The OFFICIAL MX405 Discussion Thread

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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What is MX405?

Mixes inspired by Come Talk to Me Mix 2 (CTTM)

Fragrance: Neroli
Effects: Social

This experimental mix pack is three different plays on the original and beloved CTTM formula.

Status: Currently In Production

Get MX here: https://a314.com/

Quote from original Release Thread [July 7th, 2011]:

How to Test:

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness & Consistency - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS
Research Assistant
Androtics Direct

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I’m musing on the A314 with the MX405…

The serious vibe of the A314 oil could have put a damper on the response I may normally find with MX405 by it’s lonesome. This is all speculation of course, as this is my first run with MX405. Not sure what to expect from it.

I tried some MX405 again (washed my hands thoroughly and then 2 sprays to the tops of my hands) this PM and a friend that I met up with was a bit serious. The theme of our convo’s were on the serious side with me trying to lighten the mood a bit. I’m usually like that, getting others to see the silver lining, if possible.
I mean, if it’s hit the fan, then, I’ll help clean it up. But, sometimes people blow things up in their mind and need level headed thinking. I’ve been there as well, with others, especially A, bringing me back to my senses.

Well, I got interrupted by a couple of phone calls while with him, but, things went well in the end. Did the convo’s increase because of this MX or the depth of them? I don’t believe so… as I have him as a long time friend and he was looking to off load somethings on me. This was the reason for our meeting this PM. So… can’t say for sure if it greased the communications as his intention was to talk…

Well, I’ll give this another try without the A314 in the mix and see what responses I get with it…

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July, 26th, 2011

1 spray (CTTM2) Test Pack, MX405 aka Instant ‘Lets Joke About Everything’

(Split between wrists, back of wrists)

Outside Temp: 93F, Inside Temp: 75F

This CTTM2 Test Mix is interesting thusfar.

I sprayed it on, and for the first 5 minutes, I felt extremely jubilant - overly so, in fact.

Went driving to get a haircut (perfect place to test it!)

I went in the salon, and at first everyone was quiet: There were 3 women there
that were cutting hair.

Suddenly, the girl cutting my hair started yacking to me, telling me about how her kids were at the salon and hated being there, and how she couldn’t take them to her moms house because her dad is in the hospital, etc…

I think that would qualify as a hit.

THEN, over the course of time, all of them started talking on and on and on about random stuff, starting with their nails and ending with shopping and how most guys hate shopping.

The girl cutting my hair talked about how she wanted fake nails but couldn’t wear them because she can’t bait her hook (Apparently she likes to fish,) although she almost seemed to make an innuendo out of it :open_mouth:

This one girl there, started talking about how she wasn’t a girly girl even though she looked like one, and they all started sorta picking on each other (Almost as if competing for dominance in a lighthearted way.)

I found that when I steered the conversations, they’d turn in that direction.

This mix is still effecting me, at 1 spray. 2 sprays tomorrow should be even more amusing!

Todays test felt like this one is lighthearted, fun, and funny but with some deep personal info (TMI) given out, and a lot of subject hopping.

Maybe it has Molecule A or IS, IO, and IH in it?

CM

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Right now I am rocking MX405 @ 1 spray
Been to one class thus far, haven’t seen too much and obviously scuttling outside across campus kinda kills my cloud :confused:
I am trying to hit up the Food Court and a Coffee Shop in a bit so hopefully some hits there!

My classes are pretty much dank, I don’t have the most social bunch of people in my classes except for a few (like 3~5 out of 15~35) nor do I really want to talk to some of them…Not to be judgmental or rude but seen talking to some of these kids would hurt a status I am trying to build. However I have gotten several looks outside, but looks and approach isn’t the same thing…
Be back later with more info on this, I never used CTTM before but have played with IO and IH.

See ya in a bit!

Just conclude, I didn’t gather any further evidence! :frowning:

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Mx 405-407

Been having some respect vibes from A314, but one of the challenges with it is that people show you respect, that means you have to do all the approaching. I’m going to be going to two different conferences in two different locations and not going to know anyone, so I figured that I’d like to try to get more people to approach me. I’ve read about CTTM, and apparently these 3 MXs are supposed to do the job better. I’m going to be trying all 3 of them solo, and with combinations of P83, Summer AMMO, A314, and TUTH just to see what happens, I’ll then share the results here.

Tonight was the first night, just one and a half sprays of MX405 before a meeting with the group I’m going to the first conference with. Had a solid conversation with someone as we were waiting at the elevator, found the small talk easier than I normally do but who knows how much of that was related to the mones. During the meeting was getting some little IOIs from the girl sitting next to me. Most interesting was waiting for the elevator the security guard (who was just getting off) gave me a sudden and kind of weird greeting, like too friendly, then he pulled back. Not sure what that means. Anyway, interesting start, will keep updating this thread.

