The OFFICIAL MX428 Reporting/Discussion Thread

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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What is MX428?

MX428: Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2).

We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the fragrance-free pheromone products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you!

The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.

Status: Not Currently in Production

Request MX428 here: RequestMX@androtics.com

How to Test:
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity- Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness& Consistency- How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage- Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS
Research Assistant
Androtics Direct

alittle help
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sounds like my kind of mix. i m fixing to order some p75 and some nols. hope i get a chance at one of the mx428 samples. i will most def report on it

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Got mine the other day will try to test this weekend.

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Test 2#
09/30/11

MX428 application test times
Start Time 7:30 am
End Time 6:30 PM

Amount sprayed 2 every 2-4 hrs

Total spray today: 8

Location Sprayed: Mostly Neck region

Diffusion time: 2 spray lasted approximately 3 hrs, with a peak time of 45 min-1 hrs after dose, Trough of 2 - 2 1/2 hrs later, Effect wore off > 3 hrs.

Notable Self effects: focused, slow to anger, calm, and talkative.

MX428 Notations: Mild Foul odor after 4 hrs of not reapplying. Like how its lightly scented.

Below are today’s test locations.

*Environment 1 Small Laboratory type Class Room (free to roam room type)

*Time spent in Environment 1: 4 hrs started in the morning

*Number of spray: 4 (2 more to compensate the formaldehyde odor)

Air status of Environment 1: Room air was cold around 50F-55*F, also had a mild to strong smell of formaldehyde in the air, 70% of the students were wearing filtration mask due to formaldehyde.

Notations: Only got 1 hit form a girl age 19 (she told me :S) (i’m 21 btw), behaviors were little flirting around, a few touch to the arm and lots of following around standing really close (no personal space close), lots direct eye contact/stares and asking lots of questions that i feel that she already know, in other words acting very ignorant. After 3 hrs after dose behaviors stops probably due to the formaldehyde overpowering the MX428. On the way out a of class (still in the building) a stranger (young female) immediately eye contact and said Hello.

*Environment 2 Store 1

*Time Spent <30 mins

*Number of spray 2

Air status of store 1: At room temp aprox 75F, had a mild grease smell throughout the store.

*Notations:People are a little more friendlier then normal, a little more eye contact from cashier (female) compared to other customers who were waiting in line. No hits…store was mostly males(varied < 20s-60’s) with few older (>30’s) females.

*Environment 3 Wal-mart

*Time Spent <1 hr

Air Status of wal-mart: Room Temp 75F, no strong specific smell detected just your typical wal-mart smell.

*Notations: Lots of head turning as i was walking by, IDK if you count that as hits, no stranger greetings or converse though. Interesting note I left a guy trainee cashier speechless didn’t say a word from start to end didnt even say whats my total, the girl that was training him was trying her best not to make eye contact with me, looking down and never corrected his actions or say anything even saying goodbye to them still kept them speechless. :confused:

End of testing
After then i when home which concluded my second trial of MX428

Final though
I think ill try spraying on my arms neck and chest to see if it helps with the diffusion and range, next test environment, work. Will keep you updated.

END OF REPORT
9/30/11
Actros617

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Ok so please forgive the lack of research professionalism.

This was day one of testing. I guess you could say it was two in one day.

First application was about 7:00am. 2sprays one to each wrist.
Did not notice any sent to it.
No noticeable personal effect at first. I took my stepdaughter driving and I seemed to be a little more instructive than usual. I usually just kind of let her drive but she wanted to practice backing up into parking spots again today. Not sure if she was frustrated with herself or with my trying to give more pointers but she wanted to quite earlier than usual.:confused: So I dropped her off at home.

Last night the power went out and her computer would not come back on. So I went to an independent computer store to ask if they thought it might be just the power supply. Was told probably but they would have to look at it.
So I went over to Best Buy to talk to the geek squad.

{about 10:30am}
Stood there for about 15-20 min waiting to ask questions.
There where two people being helped when I got there. I’m not the kind of person that expects to be helped right away. But usually some one will acknowledge me and say that they will be with me in a min. Not one person said a thing to me until the last customer was done. There where 2 or 3 other employees standing around during this time. The employee answered my questions and I went and priced power supplies.

