Yesterday afternoon I was invited to go to a social event (I’ll spare you the details) that started at around 5 and would finish at 11. At 11 when the event was finished the plan was to go into town. This meant thinking of two separate pheromone mixes; one for the event, one for the night. Normally at an event like this I would wear something new, something experimental, something awaiting discovery. In contradiction to that when going out I will wear a solid, true-tried and tested, usually intricate mix that I know will deliver me that hits I want to see. With faced with the decision of what to wear to the event and what to take with me as a togo to refresh for the night I was undecided. Eventually I went with 3 sprays of MX272 and 3 sprays of MX292. I chose this mix because I really like the social effects of MX272 which I wanted for the event and because ‘stale’ MX292 works phenomenally well for me with the ladies. By ‘stale’ I mean MX292 5-8 hours after application. I took no togo as a refresher as I knew I wouldn’t need it. Fresh MX292 can be either a hit or a flop for me but the effects of 5 hour old MX292 are much more consistent, and actually pretty hard to emulate with other products.
Whilst I was being driven to the event I had a ‘peak moment’, or as they call it in Zen a ‘Satroi’. It was wonderful. It wasn’t as experience that was happening to me, it was just experience itself. So hard to put into words. Immediately afterwards a light bulb in my head clicked on and I knew it was p102 that was the catalyst for this experience. I’ve tried p102 tonight again solo at 30mcgs and I’ve been doing some meditation - once again another satori experience. p102 finally ‘clicked’ for me. Great pheromone and I now realise where it gets it’s tendencies to make me more chirpy and more willing to leave my comfort zone.
Sorry for the confusion. I’m tired beyond all belief, and it pained me even to type up that incoherent report. What I meant to say is I can feel the effects of p102 in MX292. I couldn’t before, but everything just ‘clicked’ yesterday.
i’m gonna have to get some higher concentrations of certain products for mixing purposes, but I’m about to be really happy making my own mutant version of mx292/353
There are a few of us who knew the elements of it and the mcgs but never really talked about it. I think we all figured it wasnt our place to tell the secret. It wasnt ours to tell.
Giants52000, I know you asked me about this,but I didnt feel right giving out info that was not 100% confirmed. Im sorry.
If you look through WF’s journal, and my journal you will see that we talked about it…but didnt make reference that was 292 we were talking about.
I guess 10mcg of any putatives would be MORE THAN ENOUGH; in fact, anything more –> pherobomb. I am going to have to start ordering 2.5 to 5mcg per spray from now, lol
Depends. Androstenol was once a putative pheromone, and is still considered putative by many scientists there’s not enough data to convince some of them. Yet doses above 10mcg are still valid. Some people even like a few hundred!
It is good to start testing at the low end, though. It’s cheaper, so you can try a few molecules instead of just 1. You get more fine grain control, too.
A little bit of a potent molecule can indeed go a long way. Many of Erox’s old patents even claim activity in the nanogram and sub-nano ranges.