Thow Some Copulins In The Mix

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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I know any results I receive from these test is most likely the combination of several pheromones, and therefore this is not a true test of copulins. For those who think that adding copulins to a mix for men is improper (as I have been docked reputation for this in the past), copulins raise testosterone levels in men by approx140% (thanks Ail!). This alone is reason to test. Androtics also uses copulins in some of their men’s products (Instant Jerk, and Pre-Release Dirty)

Now onto the tests

The bandwagon effect seems to be present in this area more so than any other place I have been. It seems that the guys who get action keep getting the action. (obvious eh? lol) Throughout high school and after graduation there was a lot of relationship trading among friends. One guy could end up dating 1/2 the girls in a social circle and none of the other girls would really care. (kind of disturbing eh?). I theorize that by wearing copulins I can appear as that male who gets the action (which I am not :confused: ) ARRRG! lol. I also theorize that in increase in testosterone will influence my actions and therefore increase my game and social presence. I am going to quote Ail and Lor on their input about copulins.

Copulins do stink! The do die down as mentioned in the women’s forum and as Ail said, check out the sticky in the women’s section if you have copulin questions. I am using a substantially small dose of couplings compared to what the females use. I have been told that the doses I am working with can and are effective (for women); and on the other side, the doses are insignificant.

3.5 mx211
25mcg betanol
2.5mcg –none
1 5x copulins

age 16-18 Female rating scale 6.3
I went to Wal-Mart during a blizzard. Nobody was out, but I did intimidate a high school girl cashier. She became very serious, then when she was saying “Thank you, have a good night” She looked at my lips twice. She had braces so it may have been a jealousy thing. lol

3 mx211 chest, tops of hands
25mcg betanol arms, chest
2.5mcg –non chest
1 shine front neck
.75 drop a314 nose, back neck
2 5x copulins belly button, chest, then rubbed on wrists after dry down of everything. So my wrists also contained some small amount of –none. I smelled to check, and they transferred.

age 16-17 (alpha pretty boy, but still masculine)
Radio shack teen male seemed nervous and very polite.

age 22-24 (female rating scale 6.9 Attractive, but could have been dressed better. Tall blond.)
Nothing substantial at the pet store, but I think my presence was acknowledged by this guy’s girlfriend. She made very direct eye contact as I was walking out behind them, and I had been beside them for roughly 3 minutes earlier in the store, and cut in front of them once saying excuse me.

age 18-late20’s (female rating scale 7.1 A shot curvy brunette with a ting of red with a few extra, but still very attractive)
I went to get coffee. I stood in line for a bit behind this older lady. When a couple came in she looked back and them, then me and quickly averted her attention back forward. It seemed as if she felt uncomfortable. I make it to the coffee girl. She is a little to friendly “How can I help you!!!” normally. She talks with a decent volume, but always seems like she’s scripted in her customer service. I haven’t seen her break what I would refer to as her character, once. I order a double zebra, and she smiles and follows her script. She runs my card and comes back. I’m expecting an overly friendly “Here you go! That will be just a second!” like I’ve received numerous times. Instead she comes back and sheepishly gives me my card. I DIHL’d the crap out of her. This girl is bubblier than Jasmin. I would never expect to see her at a loss for words. She didn’t know what to do. HA I broke the script! YES! Well at that point I signed the receipt and waited for my coffee. A younger girl was in there blabbering to the coffee girl about some boy problems (I was watching the conversation, but zoned out so I had no clue what she was saying). The coffee girl looks over at me with a smile and says, “My sisters first date.” I reply “I was wondering.” So this girl is now completely out of her script and has initiated a real conversation. This is unheard of. I ask her how she got suckered into working V day. She said she didn’t know, and expressed her dismay of being the only one on for the night. I sympathize and she tells me, “Well, That’s the price you pay for being single.” She looks at me with a flirtatious gleam in her eye, and I respond with confident acknowledging smile in return (a smile that I haven’t been able to muster in a long time). :o :cool: I get my coffee and she wishes me a good evening while gazing into my eyes, then as I’m walking away she wishes me a happy V-day.

I have tested pheromones on this girl in the past without results. I have worn a314, -nol, -none, shine, ect. She seems to have a strong character that is not easily swayed.

age male 18-19 female 17-19 (Male alpha Basketball/swimmer type. Confident and muscular. Female rating scale 8.7-9 blond could be a 10 if she wore less make up and had better posture. (she was hanging on the guys arm and displaying poor self confidence) Both were wearing letter jackets from one of the local schools)
The couple that came in behind me seemed rather quiet at first, but after 2-3 minutes the girl became much more vocal. They seemed more intimate and flirtatious.