So at this point I’m wondering if maybe 2 sprays was to much.
So I went and washed my wrists and then reapplied 1 spray to my wrist.

Next stop was Comcast to pay my bill.
{about 12 noon}
Wow allot of people there. I had to wait 20-30 min. I was standing about 3-4 feet from the door so when the door would open a slight breeze would come in. No noticeable hits from any adults but I did notice as I was standing there a man was walking out with his daughter, about 3 or 4 years old, when she looked at me and stopped dead in her tracks and just looked at me as if in a trance.
No smile with mouth slightly open.
Her dad called her to follow him about 2 or 3 times and each time she would look at him and then look back to me. He finally had to pick her up and take her out.
Now kids that age will usually smile at me but this was strange.

Would you call that a hit from someone that young?

I had an issue with my bill and let the customer service guy know but found myself saying that “I know it was not his fault but the Corp.'s greed”. I was actually calm about it on the outside. Very agitated on the inside. Most of the time I will pop off and then later feel bad about it.

Went home and got daughters computer and took it to the first shop i went to.
{about 2pm}
Different guy helps me this time. I ask him how long it would take to replace the power supply. He said just a min. and he grabbed a power supply and sized it up and said he did not think they had one that would fit. Computer is kind of old. Anyway he then takes mine out and sizes it up again and says that it would fit. So i ask him how long it would take and he says 10 min. {side note} You can see every thing in this place and all of the work benches where full. Every one else was busy and he put down what he was working on, as soon as I walked in, to help me.
So he gets it installed and tested and blows out ALL the dust :roll_eyes: and rings me up for just under $50.:smiley: Remember I was told earlier that is would be about $100 parts and labor. Hit or no hit?

So that was my first day testing.
Let me know what you thing about the possible hits.:slight_smile:

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Hi There,

Friday I had a play with MX428 - I went over to an industrial club which I’m pretty well known. I am a bright bouncy guy always up for a party. Well dressed extrovert alternative.

Applied 1 squirt 9:45pm after getting gas, about 30mins from the club.

Smelled quite nice, though soft for some of the scents I wear. I’d had a shower before going out and apart from a light spray deoderant, nothing else.

Going out makes me bouncy. I’d had to make someone redundant earlier and so I was already working on changing my mood, so how quite it effected me is hard to tell.

Applied 2 more squirts as I parked my car. 2mins from the club at 10:30pm.
One to my left wrist, rubbed together and wiped down either side of the jaw line and one to my chest, which I then buttoned my shirt and tied my tie over.

Got to the club and the door lady is normally a grumpy battle axe, certainly to most the clientelle, I’m polite and chatty anyway and get a better reaction. However on asking how she was, I was surpised with an “All the better for seeing you” comment. It was flirty!!!

Went down to basement where the industrial room. Got a big greeting off a good friend, but he was exceptionally chatty. So was his girlfriend who I only loosly know. However she was very friendly, flirty and touchy. I was a tad uncomftable about this, though since my friend was a guest DJ and she didn’t know many people and he was often busy, it could account for some of it.

I did notice where every I stood, I soon garnered a group of people. Often strangers in the area who were chatty. Not always to me, but there was a social lubricant kind of feel to it.

I did have a fun inteligent and deep conversation with a newish friend, who while she said she had to go three or four times, kept chatting until I forced her to go (she needed the loo)

I was stood at the bar after dancing and grabbing a drink. Roasting due to warm weather and the dancing and using a sandlewood fan. I noticed that I was uncontiously wafting it across my chest and towards a couple of girls I didn’t know. They kept looking confused and looking and me and really not getting served at the bar despite it being quiet.

By 12:30am I was getting itchy to try some TUTH as having recently got my order I wanted to play. There wasn’t anyone I was that interested in left, but I’m curious. Two squirts to my left wrist, together and to the jaw line.

I got dragged back up to the dancefloor and spent a lot of the time dancing with friends. I did however get one of the girls from the bar come onto the dancefloor, start dancing and really try and catch my eye and get my attention. She even randomly hugged me for a little too long

As the club closed I returned to my DJ mate and I ended up giving him and his GF a lift to their hotel. Being invited to the afterparty. Going up to his room, having a quite open and interesting chat while his GF passed out (drunk) and other mates returned with beer. Then to the party where the whole room was on something and I was straight & sober and yet still holding my own. Don’t know if that is my character, however even for me I was chatty and felt I had more of a presence…

Drove home at 5am for an hour. Still alert and if anything going a little fast, but that could be because I needed to be up earlier than I liked (11am)

A very Interesting night !

