Intergalactic! Now that’s an adjective!
If i’m right you did spray SMW over MX353 .. is this correct ?
did you have some reminder from wearing other stuff the days before or even the same day ?
XS is using really unusual molecules that are sticky like hell .. hence the Allo-something drama ..
Steve uses Thodoc?s in most of his mixes .. THDOC’s ( Alpha and Beta ) are sticky like hell as well and will glue to your skin several days .. maybe this influences the whole thing as well ..
MX353 needs some congruence on the effects it makes .. hence there is a learning curve !!
this is not a social product !!
self effects wise it’s one of the strongest products out there .. maybe 2 sprays were an overdose .. go lower next time and see what it does to you !
in my opinion it was the SMW that you used as a cover .. i had this problem many times in the past with colognes by Bulgari and Armani and even Hermes .. even with GIT by Creed .. spray the cologne not over the mones products .. somtimes it works .. but i learned it the hard way that the fixatives in the colognes kill the effects !
and you never know what they put into the colognes .. there are too many substances out there that have mone like qualities .. from some commercial stuff it’s even known that there are mones put in ..
Pago
hey Pago ![]()
Actually, SMW was a base layer but I’m also very particular about making sure that where I spray the cologne isn’t the same spot as the pheros. I’ve done this before with no adverse issues with AD’s stuff before, though to be fair, their neroli does smell good enough on its own.
Steve’s stuff has always worked for me in the past but yes, they do get quite sticky. I’ve been using Witch Hazel to clean app points and hadn’t used anything in a few days other than XS99 (also cleaned after usage). That said, I won’t deny the possibility of residual pheros.
True on congruence though the way I learn is based on observation of effects. I can’t learn a curve if I don’t see effects. Like I said, this has to be the first product that AD has released that I’ve seen no effects from at all. That said, it may work for others, may not for me, but if I don’t see results (good or bad) I won’t continue usage.
Well, what we do know is that the vast majority of known or experimental pheros are derivatives of hormones, known pheromones or steroids (androgens, annabolics, etc), to the best of my knowledge, those aren’t found in most colognes. Again, it’s possible, but I doubt it. The problem here is there are too many “What if’s” for my tastes. The last “Non social” product that I used from AD was UF and UF2. Even those, I would notice some effects, both on others and personal as well. Now, I don’t want others to be discouraged (sorry Kimba) as this is just my personal opinion but after seeing beloved products vanish despite the demand with the only excuse of “We need to move forward in innovation”, known situations where products lose their effectiveness after several batch variations then trying to BS their way through things, the rev31 debacle from A314, etc; I’m obviously a bit cautious as to the truthfulness of what AD offers these days. I went on a limb with this product and it’s just the final nail in the coffin for me.
Maybe it does work and it just doesn’t for me. We’ve all see that. All I know is that I won’t continue to use this product.
@Kimba: Don’t discount what Pago has to say as he’s had some brilliant observations over the years. It’s my personality type (business managerial type) that I expect results, good or bad. It’s also possible that this crap is just not what I prefer working with.
Sounds like P96 effects!
Possible but too soon… ![]()
This is from trying MX353 once at daytime @ 1 (togo-) spray.
So I put the spray on before getting some breakfest at the bakery shop. First impression of the scent is that it is really almost overpowering. It’s very very strong and aftershave-like. The woman in the shop asked: ‘Leather shoes?’. Probably she meant if I put some chemicals on them. Though once the scent started to die down, hits picked up.
Self-effects were pretty good, as in you getting into a upbeat, go-get’em mood.
When I arrived to class, I was sitting next to a black guy and a brunette girl. A little later the guy noticeably scooted away, while after like 5-10 minutes the girl started to play with her hair, cross her legs, etc. She was the only girl in the room showing hair-play etc. Pretty obvious signs of attraction/excitation if you ask me. While other mixes occasionally provoke stronger reactions like that, this was still pretty impressive for daytime. The guy seemed to relax after a while, and we chatted a bit. Maybe my aftershave-y smell still was a little strong when I entered the room.
Now the most impressive hit was when class was over. There was this tall, maybe slightly arrogant girl I tried to chat up a little while ago. She didn’t really seem into me. So I was waiting for something, staring out of the window, and I swear she was packing her bag in slow-motion. She was waiting, waiting, waiting, until I left. Then she left, too. She was following me through the whole building. She was walking straight towards the elevator, stood there for a sec, saw me taking the stairs and decided stairs may be the better option after all. I gave her a glimpse, but she didn’t make eye-contact. It felt to me like she didn’t really know why she was following me, but somehow had to.
Then in the subway there was another girl, who walked past me, turned, looked into my eyes, smiled and said: ‘I’m leaving next station.’ Don’t know what that meant, but it’s very rare for a girl to start any kind of conversation/word-exchange with me in the subway.
Pretty impressive hits for daytime, I got to admit. Though this may be an even better fit for nighttime/clubs.