Side note. EVERY time I wear –none I put people. Nobody get mad at me, but it’s as if I can’t wear it without Od’ing There is one mix that sigma gave me that seemed to be ok which is

2.5 –none
22.5 mcg p79
2 sprays spaceland
3 sprays IS

Even with this mix in a bar people I approached were not friendly except for 1 girl to me, and 2 to my buddy who were in a wedding party. (he wore the same mix)

PRE RELEASE Dirty (Sexual Pheromone Oil with copulins) for Men
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How come if you hit the back button (or unkown sticky keys on a pc taking you back ARG!) the forum loses all the text you have written?

Ok on to my test.

I think that men wearing copulins is a complex thing. Yes, is you put on -none and copulins you will seem to be a bad boy. I don’t think this is the most effective way to use them. My theory is that you will recieve better results, if you display yourself as that wonderful boyfriend who just left his girl. All the girls want him, but can’t have him because of his girl.

I put on
2 sprays 5x copulins: They would be present after sex
12.5 mcg alpha androstenol: present in fresh sweat
7.5 mcg beta androstenol: I think this would be more present in a relationship promoting deeper comunication and closeness.
2 sprays mx210 (10.3mcg alphanol, taa, akuto) The Taa makes you vibrant, and I know i’m vibrant after sex and visit with a close significant other.
2.5mcg androstenone (obviously present after sex)
2 sprays mx202 (There is not much information regarding mx202. It is the female directed version of mx200 the asian persuasion mix subtle and sexual) If you are haveing sex female pheromones will most definately transfer.

I went to a department store and asked a female employee (7.4) where the bathroom was. She her back to me to look then I located it and said thank you. She turned back and stopped perpendicular while looking strait ahead and said “no problems” She seemed shocked and timmid, but not irritated or intimidated. I felt like I triggered her ASD. She came back past me later with some boxes on the cart she had. I had my back to her, glanced behind me for a second and saw her. She didn’t make eye contact, but as she passed I saw her checking me out peripheraly.

I headed to the cologne section and saw a girl that I used -none for the first time on (5mcg, she’s 26). She was my first hit. She was all over me that night, but later blamed it on alcohol and avoided me. I talked to her, and it was a little awkward. She did move from where she was standing to being drirectly in front of me. which was not congruent to her avoidance. She went back to work and I continued to the colognes. I saw a girl I went to highschool with at the cologne/make up counter talking to a co-worker. We were both enthusiasic about this unexpected meeting. We don’t know each other that well, and she is engaged to somebody who is 35 as far as I know. She was very friendly, and treated me like we were old buddies. We had a conversation for awhile and she helped me pick out some colognes. I threw out some of my fragrance knowledge i’ve picked up from the perfum forum. Keep in mind, I never asociated with this girl ever. She was in a different social cirlce. He closeness was a little odd, but good. She gave me 3 sample and I headed to the checkout to pay for my CK jeans (that rock!)

I went to my car and put on the jeans because I was wearing some old nautica jeans that are roughly 2-3 years out of style…lol I walked over to the coffee shop, and ordered a spiced decaff chai. The coffee girls were young 16-17. The one that was helping acted normal for the most part. She asked me if I needed a receipt, ran my card, and had forgotten already that I told her no reciept. I get my chai, she says thank you. I give her no responce as i’m putting my card away, then I look up after she turned and said tank you. She gave me a big smile. The type of smile you give when you are so happy to see somebody you are comfortable with that you can’t help but smile. An uncontrolled comfortable big smile in other words (that probably makes no sense. It’s hard to explain body language for me). I grab my chai, smile back and turn to leave. As i’m walking away she says have a nice night with that same big happy smile. I look back and say “you too.” Then walk out the door.

So far past two mixes I have worn are making the coffee girls try to talk to me as i’m leaving. It’s like they were sad i was leaving and trying to edge in a last good by.

I’m sure many of you are thinking how one could possibly decifer the effects of the copulins in such complex mixes.

I think that testing copulins by themselves or with soley sexual mixes is a bad idea. Catlord has tested copulins with hit or miss results, but he wears many sexualy oriented mixes, and wears them at clubs.