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Day 4

What : MX428 on wrist (1 spray on each)

Where : Job (Gas station)

Feeling : Nothing special

I noticed nothing. I saw friend of mine (cute 8/10) and I noticed nothing.

My thought : The MX428 smells good, but It’s more “feminine”. So I’m not gonna try it anymore, I think.

Also, I’m starting to think that mones just don’t work. I am asking myself if this is not a scam. Because my past “hits” could only be placebo effects because it already looks like normal days to me.

Gonna still test.

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I’ve been using this now for a couple of weeks. Sometimes with one spray, often 2 and ocasionally 3.

I notice that I tend to be brighter, more energised and confident. If I am driving I tend to speed a little more and be more decisive. It is like Instant Confidence.

I’ve noticed that arround me it does a similar sort of thing. People are brighter and more chatty. Not always in conversation to me but they are more animated for about 2-4m range. A little dependant on the amount of sprays in terms of distance and the strength of the effect.

On a coach to a cruise at a festival I went on, most the bus was silent, save the couple of rows arround me. Between me and my mate sat next to me we were the centre of fun and conversation. I’ll also state that later my mate really wanted to be near me all evening and said I had a great presence. Admitedly I did have lots of ladies fauning at me.

Doing dance classes. A spray and I seem more alert and the lady dancing with me seems to have a good time. Certainly more animated.

So far it is my favourite spray and most obvious with effects. I will be upset when it runs out…I also wonder about it’s addictive properties ???

Lee

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I just got some of this as a freebie today. I’m sure others have too! I’ll start testing tomorrow.

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I started at 9:30 in the morning with 3 sprays. I put on another at 11:40. Then two drops of A314 and 3 more sprays at 2:30.

• Strength - The effects on me were very subtle. It was warm, almost hot, and I much much prefer cold weather. The stuff I learned about in math class was really difficult. I was stuck inside the basement of my dorm hall due to a tornado. Even with all that, I was in a positive mood throughout it all.

• Length of Effects - I started to notice the effects around an hour after I sprayed. I kept respraying, but I felt the effects gradually dropping around 6. I can’t really comment on when it peaked/waned because I was not around people the whole time. Therefore, I can’t really give you a good answer on that.

• Tenacity - Well, just for funsies, I sprayed one spray on each wrist before sleeping last night, around 11. I woke up around 6 and could still smell it. The smell is very laundry detergent-like. Maybe even flowerish. Even when I only had it on my neck, if I tried, I could get myself to smell it. It was not offensive at all, though. The best part is that you can spray this stuff and then go out immediately. No need to wait 15 minutes for the scent to die. In conclusion, it’s not very strong-smelling, but if you try, you can smell it.

• Effectiveness - I’d say the mix is pretty effective. I’ve found that I consistently need a higher dose and I still get more subtle hits than anyone else. Even with that into account, I was able to notice that people were in a better mood around me. I can’t really comment on its consistency just yet.

• Diffusion/Sillage - Oh boy, I’m really bad at estimating distance, time, and anything else really lol. I was sitting about 15 feet from the professor, and he seemed to be more playful (calling out people and such) than usual. I also got a DIHL look from a girl that was standing in my “trail” right after I made it. (I walked right past, then she gave me multiple DIHL looks)

I also posted about this in my journal. In the journal post, however, I concentrated more on individual hits. Here, I tried to analyze how effective the product was.

By the way, I’d say that this is one of the better things I’ve tried. I say that because most everything I’ve tried only seems to have self effects. MX428 seemed to affect others more.

I already said this, but I’ll say it again: The very light and non-offensive smell appeals to me the most. I really like that I do not need to wait to go out. With other products, I have to spray, and then wait in my room at the minimum 15 minutes before I can go out and talk to my roommates or leave to go to class or something.

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Got mine with my order this morning! :slight_smile: Will definitely test when I go out during the weekend.