Magic 353
First app was at work. Initial thoughts are this mix is super attractive around women! Especially on women who are not normally hit by mones In an overt way. One coworker (50) was exceptionally touchy with me. She is normally a tad, for lack of a better term, female dog like. She was apologetic and flirty.
Another co worker (45 African American) was very abnormally helpful. She moved very heavy items with me which is totally out of character. She also giggled like a school girl at bad jokes or things she thought were jokes.
I was also encouraged to leave early if I wanted too and my coworkers would finish the work for me, never has happened.
So far this is an A +.
My new guitar came in today, so I take it to Sam Ash (guitar store) for a guitar tech to check out before the probation period rans out. I applied six drops mx 353 to neck and behind ears with wrist. Something that stroke me kind of odd was, that after a couple minutes of talking to salespersons (all guys), I founded myself alone. I didn’t think much about it at the first music store, so when it happen at the second music store, I started wondering about what was going on.
I’m pretty sure that there could be a lot of other underlying line factor involved, but it just stroke me as odd.
More testing needed
Great post Wyatt. Fallout effects from MX353.
From what I’ve read before I thought this was more a hard hitting club mix. With all the good reports I’ll probably buy this one next month.
Seems like these girls are definitely feeling it, but are afraid to show it and end up e-mailing you afterwards.
Maybe increase the P83 in the mix a bit for faster results? ![]()
Sure man .. of course fallout effects with 353 !
This is the beauty of this mix that the girls you picked up with it do nearly not flake when it comes to dates later !
You got the dosage right somewhere between 2 and 3 sprays ..
the best way to describe it is when the light drunk effect kicks in … then you got the dosage to the point of major hits in the clubs !
This mix is not for the shy and timid .. women are obviously showing you that they are interested … but when you’re not on your A-game you wont pull them with that mix as well .. sry guys but it will not do all the work for you !
Wyatt made a fantastic post .. in fact the girls do miss you and fear that they will loose you !
Women in clubs search your proximity .. this stuff is high status .. and the hottest women send you IOI’s ..
you have to adopt your game to MX353 .. it puts you into some hunter mode but on the other hand it makes you very very very picky !
The amount of IOI’s from that many women is a bit distracting i tell you ..
there is a bubble you’re in with MX353 .. some kind of your own movie ..
Other guys notice that you are HOT stuff .. so be aware of this and that they try to act faster then you because they need to .. to have a chance ..
stuff sticks really long on the skin and even the other day you get great status and respect hits with all kind of people ..
keep this in mind when you test the other day with other stuff ..
Pago
Thanks Pago!
Yet to take it to three sprays, been playing with 1-2. The good fallout e-mail hits are at 1.5 to 2. I get IOI around that point from the odd woman. It’s different than a rone based product (my guess is there is no rone in this).
As for night game/game with this mone, how do you describe it?
With MX297 I’m the over the top, hilarity guy, loud and mega social and will approach everyone equally. Did my MX297 skit with this on and it was working, but nothing great (my night game needs work as is).
Nope, no rone in this one:
Wearing it today to the auto show. We shall see how this goes.
Guys, everyone who tested this formula knows that this is never MX353, the current one.
Why would AD release it under the same name then? Confusing.
What do you think is in te current MX353?
Sry guys this is a review thread .. we had this kind of endless discussion back in the days ..
i’m not convinced that the formula in the link is MX353 .. at least it did not work for me ..
You peeps can all compare now .. buy the singles listed in the formula and try it …
Pago
I asked about this and P86. My question was really sidestepped. Alright, if you’re listening Brian, let me give you a straight opinion. One I’d rather not write and you’d probably rather not read. If it’s not a valid formula or 353 doesn’t have P86, just please say so. If you can’t comment, just “no comment” is acceptable. The A314 Rev. 31 wasn’t so much an evil conspiracy as just poor communication. But some were so jaded by that, to this day they won’t believe that Rev. 32 is OK. Everybody wants clean, unbiased data. But people who do the testing also want data useful for their own mixes. I honestly don’t understand the point of ever un-blinding that formula. I kind of thought 102 might have added some kick to the formula. All the 102 freebies and every report I see is lackluster at best. Honestly, any type of miscommunication like this is not the way to start 2014. There’s not a day I don’t consider abandoning putatives altogether for the likes of Xist or a top-rated pre-made mix.
The goal of attracting research students and more science content will not happen this way. It’s actually pushing me away entirely.
I have tried the posted formula as well in the past without P86, thought it was nothing special, at least not like what people are reporting. Unless including P86 makes a significant difference in the mix.
I never tested the original or previous variants nor the posted formula so I can’t compare them.
I AM getting levels of fallout (without the friendship vibe) that I’ve yet to do with a mix of my own creation or other products, but I’m still very much a newb.
Once I know how to work this I’ll comment more, but my night game outside the bedroom sucks.
As for that party, the one lady has invited me to her house for dinner in a few weeks (she’s as bloody busy as I am in RL).
I’m starting to treat this stuff with respect as I don’t want to cause fallout with unintended targets…
So MX353 is the old MX292? Interesting that you find it useful for business!