I’m trying to entice the people anywhere. I think these mixes I am testing put of accurate, but concentrated, signitures to what a man in a sexual relationship would smell like after intimacy.

As compared to instant jerk or pre-release dirty, I want to make Instant boyfriend. I have always been more interested in the LTR side as opposed to one nighters or flings in regards to pheromones.

I think i’m on the right track. Mix 2 seemed more enticing, but less friendly. Cutting back on the androstenol may be a good idea.

Hey Jasmin, if you are reading this, could you PM me as to what the primary ingredient in the mx200-202 set? If not that’s cool, I just wanted to know how feminine they actualy are, or what is the main contribution to their effects.

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This is an absolute freaking awesome post.

Much love for it.

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Thanks Steveo!

I have a feeling I’m going to be using copulins in my daily mix. I’m getting more hits than I have off anything else so far. I think the biggest part is the testosterone increase. I find it easier to talk to females, and i’m a little more reserved. Speak softly but cary a Big wang…I mean penis…I mean sick…:confused: :stuck_out_tongue:

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See you could have just PM’d me all this when I asked instead of making me beg for the cupolin info.

Dude, you are so getting a rep point after I spread some love around some more.:stuck_out_tongue:

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I little sexy birdy told me I should post some results :slight_smile: and i’m always down for some rep points. WOOOO! thanks!

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I’d be interested in instant boyfriend myself too, I’m on the LTR side too..

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Finding a real connection is always better than something that means nothing in the end.

I have a thought to add based on women wanting what they can’t have.

There are few ways to be unatainable. You can be taken, display to high of a value, be the center of desire by other females (bandwagon), Have sworn off women (angry over bad relationship, monk, religouse reasons), or simply be interested in the same sex.

Looking at these options I see one that can backfire hard core. Displaying to high of a value can make people give up, and not try. If you aproach then they might be to intimidated to follow your lead.

Several are just irrational.
Swearing off women? yeah right…lol Being a monk/religious reasons. If you are a monk/religious figure that is sworn from having sex then you proabably won’t be wearing pheromones.

2 are reasonable. If you are the center of desire, then all the girls are going to want you because it’s a challenge. The second they have you it may not be a challenge anymore and go south.

Being taken shows you are desirable, yet they can’t have you. If some other girl wants to be with you then why shouldn’t I, type effect.

These are the only ways I could think of to be unatainable, and the being taken seems to be the best option.

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I’m guessing the key words here are “exposure to a woman wearing them.” The real deal certainly sends me into fits. However I seriously doubt your T-levels will redline by sniffing a bottle of Essence of Woman or a few drops on your body.

I’ve played with copulins as a standalone and in various fav mixes to no avail. My theory was I could don a dab of Essence of Woman and girls would drop on me like flies to dung. Didn’t happen. I thought my GF would get jealous due to the scent of another woman. Nope. Worked okay in mixes with NPA and Scent of Eros although I can’t say it was anymore effective with or without copulins.

I can say two things: 1) copulins are killer on an attractive woman; and 2) it melts through rubber after about a month (watch your eye dropper thingie).

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You make a good point with experience to back it up.

I doubt that it matters if the copulins are being worn by a woman. If a chemical can stimulate testosteron in ones body, it should effect that person whether it is on another person, or piece of paper.

The only variable is if copulins being in contact with something on a womans skin changes the chemical make up. This seems a little unlikely but possible.

A second issue, is that 1 drop essence of woman is the equivilant dose to my entire bottle of 5x cops. What you are applying is way past the levels of copulins that would be present in a real situation. Perhaps your 1 drop of copulins is conflicting with the targets subconciouse, and therefore inhibiting results by the females mind going into denial of the copulins presence.

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It most certainly DOES matter that copulins are being worn by a live woman to get the results WE get from using them for sexual interactions with males. This has been proved many times over. There have been numerous highly scientific studies done on this and in fact you have just reminded me that when I am back at work on Monday I have to retrieve from my medical database, something showing this that I promised nbully from before Christmas,

Again serach the Women’s forum, as I have named three of the most prolific names in copulin research and talked about their results. I think Carrie has also posted something, and ilsa has a whole copulin research article in the reserach section somewhere.

You will NEVER achieve the same results we get, because quite simply, you do NOT naturally product copulins. The resaon (and I have explained this in the sticky you mentioned), that SOME women do get good results using a small amount on -none, is because (albeit to a much lesser extent than you males), we women DO naturally also produce -none.

