Newbie: First post, so confused!

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Hello everyone! I am so excited to be beginning my adventure in using pheromones. I have been interested in using these since I was 13 but never had the cash until now haha.

I am a 20 year old female living in Canada, I am extrememly friendly and helpful but put off a bad vibe for some reason. I have always had a very hard time attracting good looking men (even though I believe i am very attractive) and I have a hard time making friends. I got bullied very badly in Highschool and developed a crippling case of social anxiety that I am slowly beginning to break out of.

I first heard of pheromones when I was browsing the web as a teen. I really was going to try anything to make friends. My hopes are now that I have them I will become the type of woman I have always wanted to be.

You know those girls that aren’t really particularily attractive and really not all that different from anyone else but all the men flock to? I want that person to be me. I want to be the centre of attention when I walk into a room. I have always dreamt of being a head turner and I don’t understand why I am not turning head already? I will be posting pictures of myself so you will understand my confusion. I believe that maybe I do not produce enough pheromones for myself and maybe that is why men and others do not find my attractive.

Today in the mail I recieved a bottle of Primal instinct for her and by accident Scent of Eros but I believe they sent me the male version instead of female. I ordered a package off of love-scent that was suppost to include PI, PCC and two test packets 1 of the edge and the other of alter ego.

I tried out both the PI and SOE (even tho I am pretty sure it is for men) and I did not find any results coming from it. the SOE turned me on more than anything but that’s because it smells like men to me lol. I put on 2 drops in total of PI behind my ears, on the sides of my neck and on my wrists. I also tried the SOE on my wrists.

It was nice out today so I was very only shorts and a tank. I am not sure how I should be using these products =( ahhh

I would like to attract any gentlemen that are between 20-28 and attractive. I am 5’6" 120lbs, curvy, long blonde hair, green eyed, with a gorgeous smile and full lips.

Nice to meet you all!!

Maria

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Hi and welcome, missleroux :stuck_out_tongue: That was a pretty awesome intro but can you tell us how you found this site?

Just a word on Pherotalk forum etiquette; this forum is for the Androtics products discussion. Generally we don’t name the products from other companies, other than in passing notes. Just a friendly little heads up for the future. :smiley:

Now, about the rest, I don’t know why you’re not getting the guys attention. I’m giving you a couple of links to read and get better informed as to what these products can do and some basic information which will help you formulate a plan of action:

An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of (An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration)

How To Find Your Sweet Spot

The Superior and Correct Way to Make a New Mix

The socials are a good start.

Instant Shine - gives you a shine people want to be near and stay near.
Instant Openness - personally, I’m in love with this stuff. It’s called an ice breaker mone and it promotes easy, light communication. Quantity vs quality. For me, personally, it de-stresses me.
Instant Honesty - promotes deeper interaction, bonding and conversation. Quality vs quantity.

For women, Instant Sexiness/B is awesome. I get a feeling of sexy confidence. I love the way I feel wearing this.

Read some of the womens journals - this is how we communicate here. We have a couple of experts on human interaction here and we’re all here to help and expand the body of data.

Again, welcome to the forum and plan some fun to have in your part of the continent. :wink:

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Welcome Maria!
Read How to get your GC so you can save on things to try from AD.

What I’ve been teaching myself (even before I started here or contemplated pheromones):
• Practice making eye contact with strangers on the street. It will be hardest to with the most and least attractive at first, but keep forcing yourself.
• When you DO make eye contact – SMILE. Try to make it genuine. Remember that you will most likely never see these people again, so it doesn’t matter what they think. Nor will anyone “mind” that you smile at them!
• Practice smiling at the world / day. Wear headphones with music that makes you happy; notice the sun / the millions of colors of green / the fluffy little clouds / the fuzzy ducks / the reflections in the water – whatever makes you smile. Try to find more things that make you smile. I GRIN when it rains, even when I don’t have an umbrella. I kinda like the fat drops falling on my face. It also helps when I think of other people thinking I’m nuts – I just smile harder. :stuck_out_tongue:

My point being. Get happy. Get used to smiling at everything and being happy. These things will make you more attractive. :wink:

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Hi Mari and welcome to Pheromonetalk!
First, let me assure you, you look stunning :smiley:!
I think all you need is that extra pheromone boost that will lighten up your vibe. Your natural pheromones could be unbalanced or very low. Don’t you worry though because Androtics got the solution :cool:

I would suggest you go with Instant Sexiness B. You can read more details on smartmones.com. The second product that I would suggest you buy is ISHINE. Really puts you and the people around you in a good mood. You won’t regret it.

