the eccentricities of p79 -the most variable putative of them all

[mahalo_silver]

so , had a bad time with p83/p79…and my friend had played with 203/79 combo with bad results too. The asian girl i tested it on was initially responding OK to a 2 IS/p79 [2 sprays of 10mcg] mix, but wanted something to arouse her more, and going on a Tacitus lead that they may combine well together, i added 2 p83 [25mcgs]… well for me they didn’t. extreme OD type reaction - ghosted me out and agresively argumentative and "just take me home"type reaction. i see the problem though. at 1 p83 [12.5mcg], the p79 had already amplified it to double…so 2 p83’s, and perhaps its more something like the equivalent of p83 at 50mcg…and at higher doses, p83 can play out quite agresively, simliar to a none OD.

TRICKY ELEMENTS OF COMBINING 79 with other mones:

so this is the tricky thing with adding p79 - it makes Instant Shine amazing and always. and then again, it could make IH waaay too serious. and then again, it works well with a314 when IO or IS r added, and it CAN make Ammo amazing …if u have laid off none for a while …,

and then u wear it after a few days gap, add p79, and …baaang! purrfect. but then i wore ammo/p79 on another occasion where id been wearing none for 2 days straight, and a bad OD again.

and on its own , it can do damage. i conclude that its best worn with Instant range fare - IH at low dose, IO, and especially IS. dosent overly combine well, for me atleast, with p83, or 203…works well with 103 though or, theoretically, any rone variants.

IT IS INDEED A VARIABLE, ECCENTRIC AND ERRATIC PUTATIVE

[mockingbird]

Thx for reporting on p79

I am gonna try this p79 soon

Sorry to reply that late, but I hate to see any post, especially this good post, with no replies at all

[Bella]

This is a good post. You learned something valuable here. Putatives are tricky to combine on their own…even with socials…and doubly tricky when combined together. Good observations…go with a lower dose…easier to work your way up with these than down…IMO.

And yes, some of the putatives float aggressive tendencies…and have a decidedly masculine edge…again careful with the dose…as it can take off in unpredictable directions…and careful adding -none…'specially if you’re a young dude…and if you already have aggressive tendencies.

If you’re looking to arouse her more…try AMMO by itself…or…maybe with one spray P83/12.5mcg.

Great report, mahalo. Reps!

Bella

[mahalo_silver]

thanks Bella, i appreciate it,

i put a lot of analysis into my threads , and only ever get a few replies. i find it disillusioning that im doing all this testing with the putatives and mx’s and not getting much feedback,…maybe i need to move it to a journal? im getting discouraged.

[tisha23]

Keep in mind that just because your not getting feed back dosnt mean no one is reading it.

Your posts are valuable to the members and to androtics and your reactions with P83 anf P79 have been noticed.

I think your correct in your assumption that the P79 did amplify P83 to much for your target.

Reports indicate that asian girls do not react well to heavy sexual mones. P83 is sexual in nature.

Tisha

[renny]

Hey Mahalo Silver, Tisha is so right. There are so many posts lately it’s hard to read them all much less reply. Mockingbird deserves credit for being able to keep up. Anyway your posts are good. Thanks for them!

[Phya]

Most of us in here replied to

a nice example of a ammo/p79 hit [morning] and a NPA/ DST Pheros hit evening

so morning application of 2 a314/ 1 Ammo/ p79 [15mcg]…all spread onto wrist pulse points then hairy forearms for added diffusion, then smeared over gills. all Baristas friendly at my local GJ’s…i wouldnt say i got amazing hits as day game is a difficult concept for me, i cant be arsed trawlling malls during my office break looking for sets to enter my phero cloud , and i’m applying Ammo almost daily for the self-hit of mild agression and increased motivation, more than anything el…

Don’t worry, we’re reading your posts. Sometimes we just don’t have anything useful to contribute. My journal goes unanswered at times, but that’s okay, cause maybe later, all those unanswered posts add up into one big revelation and we’re all happy.

