OMG! I have 3 drops in my 30ml and it is funky. That is a lot of EOW. But hey…whatever works. Thank you for the info SteveO. *Jesse rethinks the EOW content in his IJ *
That’s directly from Tisha who instructed me to do that and its worked wonders
I thought IJ already had cops in it? Is there not enough as it is?
The new IJ no longer has cops
Oh I see, cheers for that 
If you haven’t figured it out, that’s me and Henry Rollins in the above picture.
While chatting with him the other night I asked him who his favorite president was and why. He responded with Abe Lincoln and recommended this address: President Lincolns Lyceum Address: http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/…lyceum.htm
Fucking Brilliant
Well tonight is my first Stand-up Gig in along time and while I’m a bit nervous I’m thinking I’ll do OK.
I’m debating A314 to build my confidence, with mad Ishine and maybe a whole bunch of IO. Lets hope it all goes off well and I don’t have to beat anyone in the audience for heckling me. I carry a glock
You could be like Andy Kaufman, turn it around, and encourage heckling… I met his brother at a screening of the movie “The death of Andy Kaufman”, they look SO similar, could he be alive?
Anyways… knock 'em dead
What a crappy night it was. I blew it and know why. MX297 ruins the day and I know why.
No elaboration Steve?
Sorry, I’m evaluating my thoughts and I might have a blockbuster to drop. I wouldn’t want to cause major issues so I need to ensure that I have my thoughts straight first!
I’m really interested on your analysis Steve. Was this your first time wearing the mix? It’s one of my absolute favourites.
OK after much deliberation and further research on MX297 I have made some interesting revelations.
I feel there are a couple of things that need to be discussed here. One was the fact that I had such an abreaction to A314 Special Edition with P90. After testing it on several occasions I came to the conclusion that it tended to not be anywhere as near as Alpha as A314 was. I was easily bothered and let the little things get to me, where as normally one of the nicest things about A314 was that it eliminated any bother by the small things. I’m quite particular and vocal about service when it comes to be waited on. I completely understand that someone who makes tips does not get an hourly wage much bigger than a couple of dollars. So I ensure that I tip very well, usually in the 25-30% range, but if the service sucks you will know all about it. With A314 I tend to let things slide.
As mentioned A314 P90 edition had the opposite effect on me, where as little things did bother me and I could feel subtle hints of beta boy poking its head through. I tested P90 by itself on several occasions and I have to admit it reminded me of TAL. I believe it’s not exactly the same but a close derivative of TAL. Now this is all simply my own research and effort to put forth my best foot. In no way do I know what any of the putatives and or MX’s are made of.
While TAL is a female orientated molecule that has ALPHA female tendencies I can see an ALPHA male wearing it coming across as very beta boy. I do not believe, again as I mentioned, that TAL and P90 are the same, but somehow they closely relate to each other. Like maybe the chemist decided to move one molecule around with another to get a similar effect but not quite the same: hence putative.
When I wore MX297 again I got a very similar effect to P90 and the A314, but not quite the same. Makes me wonder if these molecules are not closely related and as such more gear towards females. MX297 was an absolute disaster when I wore it (3 sprays) with 2 sprays of IJ. I was easily agitated and it was just a bad crappy night. I let the little things bother me, very un-RONE like! I was sitting at a couch in my favorite drinking hole and my waitress was a newer girl, who made sure I had beer. When a couple more friends showed up we decided to move to a table right adjacent where we were. Turns out it was another waitress’ table, but hey, I already had a $40 tab with the other girl and was only having one more. She wanted me to transfer the bill to her. It was a whole bunch of nonsense but I closed my tab out with my original waitress. Normally I wouldn’t have let it bother me, but I was really pissed. Even my conversations with friends were short.
We went to another bar, and again just not in any good mood. Here’s my analogy though: It wasn’t like I was really in a BAD mood, more like a little bit girly of a mood. Where as A314 and Rone have this personification of people are people and as such they will make mistakes. It’s OK and I can live with it. As an ALPHA male I have this understanding that not everyone is not up to my level and therefore I am capable of accepting them for who they are. Perhaps with my nurturing an understanding I can help them along in their journey.