Ail :slight_smile:

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I’m not expecting to achieve the same results women elicit from copulins, but mearly use them to aid in creating an image.

Are you saying that scientificly, copulins will not boost a mans testosterone levels unless they are worn by a woman? That would be a primary concern with my test.

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Ok, I was negged for this thread (expected)

“Cops’ll make yu luk like a femme. if thats wat u want, fine. Most of us MEN dont”

Look, I’m not wearing cops to look like a female, but to look like I just had sex. That is the whole point of wearing them. Copulins are also supposed to raise testosterone (waiting on ails responce and going to do some more research).

Obviously you didn’t read any of my first post and decided to neg me without informing yourself,and if you feel you can insult my masculinity by emphisizing MEN in your comment, it didn’t work. Better luck next time.

You should also attempt to learn some grammer. You can’t turn a noun into a compound word.

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Introduction

Something else interesting from the same source

med4

Once again, I don’t intend to attract a female with the copulins. I intend to attract a female by the image copulins help create in conjunction with other pheromones as well as personal actions being changed by increased testosterone levels. Via my sources above, it is clear that the copulins to not need to be worn by the female, but simply inhaled. I dot think that copulins will sexualy intice a woman, as they are biologicly designed to entice men.

I do think that females will be affected in some manor by being exposed to copulins. Why wouldn’t they? Men are affected by androstenone, as well as every other pheromone produced in our own systems. I see no reason why women would be unefected by their own copulin production.

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Introduction

Something else interesting from the same source

med4

Once again, I don’t intend to attract a female with the copulins. I intend to attract a female by the image copulins help create in conjunction with other pheromones and personal actions being subconciously altered by increased testosterone levels. Via my sources above, it is clear that the copulins to not need to be worn by the female, but simply inhaled. I don’t think that copulins will sexualy intice a woman, as they are biologicly designed to entice men.

I do think that females will be affected in some manor by being exposed to copulins. Why wouldn’t they? Men are affected by androstenone, as well as every other pheromone produced in our own systems. I see no reason why women would be unefected by their own copulin production.

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Yes, synthetic copulin compounds do have to be actually on a woman for the spike to occur in the male, but unfortunately, I will be invigilating exams this afternoon., so cannot elaborate.

I will try to get the data I require to show you exactly HOW this works, next Wednesday, but as i said to nbully, there are a lot of things I don’t have permission to post on open forums, so I need to do a bit of checking up first.

I understand your frustration at our resident negger (hell he takes stuff off me nearly every day!) but he raises a very good point. Cat and other males who are VERY experienced in pheromone usage, backed right away from copulin usage after a couple of experiences where they were viewed by several heterosexual women as extremely effeminate - and NOT in the good way.

Ail :slight_smile:

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In other words, yes there is likely to be an effect but it could be very negative…
Myself I’m not likely to experiment with cops, instead once I have another gf I might make her my own perfume using EO’s and cops… :slight_smile:
sexxay I say.. I already did that for a relative (though she didn’t use it after all!).

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wow, this thread has inspired me to start my own in terms of what to look for from a woman’s point of view for hits.
im very opinionated in this area, but id like to mention that the forum has helped to formulate those opinions as well as my own experience (which anyone that knew me a year ago knows i will experiment with any and all products just to gain insight).

i also want to take the time to mention that reading threads like this really inspires me to want to get everyone together for pheromone-fest 2007 so that we can all go clubbing after socializing and show what we mean by example…

if i win the lotto, im making this happen,LOL

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I don’t know if you saw my sources as we posted at the same time, and I certainly mean no disrespect, but my sources are contradictory to what you are saying.

The tests groups were exposed to synthetic copulins that were not applied to a female in a double blind study. Testosterone increases were recorded when exposed to synthetic ovulatory copulins.

If you have a source that disproves this, i’d like to see.

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Kudos to you, Toilofday, for doing your own testing instead of relying on the word of others. You’ve done an enormous amount of homework on pheromones in your short time here, and you’re willing to take risks and discover for yourself … that’s what it takes to advance the body of knowledge.

Everything I have read so far on Jutte’s study indicates it involved smelling copulins, not men smelling women wearing copulins. I’d be very interested to see documentation showing otherwise. Maybe someone could write to her and get a definitive answer?

However, even if Jutte’s study DID involve copulins worn by women, that still leaves open the possibility that there may be ways for men to achieve some desired results using trace amounts of copulins as part of a well-rounded synthetic pheromone signature.