Looking forward to read your journal so dont keep me waitin :slight_smile:

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haha oooops I guess i didn’t catch on this was site specific forum. I thought it was like a free forum for all different brands. Good too know for sure now! I will not mention those other names again lol. I was curious in trying out IS and will be buying some androtics products soon but not sure which to buy. I want something that will drive men crazy and I am not sure that this will do it. I guess I am searching frantically for some user reviews but they are hard to find. I want to make sure I am getting the biggest bang for my buck! I want to be that girl that turns heads and everyone wishes they could be like. I spent my whole life as a quite, shy and ignored child so now I feel like spending a little time in the spotlight. Oh and I found the site when I was looking for reviews on different pheromones, it just popped up in google =)

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The mones are NOT gonna do the work for you. You need to be in line with the mones; your demeanor needs to be what you want to project and don’t apply contradictory mones. In other words don’t wear IO and trying to be the Mystery Woman.

The mones are only going to add to what you got. They’ll take your game to the next level; but you gotta do the hard work. Work on you for you. To be the best you possible. The head turning thing? That’s confidence and internal. Liking yourself, getting your self esteem solid, walking with a purpose, being comfortable in your own skin. These are the things that will turn heads. And unless your walking through a crowded room; mones are not going to turn heads for you on the street, unless people are getting close.

User reviews are the journals. Real people, real experiences and real research. Fun, tho’.

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Are you sure Astrea ? Cause I’ve been around here for almost an year and I’ve seen enough discussion on several products of love sent. Primarily discussion may revolve around androtics products but i have not seen anyone discouraging another from discussing other products.

Just searched the mens section for threads titled Alter Ego, it returned 13 results.. I guess its alright to discuss other products too…

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Notes in passing. There have been at least two gentle indications of the name of this forum and who sponsors it (by mods) in the last six weeks. Notes in passing. People say ’ I have and I use’ not ‘today I applied axe to my head, neck and hands’. Difference between discussion of products and mentioning you have others. Everyone expects you to have others - if for no other reason, curiosity.

The application and experimentation on here is for AD products, so yes, I’m sure. PM Steve or Mickaelia.

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@ missleroux

I thought Primal Instinct and Sent of Eros were for Men ??

If the picture on your profile is yours.. then you may probably be intimidating men with your good looks. When a very good-looking woman is keeping a reserved demeanor in conversation.. that tend to scare men off. They may either think that you think lowly of them or may consider you snooty and even if they are attracted to you they may keep off you for the fear of being turned down.

While Instant Sexiness B would be a good product to attract men, considering your social anxiety, you may want to try out the Instant Openness, Instant Honesty and Instant Shine range too.

Instant Openness will help you break out of the social anxiety and speak freely … Instant Honesty promotes bonding and conversation at deeper level compared to the superficial effect of IO …IH hits both ways remember :wink: not just your date but you also.. Instant Shine makes you feel cheerful and the people who are exposed to it also feel cheerful
when people feel good around you, their subconscious mind keeps tab and they tend to automatically tend to seek you out :slight_smile:

So here is what I’d suggest for you

Instant Sexiness B + Instant Openness + Instant Honesty + Instant Shine

Yeah.. thats a hell of a lot of Pheros to recommend to someone who is just starting … but IO, IH and Shine are socials and would really help you build relations and bridge that distance with people while projecting a very positive and cheerful vibe..

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It is ok to discuss products sold by LS and one or two other of the legit suppliers, so SOE and Primal Instinct would be ok. Its the likes of Pherlure and other scam/oversold sprducts and the more questionable suppliers that are discouraged - not least because of the grief/threats that Androtics staff have endured from people connected to them.

However, you need to remember that using products from other firms in conjunction with Androtics products will pretty much render reports invalid for testing purposes and won’t count towards reporting user status.