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I’ve received two samples of MX428 about a month apart.
One each marked as:
Batch: ZI190068K
Batch: ZI140068

I applied one spray to my wrist & lower inside forearm and rubbed them together.

After about 10 minutes I felt more focused and had the urge to do chores around the house. My mood may have been slightly elevated but this was negated by physical side effects. See below.

Several physical side effects caused me to discontinue the tests of both samples after about 30 minutes.

Both caused:
Eye redness
Eye irritation / itching
Sinus irritation / runny nose
Slight skin irritation

I washed the area of application with soap and water for several minutes. The product is very difficult to remove, as I was able to detect the scent at about 1/4 of its original strength immediately after washing.

Please note: I am sensitive to common chemicals found in cleaners and various scented products. I would go so far to say that I am allergic to many of them. I have the same reactions to many products.

I was actually surprised when I originally tried the other non-experimental products which caused little to no irritation.

I regularly use, and will continue to use:
A314
Instant Shine
Instant Honesty

I plan on testing and using others in the future, unless whatever is causing the irritation in MX428 ends up in the other products.

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I just got some as a freebie. I’ll start testing when I get a chance. :smiley:

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I got some yesterday with my first order, wearing IS today, but going clubbing tomoro and will be trying it out. It says its TAA, which is the main ingrediant of IS, so i should like it.

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Monday, November 21, 2011

This is my first experience with MX428 by itself. I will use this mone exclusively for three days in a row, use a different mix over Thanksgiving, and then get back to using it exclusively again. I hope my experiences will help improve the product (that is, if it NEEDS improving).

Climate

Worth noting that today was misty and chilly (48 degrees F for the high).

Self Effects

I work out of the house 95% of the time, and today was no different. I tested self effects by spraying 2 sprays.. one on each wrist and let it dry. About 9am. I do like the more subtle aroma but it does have that laundry detergent smell that everybody talks about, however, it is not bothersome at all. It fades out in about 30 minutes to a smell more like a flower garden. Not a real manly scent, but it could easily be explained away if you are clever :smiley: I had a Chanel cologne on, so that overpowered the Mx428.

I know Mx428 is supposed to be very similar to IS, but from my single experience, IS picked me up more emotionally. However, I used IS in conjunction with other mones, so this conclusion is way preliminary.

Length of Effect

I got sleepy around noon. I didn’t sleep well last night and woke up at 4am and tossed and turned until 6am. I am a cat-napper, and working from home gives me that opportunity to recharge. However, I could not relax enough to fall asleep. I was pretty antsy. Then the phone rang and the idea of a cap nap was over. I was alert nonetheless for the rest of the afternoon.

Tenacity

I do have to say that the scent really lingers on for many hours. Some of the other mones I have tried have noticably tapered off in scent after 5 or
6 hours, but by 4pm, Mx428 was still very prevalent on my skin.

Effectiveness

So, if it is similar to IS, I should expect similar results, right? The only person that I was in contact with with the first dosage was my soon to be ex wife. She was in a good mood all day (maybe she is seeing somebody? :wink: ). In fact, if you read my journal, she has been in good moods since starting mones. Hmmm.

Diffusion

This I will have to estimate based on my next experience.

4:00 pm. - I have several errands to run after work, so I will be in public. I spray another shot of Mx428 on the crook of my elbow, and another on my chest.

My stbxw is now napping on the sofa. I had to go to the grocery store, but had a few other stops I didn’t tell her about that I needed to take.

The roads were heavily puddled due to heavy rains and traffic was bad. I was overly concerned about being gone to long for just going to the grocery store. Why? WHO CARE? We are divorcing anyway, right? I have developed some chronic anxiety over the last year, and I felt very anxious all of a sudden.

My first stop, everybody was friendly. Some woman was telling a story to the cashier and looked back at me and smiled. She was in her 40’s, attractive, and I guess she felt I was listening to her, so I cordially smiled back. I had no idea what she was talking about.

From there, went to CVS pharmacy. The same young checkout girl was there from last week… the one I had laid it on thick and got her cracking up. She was tending to another customer. She didn’t seem so chirpy today as last week (I guess the crack wore off?). She seemed like she was also having a bad hair day, but still very pretty. When she saw me, she immediately looked me over up and down, then looked me in the eyes. I think she recognized me. We exchanged some good banter back and forth, then I left. Nothing special.