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Pheromones tested:
3s mx405 to front and sides of the neck

Location:
House Party - ages early 20s to early 30s

Environment:
Room temperature

Self-Effects:
None. I rarely get self-effects, so nothing unusual.

Effects:
I was invited to a house party by the friend of a friend, so I figured this would be the perfect environment to test the cttm pack since most people there would be strangers to me. I apply 3 sprays mx405 about 20 min before I arrive at the party.
As I get there the host is super friendly and happy to see me and he says so several times. I say hello to a few people and I get to a girl I know a little bit and she just goes into full chatty mode. Tells me about a documentary she has seen and a lot of other stuff. Since i had hardly arrived, I cut it short and go on to meet the other guests.
Later on I am sitting with a friend a little apart from the crowd having a normal conversation. Suddenly one of the two hot girls at the party comes and sits down next to us and introduces herself. Turns out she doesn’t know anyone either and is just accompanying a friend who was invited. We have a very nice chat for about 20 mins. and talk about everything under the sun - she’s really cool. It was a very friendly vibe although she did seem a little flirty a times.

Age Range:
strongest hits mid 20s

Length of Effects:
~3hours

Range:
2.5-3 metres

Summary:

  • fun vibe
  • effective
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I tried the MX405 this weekend with interesting results. I put two sprays on my wrists and my normal dosage of A314 as I wear it daily I didn’t want to change too many variables.

Strength: I’d say 8 out of 10. I noticed a lot of people around me were affected and almost everyone showed some reaction.
Self: I felt more open and talkative, but also kind of uppiddy. A very happy me, and I laughed a lot.
Others: I noticed lots of talking and openess. Great conversations and lots of laughter. Other people were also very receptive of me and a number of glances and looks

Length: I’d say it lasted about 10-12 hours, it seemed like it was wearing off and then I’d be in a room with someone who had not been around and I could see it start effecting them. After work I was at a doctors office and the nurse just started going on about everything, opening up about her personal life and all. This was the first time I had this nurse so I wasn’t sure, but when the doctor came in, I confirmed that the MX405 was still kickin’ in high gear.
Note: on long term use (over a period of 5 days) I noticed the effect seemed to wear off the more I used it. So I’m probably loosing sensitivity to it. Not sure if it was that or just a long weekend.

Tenacity: I noticed almost no fragrance, it was very light and pretty much stealthy.

Effectiveness: Highly effective, many people in my area were affected and probably withing a 10ft area…

Diffusion:Seems to be an area affecter. It was not like a line following me, but more of an area around me. When I was walking people 10-12 feet in front of me would turn, smile or say hi, some would actually approach and start a completely random conversation (ie different than our normal conversations)

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I just got my delivery of my CTTM2 test pack. I decided to do my first phero bath with MX405.

Eight sprays all over. Chest, neck, back of neck, wrists, and hair.

Whoa. I feel like buddha. I’m a bit tired, but it took care of the coffee jitters I had from drinking three cups this morning. I am literally at peace with the world.

It has thus put an interesting peaceful smile on my face. People are very friendly with me right now.

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To keep this short, if a person is not a close friend to me, I always find it hard to keep a conversation going. I’ll always feel like I have to come up with something to avoid awkward silences. Today, I had an event with a lot of people attending (people I’m not close to at all).

Applied 2-3s and half from MX405. And I met this guy that I knew from before but didn’t see him in ages. Usually, I would say hi and just eject. This time, this guy couldn’t shut up! I was getting kinda annoyed :stuck_out_tongue: He sticked for so damn long(almost whole night). He leaves, 2 other guys that are my brother’s friends. Can’t stop talking again, and we hit it off pretty well. Never did I feel like runnin out of things in both instances. This is why I’m sayin this might be my fix :cool:

I know this might sound gay to some of you, but trust me this kind of stuff don’t happen to me at all since for some reason I just don’t hit it off pretty well with guys sometimes :stuck_out_tongue: And just to make some of you happy, I did get nice amount of IOIs (not sure me or my bro who had IG + IS though). Didn’t really open any girl though since the environment wasn’t suitable (church event btw). Will give this another test when I can.

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Day two

mx405 2x sprays
app points: sides of the neck.
Location: Mom’s house.
Subject: Mom.

Nothing out of the ordinary minus once again, I noticed that the flow of conversation went much more smoothly, as if the mental chatter/buzzing had gone away. The only time I’ve encountered this so far has been with p97.

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I started the day out with AMMO x 2 (World edition, 6% cologne strength), IS (1 spray of 4x strength on my for arms) and IG x 2. Now, this is a cool, relaxed and confident guy vibe that I like. Going out with some friends and my A.

