcgs p74

I through the p83 in there, because to be honest, i’m a little nervous about people shutting me out as they have in the past when i’ve worn none products(namely ammo).

however, the results, while not amazing, were pretty good.

the first class was a test, so obviously i wasn’t looking at anyone else.

the second class was the movie class, where we sit and watch chinese movies(mostly of the disney-esque variety due to ease of vocabulary). as we walked in, I sat down next to my british classmate. we were joking around about the test, and how hard it was. I instantly felt as if he were heavily differing to me and laughing much harder at all my jokes than usual. the girls behind me showed no signs of anything sexual, but were laughing very hard as well. I can’t say that anything i said was wittier than usual. I did feel slightly more edgy and “on” which i feel may have been none induced. although the laughing i think was mostly the p74+p83.

after class i went to lunch, and it ended up being a big group in a small space. things of note here, I was the first to sit down, and my italian friend(female) sat down next to me. before anyone else had sat down, she was right up against me, kino-ing me with one of her hands. she has a boyfriend, but this continued through the whole meal. I just played it off as friendly touching. I’m sure that was from the none. 2 other italian girls were talking to me much more than usual. one of them asked me if i would be studying at the cafe later because she wanted to join me. the guys at the table were all really respectful. again, thought i was hysterical.

Overall, I love the mix, but had almost zero contact with asian women. the 4 of them i did converse with albeit briefly, all of them were very open and had big wide laughing smiles.

analysis:

the none was well buffered. however I think the p74 took the reins a little more than i would like. I think i’ll back off on that a little bit, get rid of the p83 and see what happens. if its still well buffered I’ll up the dose.

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any idea or guesstimate at which P it was?

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You guess correctly. :wink:

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Intersting thought, and from my experiences you are spot on.

I’ve worn ammunition at 2 sprays ( which is a well buffered none mixture by itself) and had blatant rections from Asian women, the most blatant being one Chinese girl that walked into a chicken shop with her Chinese boyfriend in hand throw me a head turn and an “I’m intersted in what you got” smile, and she mouthed a “hi” to me, all while still being her her boyfriends arm. The boyfriend was on the other side of her and luckily never saw anything, even though he totally looked harmless. They both looked like the harmless bookworm types, maybe she’d never come across a guy that had smelt that sexual-way before, so she may have been turned-on or attracted by the new feelings she got from smelling the ammo on me.

Let me find the link to my journal where I wrote about this experience and post it here below.

Edit: here it is, about 3-4 paragraphs down:

Also I wear A7 at work on the odd occasion, and one Chinese born Australian girl who is friends with me at work never seems to be anymore repulsed when I have A7 on. She still acts all the same, and sometimes closes the space between me and her some more when we meet for a coffee-break chat when I’m wearing a7 in comparison to when I’m not. So all bodes well there too, considering A7 is high in none content, but well buffered with androsterone (a bottle of A7 contains 6mg of none, 1 mg of rone, but don’t be put off by the ratios, the rone balance somehow makes it that well balanced that I never can seem to OD)

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this post is in my journal as well, I thought it was important for people doing searches on the topic to find this post. if you want to see my journal its in my signature！

today, i decided to revisit my Asian -none experiment. People have always told me that I am the nice guy, I was once even told by a guy who was beyond good with girls that i just seemed “too safe”. While I must agree that at that time as I look back that I certainly was, and i did take some steps to remedy the situation. I worked on my game and it did get better. I got rid of a lot of my bad habits, neediness, etc. but after i broke up with that gf, I noticed, that while none of those habits really came back, I didn’t really feel like i had gotten over that “safe” hump.

moving along(not chronologically), Back in the states, I started trying phero’s, etc etc, things were fun, I bought instant jerk , and although i was more irritable, mischievous, and generally just more of a dick(because it was fun), I really liked the effects. I just did what I wanted, when I wanted, and enjoyed the outcome, regardless of reactions.

so tonight, i decided, fuck it. I’m putting on 2 sprays and going out into China.

2x Instant jerk
15mcg p83
2x mx200

you know what? I was greeted with nothing but smiles and interest wherever I went.

Dinner
I was the leader, people deferred to me on what food to order, i would ask people questions, and then(it was funny not asshole-ish) tell them to shut up(and they would). i would say “here have some sake” to someone who wasn’t drinking, and they would sheepishly say “ok…”