At the grocery store, I was in hurry mode. My anxiety was up and really did not hang around to view effects. I was at the checkout line and looked to my right and there was a young female employee smiling at me… I was blocking the aisle so she can push a line of carts through.

I left and got home only to remember that my stbxw was already gone to her Monday evening class. It was as if a load of weights were lifted off my shoulders. However, a half hour later I was anxious again.

At this point I do not know if my anxiety was due to Mx428 or what. It will take more testing to be sure. I will be sure to post results daily.

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Tuesday, November 22, 2011

This is my next installment of using Mx428 alone. I am using it with no cover scent today. My goal is to notice self-effects and to see if the anxiety issues experienced yesterday was an anomaly or if it is repeated today. Second goal is to note effect on others once I go out publicly.

Climate

Clear today but still chilly, in the low 50’s.

Self Effects

I tested self effects by repeating spraying 2 sprays.. one on each wrist and let it dry. Around 9:30 am. The scent without any cover is really not so bad after about 30 minutes. It’s like if you washed your hands with some lightly perfumed hand soap.

I was a little on edge for no good reason. I felt good, but restless. Not very good for sitting at a desk trying to concentrate deeply on something. I felt like I should be out walking about. I don’t think it works for me in an office setting.

I plan on using it later before I go to the gym and run some errands. I will repeat the two sprays at around 4 pm.

Length of Effect

Five hours in and still feel effects.
**
Tenacity

Scent still noticeable after 5 hours.

Effectiveness

Soon to be ex-wife is in a good mood again. I am in a good mood. I’m not complaining.

Diffusion

Will add more later on this topic when coming home from being out.

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so far the only thing ive noticed is people trust me more, and i dont need to explain myself as much. my word is worth more. its nice

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I wanted to finish out my post for yesterday. I reapplied two sprays to my wrists at around 4pm and headed out the door to run some errands and go to the gym.

Women at the department store I go to first are smiley, but most of them are smiling as I approach them, out of the range of the mones. The thing about women is that they are very sneaky if they check you out. You pretty much have to catch them in the act, like unexpectedly turning around, or catching a reflection in a mirror. I don’t want to act like some creepy guy, so when I pass the smiling women, I don’t swing around looking at them.

Waiting in line at the checkout counter, the cashier is young at chatty, and a few older women are waiting behind me, and looks as though they wouldn’t give me the time of day.

The next stop, again, friendliness by a young woman. What is it with me and women 20-25 years my junior?

The gym was packed with people preparing for Thanksgiving. The guy on the treadmill next to me keeps looking at me, making me pretty uncomfortable.

That’s about it.

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on sunday I wore some, I was hungover, but it made me on edge. The person i was working with made me her personal theripist, and told me all her problems. All i could think about was how much I dont care and wanted to leave. might just be a random expeirience.

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Monday, December 5, 2011

My bottle of MX428 seems to only be 1/3 full today and I have only sprayed maybe 5 or 6 sprays out of it. It looks like there might be a leakage/evaporation problem. I decided to try it out alone today.

3 sprays Mx428, all on neck area around 4pm.

Climate

Damp and cold, just barely above freezing.

Self Effects

It made me a little on edge (again). Mood turned a bit sour, but no too bad.

Length of Effect

4-5 hours.
Tenacity

Scent slightly noticeable during the entire effect length.

Effectiveness

Unlike the last test, my mood was not as good. I think 3 sprays was too much. Then again, it could be the crappy weather that just won’t end.

I went to the gym, and it was loaded with women of various ages. This must not be a status mix, because I don’t feel the confident feeling of A314. A few of the guys in the gym exchange glances at me as we pass by. I was first to break eye contact. Beta characteristic. I generally acknowledge with a head nod or something.

I do notice at least three times that as I am working the machines and look up, there is a woman looking at me. For these three, it was multiple looks each. One actually was a Zumba instructor that works there who was warming up. What an amazing bod! :slight_smile: Another thing of note is that they were all 30+ years of age. The younger women would not give me the time of day.

Diffusion

Not sure because of the fans blowing in the gym, but I would guess the 8-10 foot range.