I actually asked a couple of girls for numbers, and was told to give them mine instead. Guess what? No complaints, no congruency reactions, I just gave them my number. WTF was I thinking. Oh I know, it feels like I am wearing A314 with P90, except I’m wearing MX297 and it’s not quite the same. I even got invited to a after hours party by K in her back yard at 2 am. After the other bar I went back and declined because my buddy wouldn’t go with me. Since when do I need a wingman for a private party. I knew damn well what she wanted and it scared the hell out of me.
OK so I don’t just go on one trial and draw conclusions. I tested twice more with very similar results. Again though, not quite P90 ish, but very close. I decided to test some other molecules and I discovered from research notes from previous tests and current trials that what I was feeling was P91 ish. MX297 is P91 heavy IMHO.
I think a male can indeed wear it, as has been demonstrated, but one key that runs consistent throughout it is that it is best worn with A314. Perhaps P90 and P91 are derivatives of TAL which is like a Androsterone-beta one which might just be the female version of RONE itself.
Hey Steve,
Did the next two trial tests that you tested include IJ as well?
Your report made me think about a previous time I tried MX297 by itself and I was very very annoyed at the end of the night. I was downright hostile to my closest friends. I remember having the conversations briefly about something I knew I was 100% correct in and they were trying to make me look like an idiot and I just exploded in front of them and got very very hostile. I thought that MX297 might have had nols that converted to -anone or it had -anone in it to begin with anyway. By the end of this hot humid night, I was about 5 sprays of MX297 in.
The rest of my experiences with it though have been pretty positive and laid back with very good attraction based hits. Although I added IH, P83, P75 and P79 to these mixes, it could have steered it away from the P90/P91 results that have been observed. Very interesting stuff, I’ll be purchasing the P90’s test back soon so hopefully I can do some testing with that and A314 and compare notes with you.
I haven’t had much comprehensive testing with MX297 yet to make more than an, “I like it” endorsement. Glad to hear about your experiences man. Awesome!
I did notice that when I wear 297 at work that I get annoyed at the smallest things. I’m not sure if this is a 297 effect or it is because I work with a bunch of monkeys…
I have to side with this so far in my testing. I had ordered ammo world and 297 which is akuto and have never smelled either scent. I put a good shot of 297 on left top of hand. and a small spritz of ammo world came out on my right top of hand. I was trying to compare what scent i liked the best so i was inhaling deeply on each spot.
I have to agree that the reaction feels somewhat beta, yet annoyed after 45 mins or so in. I didnt feel very confident, yet ammo doesnt give me that self effect anyways like instant shine does. I felt agitated immediately after reading a post in another thread on a different forum that i am a member of. i normally never get agitated over anything in life very easily. That led me to a chat with the gf that i immediately also blew up on. I originally posted a thread and thought it may be from androsterone but looking back it is different. It didnt seem as much like i want to stand up for myself and want to be heard like i get with androsterone it was more agitation and anger. I was just agitated and snappy and felt frustrated and uneasy. I havent tested enough to find my sweet spot but seems possibly consistent with others here.
Tried it with the same mix a couple of times and then without anything except MX297. Same goes for P90 and P91 which leads me to my conclusion. I’ll be testing P92 this week to see if it fits in the same chain
Funny enough though is that too much P93 with none gives a very gayish vibe. It’s why there is only a slight bit in MX301 to begin with. It was a long standing joke between mark-in-dallas and I for a while. You can go back and read his original testing of the ICM (MX301) and he says that he added to much and sure as a cracker in cheese, he had some woman ask if he was gay.
Makes me think the whole 90 to maybe 95 series is TAH or similar.
Yup that’s my reaction too. I never get snappy from none. Usually quite the opposite, I feel good and strong, maybe even confident, but not angry.
Hmmm here’s an interesting tidbit of discovery. A pattern has emerged that women tend to sit next to you and hover around you. Maybe its because they feel so safe next to a guy who wouldn’t think if hitting on her. after all the super gay vibe you’re putting off with MX297 says it all about you.