Anyway, I thought I’d add in my 2 cents about p79. I don’t find that it necessarily ‘intensifies’ or ‘amplifies’ whatever you’re wearing, but rather that it gives you the ‘drive’ to act in whatever manner you’re vibing. So if you’ve got IS on, and you’re vibing ‘energetic, upbeat, happy’ then you’ll be further inclined to express that. This is not unlike b-nol’s tendency to nudge you towards revealing emotionally relevant information. IME, p79 nudges you towards acting how you feel.

Kinda like, this is how I feel and I’m gonna show it dammit! That being said, I find the more complex a combo is, the less p79 I want to introduce.

[renny]

@Phya

Anyway, I thought I’d add in my 2 cents about p79. I don’t find that it necessarily ‘intensifies’ or ‘amplifies’ whatever you’re wearing, but rather that it gives you the ‘drive’ to act in whatever manner you’re vibing. So if you’ve got IS on, and you’re vibing ‘energetic, upbeat, happy’ then you’ll be further inclined to express that. This is not unlike b-nol’s tendency to nudge you towards revealing emotionally relevant information. IME, **p79 nudges you towards acting how you feel.

Kinda like, this is how I feel and I’m gonna show it dammit! That being said, I find the more complex a combo is, the less p79 I want to introduce.

Great stuff phya, this is a nuance I’ve felt but never been able to find the right words for. The chaotic part is it affects people around you in the same way. This gives me something to be especially aware of. Thanks! Oh and your journal is indeed awesome, I don’t reply to it much but I read it!

[mahalo_silver]

thanks guys,

yeah im finding p83 as tricky as p79…amazing reactions with IH at 1 12.5mcg, half a spray more and still good, but at 25mcg on 3 occasions now, and its really turned nasty. with the asian girl 79/83 experience, the interesting thing that i noticed was she was rubbing up against me while walking, then very hostile to me at the cafe. this was with 2 p83 [25mcg total]. this has happened twice - a hostile reaction, yet simultaneously aroused. and of course with too much IH, and im hearing comments that r hurtful to me, yet with just a spray or 2, and a empathic connectionis created, …everything is finicky when dealing with mones, thats y guys like Tacitus and Steve O r true artisans - a dab of this, a dab of that, get it wrong and u can ruin the mix…

maybe theres correlations between levels of mones tolerance and thresholds ie. how much u can wear to get good results before it turns nasty, and other tolerances in life. for example, im a very light drinker, so it doesn’t take me much to get the result of being drunk, so with me, i’m finding just adding a bit of this and that with IH and p83 and Ammo etc. …is proving a darn site more effective than heavier applications. eg. Mharris wrote about girls going ga-ga at 4 sprays of IFM, for me? that’d put me into an instant depression and freak the girls out. My friend snakeyes wears 3 Ammo, but for me thats complete OD.

so the sweet spot for most with p83 is at 25mcg…but i tested this amount around many different types of girls one night, a great mix at 1 spray that instantaneously turned at the re-application spray.

Snakeyes is getting great hits from Ammo/P79, and perhaps this combo. is more suited to the older phero users with higher tolerance levels for none. as for me…the 79 will bring the none to OD levels.

but with IS, or any Instant range product, where u can go pretty high on the number of sprays as Od’s r not really a part of there profile,…then p79 is ideal at emphasising the face and personailty of the IS or IO or mx103 or IH for some. it gets tricky, as Tisha suggests, when applying it to the mones with a sexual personality and frame.

79 should work well with the comfort family of mones too, - tac, IFM, IH, p93, 203, EST etc.

a random thoght for the brave - Spaceland and p79 anyone tried it?

