My standard dating night phero combo (for a while, anyway) is one spray of P90 10mcg to my neck, subdued by one drop of A314. I imagine the oil in the A314 slows the release of the P90. I’ve found it to work very well in getting women attracted and engaged in flirtatious conversation with me.
Well, the other night I had a woman ask me out to a show with a strong sexual theme, so I thought I give P79 one last try. Unfortunately, once again the P79 seemed to have more of a repellant effect. I thought I’d been asked out on a romantic date, but my date kept giving me more physical space than with other guys she knew (she knew a lot of people, male and female, at the show) to the point where I thought she had asked me out of an obligation (I’d done her a favor) rather than a romantic interest. So I started flirting with some of the other women (including one I knew and had gotten frisky with before) and they, too, were giving me extra space. This is exactly what I’d seen before with P79 alone: women give me more than the usual amount of space. Not exactly what I want on a date.
I talked to the girl days later, saying she seemed not to be interested in me, and she said that was not the case, she was just feeling weird that night. I’ve seen her since and she’s been much more comfy cozy with me. I blame the P79 for her “feeling weird that night.”
Provide what you feel comfortable with but… Would be curious to know whats your ethnicity and age vs your female interests? Do you find you naturally have a welcoming vibe or more-so stand-offish? Some other detail you think contributes?
On more than one occasion I’ve had women I’ve known, who were comfortable with me, some romantically interested in me and some not, get out of their seats to move further away from me. I’ve asked them later what that was about, even offering that maybe they didn’t like my cologne (though I wasn’t wearing anything but pheros) or that I need to switch antiperspirants, and they all denied it was anything they were conscious of.
I’m a 40+ white guy, and these women were romantically interested in men my age in general, whether or not they were interested in me specifically, and except for this last one, I was not interested in them romantically. (I don’t really know how old they are, but I know them well enough to know who they have dated.) I’m neither super welcoming nor imposing. Generally calm and chill and I guess a little aloof.
I think P79 creates some kind of strong impulse, but needs a lot of directing. Without direction, it just causes agitation that people want to get away from. Unlike most pheros, I don’t notice any self-effects from it, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it were (an analog of) a male phero that mainly affects women.
Yeah this is a very interesting observation, I’ve yet to have results with it as well but nothing concrete in a negative fashion. It might be that it pairs up with some of the other very apparent P’s by steering them or being steered…
Have you tested P90 on it’s own?
I wonder if it’s a combination of the putatives and/or A314.
I find P79 makes me emotionally sensitive, and slightly changes my perception of myself to slightly needy. If I use a stronger androstenone for the self effect, this is negated and I get only the positives of p79.
Yeah, I’ve experienced the repellent effect of P79. But I’ve had women attracted to me when using it with my mixes as well. I’ve still not concluded whether or not it’s worth it to use it.
Try using this if you have them P79,P74, and AMMO. IS, IO, and P79 might work well too or other FEEEEEL GOOOOD pheros. I am a strong believer that you need a super friendly vibe coming from yourself mones or personality to negate the “hot” and “cold” reactions you can get from P79. IMO P79 is a hard one to use without using the right combination of things or steering molecules. I personally use the first one above regularly and it’s P79(5mcgs), P74(15mcgs), and Ammo Heavy(1-2 sprays) They are all scented in F22 if you care
kSage, I agree with Tisha. I have mentioned this in my report on Club mixes, never use p79 with TUTH, women run for the hills . Use Ammo with p79 instead. With A314 you need a friendly pheromone added before using p79 otherwise ladies are very intimidated (you could try increasing the amount of p90 in your case if you are going to add p79 to A314). I personally like the A314 + p74 + p79 (affectionately dubbed the WIN mix). p79 also works well with p93, p86, p83 and a few others.
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My description may have been lacking, but I remember the look on the girls faces. It was not of giving me respectful space. They were slightly pained in a different way.
I don’t have much p79 left as I got rid of almost all I had, but I’ll give this combo a try. How much p74? Why do you like p74 better than p83 for this mix? In general I like p83 better for flirting.
As for mixing with Ammo, I don’t like the Ammo scent to begin with and then mixing it with the neroli in all the other mones just makes it worse. I really don’t use Ammo for anything.
Did you she make contact with you after the date or did she show no interest? I mean if she’s giving you more space than all the other guys she’s just friends with maybe there’s something more to this. It could be how she responds to attraction in general.
I too can vouch for 10 mcgs of P79 being ineffective and even bad in and of itself. I have not tested my home-made MX292 without P79, but my guess is that it would make little to no difference.
Yes, I’ve tried P90 on its own and the P90 + A314 combo. They both work fine. P90 seems to create a positive increase in energy level in both cases. I haven’t noticed any bad reactions to it.
. Use Ammo with p79 instead. With A314 you need a friendly pheromone added before using p79 otherwise ladies are very intimidated (you could try increasing the amount of p90 in your case if you are going to add p79 to A314). I personally like the A314 + p74 + p79 (affectionately dubbed the WIN mix). p79 also works well with p93, p86, p83 and a few others.