Makes sense. Why do you keep giving me new Mx’s to try? This is going to take forevor to try your great ideas and my not so great ideas.
I don’t know why, but I’ve been getting a ton more hits with this AMMO SE than with regular AMMO. I’ve noticed with SE though, my social status around other men has diminished, which I have come to realize is quite important to me also. With regular AMMO, I commanded more respect, and I felt I was often the “link” between all members of my group. With AMMO SE, I get made fun of more often, and I find I get ignored, or have to repeat myself numerous times before I’m even acknowledged.
With women though, I seem to be getting more hits from them, and every kind of hit. Eye contact, numbers, sexual hits, even got out of the friend zone with a girl.
I don’t know if it’s worth losing the male respect factor though, and I feel like adding something to the mix will ruin the effects it has on women. (My mix btw is AMMO SE, IG, IS, IO)
How old are you, Masu?
My GUESS would be the addition of IG, IS and IO. How much of each have you applying?
Have you noted the age ranges of your hits?
As long as it’s working for you, work it. 
I just started finding the sweet spot for Ammo SE today. I’m 39, white, O-neg. I’m starting with two sprays given my age, one on my adams apple and the other on the wrists (spray one, rub together).
The first thing I’m noticing is that I am really motivated to get things done. I just want to plow through my work and get it done. And yet, I’m here, posting on the board. I’ll be prowling a mall in about four hours, so we’ll see if I get any hits when it’s tapering off.
I hope to find the sweet spot before I go out for drinks with a buddy at a bar next week. I also want to find out how it mixes with TUtH.
I’m not sure if this was the AMMO SE or not but…
My son started kindergarten yesterday and while standing there waiting for the doors to open (and my wife to start crying) I was struck by the amount of moms there but it was the first day so i figured it was not a good representation of a typical day. On a whim I decided to wear a couple sprays this morning to see what reaction there may be… WOW!!!
I applied a spray to each forearm and one to both the front and back of my neck (i know it seems like a bit much but i was going to be in the open air with a little breeze) and made sure to apply outside the car before getting my son out.
The entire walk to his entry door I noticed eye contact and smiles which could be explained by a number of things (my attire, the fact that I was one of the few men there, etc.) but while on line to send him in I was surrounded with 2 minutes by several moms whom I had never met before that were chatting me up like crazy with IOIs like crazy.
Walking back to my car was even better… I passed a few of the same groups of women as before and noticed that along with eye contact and smiles I even heard one say," oh wait here he comes again" (paraphrased) followed up by “Hi” and " see you on monday morning".
Now I have had a few really good hits over the past few years with different products but I am hard pressed to remember hits as blatant and encompassing as today.
I can only hope that AMMO SE is the beginning of a new future of AD products.
Be well all
The problem I have with AS and some of these social mixes is they just get women in the mood to talk and sometimes that all you get – friendly iois and hi and hellos. It doesn’t mean anything more. And sometimes you get fooled into believing it does.
Have you heard of being FRIEND-ZONED? I would not be surprised, unless you are very alpha and masculine by nature. Too much socials in Ammo SE.
IMO, Ammo SE would be VERY good with asian girls though; however, just okay with white girls, whatever with latinas, italians, and ridiculed by black girls.
WOW… so does that mean that i shouldn’t expect to have a few of them ripping off my clothes to have their way with me on Monday morning in front of the school!!! I was really looking forward to that 
I changed my approach to AD products a while ago and am looking for hits and responses pretty much for research purposes only. For those that don’t know, I credit AD products with not only saving my marriage but with the conception and birth of my now 10 month old.
To any newbies out there… Do not fall into the false idea that Phermones will aid in mind control of the opposite sex. They will only garner you attention (of some kind) and it’s up to you to direct it.
be well all
People say mones just open the door but with some socials if your not overly alpha or masculine to high degrees the door they open is to LBFL.
In my experience the only time I’ve had success with mones beyond friendland is when I wore p75, a314, tuth, IS/AMMO, and some non AD products which I won’t post here.
It seems I need a push with mones that don’t open the friend box and these mones don’t do that.
I can confirm the asian girls part.. it’s very good with them.
First time I wore AS and wore it to Tim Hortons where all the asians worked , I got nothing but smiles from all the new faces. It definitely has more social bonding properties.