Now… I had MX405 in my car, and about 1 hour after my initial mone application, I decide to apply, x1 spray to the tops of my hands. Just for giggles, I think… Of course, I WILL try this out with it by it’s lonesome…

I had applied the MX and within 15 minutes I was speaking with a friend. We were in the car together and after saying hello’s, my A and her young friend were in the back and he was in the front seat next to me. As I was driving, within a minute of taking off for our outing, this guy, about 10 years my junior, started Blurting out so many things, it was incredible. We get along, and if he’s talked to me about some things, he’d do so in private when the gals are away from us. He tells us he’s sorry about his verbal spillage about his drinking and drug use relapse as he’s trying to sober up and a death in his family(happened about 3 months ago) has him all torn up… and continues and continues… about his feelings about his family and friends, what he thinks about their attitude toward this death and … is GOING all out.
He tells us that he just feels so comfortable and we are so inviting to him so tells us how he’s feeling and what he’s been doing. I talk to him and listen… more listening than talking… when we arrive, the gals also talk to him some and continue off as they see that we both will be talking extensively. And that’s what happens.

I mean, we were nice enough, with our hi’s and greetings but, for sure, not to the point of having him blurt EVERYTHING he was worried about, thinking about and feeling, to us.

About a few months ago when I went to visit him and his family about his loss, he opened up some. But, that was in private and not everything like this time. At the time, I believe, mones wise, I used IG and IS. Since then, I’ve spoken with him many times and gone out together as well. So, it’s not that he didn’t have the opportunity to discuss his feeling with me at a later time as well.

This hasn’t happened to me with any MX or Instant line… it had an earnest feel to it, a deeper IH, if you will. In his case more of a psychological flavor to it, a bearing of one’s soul. It was a RELIEF for him, I could tell in his facial expressions, to unload like he did. I/We in the car, were taken aback, by his sheer openness and sincerity.

AMMO, IS, IG DO NOT get anywhere NEAR this result EVER! If I could compare it, IH is the only social that comes close… and my experience with IH is a pale comparison to what I experienced this time. Several factors are involved, for sure, however, it was a very peculiar experience!

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So, decided to give this lovely batch test run. First up on the line:

mx405. 2x sprays
app points: sides of the neck.
venue: inside at my waxing lady’s place.
Target: Woman, blond, early to mid 40’s, attractive.

Granted I do find her attractive but nothing more than a casual interest. A bit of a background here. I’ve been seeing her for almost a year now and she is good. Very fast, bit of a sadist but with an excellent, no nonsense personality. So just prior to arrival, I tossed on two shots and head inside. With the usual meet and greet, she gets to work. I’ll spare the details that need not be explained, however what I did notice is that while we usually have a good conversation most of the time, this time around, the flow of conversation was very smooth, easy going, I could remain a bit more focused despite the pain. As for her, well, she’s always been very open and chatty as well as not always being receptive toward pheros, but overall it was a good experience. I am wondering if there is either some p102 or TAL in this mix, as I do note that my attention was much more focused. Case in point, while the procedure does hurt, this time around I was very much aware of the pain, much more than previously. So far I like this mix :slight_smile:

PS, I know that this is lacking some specific details but ma brain isn’t runnin too good right now :stuck_out_tongue:

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MX 405 report

Day 1

I start with 2 sprays on neck 1 left and 1 right. I immediately notice I am more bubbly and happy and talking more. Within 10 minutes and I feel more vibrant and open. The wife is more affectionate than normal and is coming obsessed with holding my hand. We go to eat breakfast and everyone that comes within about 10 feet looks for a reason to talk and say even strangers. So a great day.

Day 2

I wear 2 sprays on neck left and right. I decide to wear IS in my hair 2 sprays 1X and 2 sprays P74 2.5 MCG 20% Himalayan scent on my wrists.immediately wife becomes very talkitive and overbearingly affectionate. I feel like I did one day 1. We went to in laws house to visit. Everyone is chatty and looking at me to take the lead in conversation. The conversations seem really in depth and like everyone is connected. I am guessing this is the p74.This MX lasted around 8 hours and the IS and P74 wore off and this MX is still kicking.

Day 3

I wear 3 sprays this time on neck left, right, and center. I wait 10 minutes and spray my midnight for men by bath&bodyworks over this. Go to local bar to shoot some pool with some friends. Again everyone that comes within 8 feet starts chatting with me. This seems to work on men and women white, Hispanic, and Indian. So this does very well on all ages and races. Here is a very cute waitress whit about 30 and curvy blonde. She keeps trying to talk to me which I don’t mind but I have to remind her I am married a few times. After a few hours I decide to leave and she tries to give me her number but I am respectful and I remind her I am married. So a great night.

Strength is great and strong but not overbearing

I got 8 hours out of this MX which is more than usual

This thing seemed to have a range of 8 to 10 feet