Never heard of 4D, but if it’s mainly SQL it’s probably not that bad!
What are you guys using as window manager under ubuntu? I’m a kde junkie - never really got into gnome…
I do. Not that much though, very, very basic stuff. Only a couple steps past saying hello to the world. 
It’s quick to pick up, the syntax is pretty straightforward. Perhaps it was my limited experience, but it seems limited in what you can do with it.
Im a geek too. I am A+ and Security+ certified. but thats as far as i got. I did all that through a high school program. I was in the military [Active Army for Computer networking (25F)] so i learned lots more there and there was other minor certs i got just for completeing my AIT at Fort Gordon. Word. I just build my latest system last feburary. Got myself an 8800GTX (480 dollars when it was new…fuck that shit) – Instead of doing the new one here, i might just get another 8800 and SLI that shit. Word…
Don’t hate, I still have a 6600gt and a 148 opteron @ 2.7ghz.