Myself I think I like IS/AMMO MUCH MUCH better as I’m over 40 and easily friended with social mixes.
Only if you steer it that way. Yes they only open the door but its what you do once that door is open that determines the results.
I think the mistake most people make is thinking the mix steers them. Its the opposite. You steer the mix.
Its like any other tool really. I can hand you a saw but if you dont know what to do with it its not going to be useful to you. Should you never use a saw then ? No learn to use it.
Attraction is not just chemical. I think people with high success rates with mones (for instance Steve or myself) they know how to read people and work with there mones to get the desired response. That takes practice though and observation.
Tisha
Mixes often DO steer people.. When I wear p75 I don’t think what to say I just SAY IT… I don’t think how to be emotionally distached I just AM.. I don’t think how to sit etc I just DO so…
SELF EFFECTS are very high with some mixes or mone products and often one doesn’t have to do very much thinking of their own..
If I’m wearing p75 and i touch a womans back and tell her she looks sexy in her tights I’ve already communicated I’m attracted and what to f*ck her. I’m naturally funny which I never am but can’t seem not to be with p75. But I didn’t think to tell her that nor do I think to touch her nor did I think how to crack a joke or if it would even be funny. It happened with P75 WITHOUT thinking. It was a disinhibitor of my own actions.
Some products you have to do all the work, with others most of the work is done for you.
If a man does all I did within 10 min of meeting a woman and she responds she will make it clear she’s available or taken. If available and you come on strong she’ll expect you jump her on the first date.. if not available p75 leaves you emotionally detached so you don’t care.
I find my best results with mones have been those that produced the greatest self effects because ACTION is what I lacked the most. Who cares if women are giving you all kinds of IOIS etc if its not LEADING in the direction of sex. With ammo summer etc I get talk, IOIS etc but its all fun and games and nothing amounts out of it because it leaves me too laid back.
If you’re very masculine, young, and a 10/10 its possible to be laid back and score but if you not these things, you WILL be friended.
Some mones , mixes leave you so laid back that if your already a laid back guy nothing will happen and no action on your part will take place.
I have stated many times on this forum I have acute bipolar. that leaves me even with less drive and initiative. Mixes which are laid back or too social get me zilch.
I agree with CoolKat, some mones your a star others and your ridiculed. Target dependence is very crucial.
P75 is not steering you. Its not creating something that doesnt exist in you naturally. Pheromones dont steer people. They dont create something that doesnt exist. Mones just cant do that. Its allowing you to release a part of yourself you tend to hold back thats all. Thats not steering thats releasing. Its not odd that you dont think about it while its occuring because mones tend to work subconsciously.
You seem to assume everyone is looking for the same thing as you. Lots of people care. Half the fun of the game is the chase. Some people goals are different then yours.
Its good you know this about yourself because it helps you determine which mones work with your personality. I am assuming this is the part your refering to by steering but you cant steer something that doesnt exist in you. Its really releasing which is why some mones are called releasers, some are called signalers and others indentifiers.
Knowing what compliments you so you can work with your mones instead of against them is important. I think because your bipolar your more aware of how mixes make you feel then most people. Self effects are fleeting for most users or nonexistant for many.
You may feel like its effortless when you wear P75 but you are making an effort. Its just coming easier to you then usual with the P75 so it feels that way to you.
It was you who was funny not the P75
It was you who touched her back not P75
It was you who complimented her not P75
It was you who was in control and steering. When you let a mix steer you, you lose control of your actions and emotions. Sounds to me like it gives you more control which doesnt surprise me because if you look at early reports on P75 you will see it engages the frontal lobe of the brain. This is where humor, initiation, emotional impulsivity, memory, sexual behavior, and judgment are all processed.
Tisha
Where are the best spots to Spray Ammo Summer edition and Instant Gentleman? and would these two even work if you mix them? but i mainly want to know which body parts are the best to spray these two to get the best results?
This thread covers about all you need to know about app points:
In addition, the neck/throat area offers the best diffusion because of its bloodflow and IMO keys-in best with your natural phero signature. So look to having the largest part of your application there but don’t get too hung-up on app points - so long as it has good underlying circulation and is open to the air, all is good.
IG and Summer Ammo go very well together, its a good youthful but still mature, sexy smart and sociable, status combo. Simply leave a minute or two between spraying each layer for the solvent to evaporate.