Foot massage
all the girls at the foot massage place were eyeing me. I had had plenty to drink, and i wasn’t tired or anything. I felt edgy and ‘on’. after the first hour was finished I ended up just deciding to get another one, because i love people rubbing my feet. so for 2 hours, i just spoke with the girls there non-stop. they would tell me about their home towns(not shanghai) and i would say, “you take me ok?” and they would be “you know how to ride a motorbike?”. and i would say, “oh I already know how…” (stupid i know, but i was drinking, so get off my case) but she would follow up with “oh i wanted to teach you…” and i said oh i meant the electric kind, idk how to do the gears on a motor one. (saved, but not really as i don’t want to go to her home)

another girl there was just eyeing me the whole time. and i would look at her, and she would giggle. the subject of age came up and they asked me what mine was. after making them guess, i then tried to guess their ages. in order they were 18,21, 27, 29. the 29 year old was the hottest, and also the one who eyed me the entire time. I’m thinking her age might factor into her reaction but i don’t care, i’m making a move next time. by the time I was done, she had finished massaging her last customer and gone somewhere else(who knows).

lesson learned: with a mx200 buffer Instant jerk works in china on asian girls at 2x level. and you know what? i think it fits me rather well. I’m going to have to work on this one…push the -none envelope if you will.

i’ve started to wonder if my natural -none production is on the low side. I don’t feel like what i’m doing should work so well considering my age and race, but to each there own!

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thanks for adding these posts perronec. i’ve been having great success here lately with TUTH at two sprays so i know asians don’t mind -none, at least as long as it’s got something friendly with it.

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instant Jerk x2
IFM x2
betanol 20mcg

showed up late to class. had a real ‘don’t give a shit’ attitude going on by the time i got there.

the teacher (male, 40’s) while making me read(we were reading outloud one by one) and standing next to my seat, began to become more and more passively agitated. the text was difficult, and had lots of nouns i had never seen before. with every mistake i made, he seemed more and more annoyed with me. half way through the paragraph, if I hesitated on a word even slightly, regardless of if I could say the character or not, he started to just say the next few characters after. on the surface it seemed like he was helping me get through the text, but what was happening, is he was just assuming i didn’t know any characters, and making me seem less intelligent than I am. If someone did this to me in english, i would have a hard time reading too. truly terrible teaching on his part. Of absolutely no value to learning chinese.

needless to say, the Instant Jerk was at work here.

the girls however, didn’t seem to notice. after the class(first of 2) was over, the older(but still attractive) korean woman gave me a back massage, after which i layed down on 3 chairs placed side by side. i was resting my eyes, and a few girls were throwing there bags on me and trying to playfully interrupt my snooze.

the next class was listening/speaking in which I do much better. my jokes hit notes with everyone. even the japanese girl who hasn’t spoken to me for 2 weeks after i didn’t go to karaoke with the class started her secret text messages to me across the room.

Instant Jerk was at work here too. I had a crush, and her life is just too complicated, and i didn’t want to be her secret friend.(long story)

her messages went like:

Her:Hey you were late, i didn’t think you would come so i texted you, but just then you walked in the door, i was suprised. HIIIIII!

Me: I’m a little surprised too, its been a long time since I heard from you, what made you start talking to me again today?

her: nothing special, maybe you stopped sending ME messages! (ToT) also I heard you were sick, so i was worried about you.

after about an hour…

Me: I’m still alive…

as you can see i wasn’t really friendly to her at all. and she never responded.

to be honest though, its treat her like this , or go down the just friends path with a girl who has no place for me in her life, and I find her attractive and really cool. You can see the future horribleness there…

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this post is in my journal too, but it is important, so I’m re-posting it here.

i wore:

2x ammo
75mcg p74
50+ mcg p83 (might be as high as 62.5 some weak sprays at the end of the bottle)
1 drop A314
20mcg betanol
1 x spaceland

its likely that the heavy hits i got were after those last two wore off.

i’m still sorta drunko right now, but i’ll do my best here.

I had 1 girl tell me she wanted to leave her boyfriend for me(litteraly gave me a proposition) phrased like, “if i left him could i have you?”(she is chinese).

a drunk japanese girl couldn’t stop looking at me and (same one as last time) tried to pinch my nipples playfully. I didn’t really talk to her, nor have much time for her tonight. maybe next week. she is totally cute/hot, but tonight she was too drunk.

all the italien girls were leaning on me kissing my cheeks, generally acting as if i were a high status male who is socially proven. I acted sexual with them, and while i skipped my chance with one for some sexual tension, it was there, i saw it, and decided against it. eyes on the asian prize.

Another girl would just laugh as I made jokes to other people. i’ve never met her before, and i assumed she was out of ear shot. (she was white) and i would look at her funny to make her feel wrong yet excited and then look back to my friends. I did this few times, she was digging me.

All in all. Ammo = awesomeness in china.

I can’t believe how wrong i’ve been this whole time. I think the p83 made everything more impulsive and forward, but i like it. i REAAALLY like it. today was the end of my p83 togo bottle, and now i have my 5mcg/spray 30ml bottle. so the doses will probably be lower, but i need to find my sweet spot as i’m sure 50+ is not necessary for success.

fun night. seriously! I felt so sexual, impulsively sexual.

this worked WAY better than using instant jerk as a none source.