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Haha oh my! Well i sincerely appreciate your suggestion but I think it would take me like a year to try and figure out how many drops of each pheromone i need to get a desired effect. From what I understand you have to play around a lot with them so I will probably just start with one or two until I figure out if they work or not and tweak them. Maybe then add in another one, But i would prefer to not have to use 4 different bottles as it will all get pricey! lol. But I guess beggers can’t be choosers so I will probably just need to learn to suck it up. Would one pheromone applied over another pheromone affect the effectiveness of another pheromone? I.E. if I applied 1 drop of IS and 2 drosp of IH one day, and say that this worked. But I wanted to also add in IO so I added in 2 drops of IO the next day, would the first two amounts need to be tweaked because I added in a new mone? Or is this just something I will have to figure out through trial and error? Any thoughts?

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The links I gave you in you introduction post answers all of your questions.

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I read every last word in those links. They answer the question to a certain extent but they didn’t entirely answer my question of will one scent making the other scent ineffective, this causing you to have to increase the amount of the other when wearing both together? I am just going to go ahead and assume I need to figure this out for myself. The advice given in the forum was good but mostly all of it was tailored towards the products that men use. I’d like to know a bit more about stuff for women. I guess i’ll start my browsing through of journals

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If I understand it correctly the only time mixing changes the efficacy is with different bases. Oil (drops) or alcohol (sprays) are the two bases, but oil products are not currently made for women, and it’s recommended that we don’t experiment with the mens’ until we’ve a good grasp on the socials and womens’.

I know the advice here is not very succinct, nor is it neatly compiled for the easily-overwhelmed novitiate. I’m happy to share all my newly-won knowledge. :wink:

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That’s why I suggested you read the womens journals. Are you talking about scents or mones? All of the Instants come in Neroli, unless you customise and that’s extra. So no, the layering won’t affect the scent. I apply stuff directly onto other stuff, stuff being different mones. The reason I do so, is because the weather here in WA sux so badly most of the time you’re still dressed in light to medium winter wear most of the year. Why is that important? It limits the amount of skin exposed to the air - necessary for diffusion.

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Haha well i appreciate your understanding. I feel like I am beginning to annoy some of the users with my need for clairification on questions they probably think are stupid. I’m still a n00b at all this and it’s kind of embarrasing!! haha. Hopefully soon I will be able to be the one helping out with some advice too! I have products from love-scent that are Oil-based and I just ordered some IH and Instant shine, do you know how these might all work together? since you were saying that oils and spray mix oddly or something..?

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Wow i have no idea why i wrote “scent” I was definitely talking about mones. I was having some discussion with my girlfriend about all this kind of stuff and I suppose I had my brain still thinking about scents when I typed this question. Long stressful day at work >..< I do apologize. i guess what i meant is do the mones cancel each other out when used in conjunction or anything like that? Therefore you need to apply more of one than the other. from what I have read no one has ever talk about anything like that happening, but I am just trying to understand as througly as possible how all this works. I feel embarrased by how confusing all this is to me and I really hope I am not getting on anybodys nerves :frowning:

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The mones layer fine, from my experience. And as I said, where I live has such sucky weather; I don’t really have an option. Otherwise I’d be limited to what I can spray on from the neck up and the wrists down. Which would leave sweet spot testing ( a number of sprays - not a location on the body) incomplete at best.

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You’re not getting on anyone’s nerves. You ask good questions, and there is no ONE reference. “The Womens’ Journals” is a huge unindexed, barely searchable compendium. Daunting to me! I’ve seen this happen in many subjects; the experts become so comfortable with the material they forget what is truly fundamental to the uninitiated.

I know I felt that I was asking questions that others must have asked before me, that there should be a FAQ listing short, straight-forward answers to individual questions, but what we have are narrative “Stickies” scattered around the site.

The only problem with layering ‘mones that I’ve heard about is overdosing (OD). I am not sure if it’s possible to do with the socials like IH, IO, and IS (shine). It is possible to do with the sexual ‘mones. You will get a null or negative effect with too much. Not as bad with the womens’, but apparently some of the mens’ are fight-instigators.

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Instant Shine and instant Honesty would not conflict with each other if thats whats you are worried about. neither would finding your own sweet spot take one year :wink:

Just wear 4 sprays of IH and 2 sprays Instant Shine, go to a cafe or your favorite hangout joint, and see what happens.. no expectations of what it would do to you… go with a clean slate.. am sure you will get a clear indications of what was out of the ordinary.. a few more applications.. you should be knowing what could be a possibly acceptable dossage for you :slight_smile:

Normally IH 4 sprays is a large dossage..I suggested that just so that you can see the results of IH prominently