I appreciate that, MoboCaster thanks that really helped
Pheromones used: 2x sprays of Summer Ammo to the lower neck/upper chest
VENUE: Sold out club, NYE.
Right this was my first time using this particular version of Ammo. I’ve used other variants of Ammo to great success. First thing that hit me was the scent. Immediately a pleasant fresh, cool, empowering masculine smell hit my senses
Very nice, no need to cover up nor was it overdone unlike the standard scent. The scent is acceptable in all circumstances/situations and scenarios. A minute after spraying I made my way to my group which consisted of my best friend, his girlfriend and a few other friends.
Straight away my best friends girlfriend started playing with her hair, like really obviously. She then proceeded to get her mirror out of her bag and started to do her make up! After she had finished touching up her lipstick, she started kino with me. I was stood right next to her all the time. It was obvious that she was flirting with me(indirectly, very casually, it was very smooth and the actions she was doing was like it was all done undercover.) The kino consisted of her making the first move, grabbing my arm and squeezing it.
I could have been a bad friend and flirted back/returned kino but you don’t do that to your best friend. At this point its good to note I didn’t instigate anything here at all times, i just stood there. I didn’t speak to her nor physically touch her at any point.
I made my way onto the dance floor, after a few drinks. I noticed alot of females taking in deep breaths with their noses and generally finding my scent pleasant. After a few songs, I noticed no visible hit.
About 1hr later I was back on the dance floor. 1 girl noticed me straight away. She began to stare, and eventually she found her way to me after about 20-30 mins. She then without saying anything to me gave me the biggest hug i have ever received in a club! Definitely the Ammo working it’s magic her.She started to flirt with me like mad, but at this point i was interested in getting a drink from the bar so i left her hanging…
At the bar I noticed one girl constantly staring at me. She had a boyfriend and every time I looked at her would break a small smile! I caught her 3/4 times all in the space of 5 mins whilst waiting to get a drink. Again I didn’t instigate anything here. I paid for my drink and took no further action.
After I finished my drink I was back on the dance floor. Within a short space of time (5 mins or less) a lad dancing at the side of me, decided to dance with me. It was very odd. He started talking to me as though I was his friend, however I didn’t know who he was. He kept dancing with me and my group periodically, would then split off and then return soon after. He complimented my outfit and was ever so nice . He did this for the best part of an hour, and at one point It would seem that he wouldn’t leave. I’ve never had this happen to me in a club before.
He wasn’t gay and nor was I. Was this the secret molecules in Ammo Summer kicking in? About an hour this happened, I was back dancing with my best friends girlfriend. On the outer perimeter of the dance floor were 2 lads. Both beta males, shy, nervous, the typical beta males who stand around all night and not do anything.
I was getting more and more into the night and music as the night went on, and generally was being the centre of attention of the dance floor! It was New Years day, I was happy and dancing like an idiot, but an idiot with confidence.
Slowly but surely, one of the two beta males made his way onto the dance floor after a while of watching me, and began to dance next to me. His other mate who he was with, remained on the perimeter of the dance floor, too afraid to get onto the dance floor and watched on.You could tell he was missing out, but was too beta to do anything about it.
I remained on the dance floor untill the end of the night, and didn’t notice any more hits of females. However the beta male who had joined me and my group was now a new found man. Full of confidence and was really comfortable on the dance floor, dancing like me.He stayed the whole night with my group and had abandoned his friend.
Conclusion:
Ammo Summer, on first use is a tough one to really judge. If I had to describe it, I would sum it up being James Bond. The hits from women are there, albeit more subtle. It’s smooth, charming and silent. It works across a great range of diffusion. It made me more masculine in my behaviour and didn’t deter my standing with other males (I was still treated like an alpha)
However on the first instance, It also seems to attract males and was more effective on them, rather than on the females. It gave males alot more confidence, and made them open up alot more and lift their moods.Very effective on beta males. I’ll have to use it alot more to build a clearer conclusive picture to save final judgement.
No negative reactions from anyone, and no complaints about the scent.
My initial judgements are that it does it’s job, but you have to be VERY congruent in order to pull hits off.
Nice sharing, C!
I’m guessing that you, your friend, and his girlfriend are all around the same age, yes? In your early 20s, are you?
Thanks!
Cheers M! Yes I am 24, my best friend (male) 26 and his girlfriend (21).