[mahalo_silver]

Thanks for the support Phya,

yep i agree thats p79 also extends whatever emotions you’re feeling or vibe u r giving off. with me, this is subtle with p79 and i’m deifnately noticing stronger reactions from the target than self-reactions. so with my good IS/p79 hits, it wasnt making ME feel much different, i wasnt really projecting a more “feel good” vibe than i normally would, but boy oh boy, SHE definately was vibing the “feel good” qualities of IS a lot more than if id’ve worn it alone. similarly, if i’m in a bad mood, p79 for some reason isn’t profoundly extending the bad mood, but yes, if the targets in a bad mood, she’ll definately be more argumentative. 1 of my best mates, whose normally a smart arse and button pusher, becomes that much worse when exposed to p79 - so ive stopped wearing it around hi.

[Phya]

@mahalo_silver

Thanks for the support Phya,

yep i agree thats p79 also extends whatever emotions you’re feeling or vibe u r giving off. with me, this is subtle with p79 and i’m deifnately noticing stronger reactions from the target than self-reactions. so with my good IS/p79 hits, it wasnt making ME feel much different, i wasnt really projecting a more “feel good” vibe than i normally would, but boy oh boy, SHE definately was vibing the “feel good” qualities of IS a lot more than if id’ve worn it alone. similarly, if i’m in a bad mood, p79 for some reason isn’t profoundly extending the bad mood, but yes, if the targets in a bad mood, she’ll definately be more argumentative. 1 of my best mates, whose normally a smart arse and button pusher, becomes that much worse when exposed to p79 - so ive stopped wearing it around hi.

NP, we’re all here to expand our knowledge.

I’m thinking that perhaps your self effects aren’t as pronounced because you’re consciously holding yourself back, whereas your targets probably aren’t apt to consciously hold back, they simply might ‘feel’ a certain way ‘unusually’ or perhaps ‘not so unusually’.

[smell_yummy]

@mahalo_silver

so , had a bad time with p83/p79…and my friend had played with 203/79 combo with bad results too. The asian girl i tested it on was initially responding OK to a 2 IS/p79 [2 sprays of 10mcg] mix, but wanted something to arouse her more, and going on a Tacitus lead that they may combine well together, i added 2 p83 [25mcgs]… well for me they didn’t. extreme OD type reaction - ghosted me out and agresively argumentative and "just take me home"type reaction. i see the problem though. at 1 p83 [12.5mcg], the p79 had already amplified it to double…so 2 p83’s, and perhaps its more something like the equivalent of p83 at 50mcg…and at higher doses, p83 can play out quite agresively, simliar to a none OD.

TRICKY ELEMENTS OF COMBINING 79 with other pheromones:

so this is the tricky thing with adding p79 - it makes Instant Shine amazing and always. and then again, it could make Instant Honesty waaay too serious. and then again, it works well with A314 when Instant Openness or IS r added, and it CAN make Ammo amazing …if u have laid off none for a while …,

and then u wear it after a few days gap, add p79, and …baaang! purrfect. but then i wore ammo/p79 on another occasion where id been wearing none for 2 days straight, and a bad OD again.

and on its own , it can do damage. i conclude that its best worn with Instant range fare - IH at low dose, IO, and especially IS. dosent overly combine well, for me atleast, with p83, or 203…works well with 103 though or, theoretically, any Androsterone variants.

IT IS INDEED A VARIABLE, ECCENTRIC AND ERRATIC PUTATIVE

Interesting effects, I didn’t know much about this putative:o

[jnoel]

Thanks man, great report. I think I used it Saturday night and I amplified way too many mones. I will use it sparingly now.

I may try an ammo/is/p79 mix tomorrow

[CoolKat]

@jnoel

Thanks man, great report. I think I used it Saturday night and I amplified way too many mones. I will use it sparingly now.

I may try an ammo/is/p79 mix tomorrow

that is a GREAT combo… just don’t overdo it…
I wouldn’t go over 2 shots of ammo or IS or over 5mcg of p79 until you have better idea what each does and how they work for you