Thow Some Copulins In The Mix

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Holly Crap! I started a “post reply” landslide! WOOOO!

Lor, thanks for emailing Astrid Jutte. That was a fantastic idea. Hopefuly she replies.

Ail, thank you for going to distance to provide information on the matter. Don’t get yourself in trouble though. I’d hate to see that happen.

Visual stimulation seems to be quite a turning point for this discussion.

I think we have concluded that copulins will increase a males testosterone without the presence of a female, but not in as large of quantities. That make sence. It’s not like I get a hard on from smelling copulins. lol

If visual presence is the issue in a testosterone spike (as Ail defined), then wouldn’t just the presence of an attractive female trigger the spike? I think I need to clarify this so i’ll set up a scenario. I want to make sure i’m not being vague or confusing.

A male applies copulins to his skin at a known strenght for inducing a testosteron spike if the copulins are worn by a non copulin producing female. Circa 20 minutes later, his testosterone levels have increased by a percentage less than a 100%. The male leaves his domicile and ventures out to meet up with an attractive non copulin producing female. The male is now in the presence of both testoserone increasing copulins, and a visual stimuli for his subconciouse mind to connect together. His testosterone level would theoreticly elevate to the substanciated testosterone spike levels.

I actualy thought about testing my own testosterone levels. I did a search and come up a product.
Hormone Test Kits - Saliva
If I had 60 bucks to spend in the name of science I would have already ordered the test kit

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i am soooo saving for that kit.
im testing everyone!!!
:smiley:
if anyone has tested themselves in the name of science, i believe it would have been tacitus if he is poking around here…

im jealous,Ail.
i was supposed to go out tonight,but my son got sick :frowning:

so its popcorn,t.v., and the pc on for the click that happens when someone has posted to an interesting thread!

:slight_smile: Ms Jutte, the court awaits :slight_smile:

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2.5 –none sex present m
2 5x cops sex present f
1 mx201 + 1 more with 80 percent wiped off to get a normal sized spray. Mharris says it’s sexual
2 mx211 10.3 mcg alpha nol + taa per spray
5 betanol for deeper communication
15 mcg p79 Masculine to battle femine copulins + enhancer
1 dab 5mcg p83 Focus according to Tacitus. I see aggressive sides and creative sides
1 mx102 sample sized spray DHV
12.5 mcg alphanol because I felt really aggressive after I put on p83 and the –none.

I will start off by saying that I am intoxicated. Wooo! lol

At the beginning of the evening I was rather disappointed. There were a few positives however. The bar that I normally go to had been closed for weeks, and re-opened tonight. I stopped by my bar waiting the arrival of a friend from a neighboring town. He was severely late and didn’t show up until much later in the evening. I walk into my bar, show my ID, and look for the bartenders. One of them is a cousin of a friend, and very beautiful (girl-1). I make eye contact and held it while smiling and walking to her for a drink. I was so focused on her that I didn’t even notice my buddy (alpha type) who was talking to her, until after I said hello. That was quite forward of me considering that girl-1 and I are friends, she is older, and taken. She seemed a little confused, but it was dismissed. I talked to my buddy, while girl-1 made me a gin and tonic. I talked to another male friend (alpha type) while I was there (no negative effects on alpha men so far). I left because the people I intended on hanging out with were at a different bar. (Kind of townie and hickish, but that’s the demographics in the area)

Bar 2
I show up and sit down with my friends (non alpha type males, 1 non alpha female, and one HB7). My non alpha male friends seem threatened. They make poor eye contact, and don’t talk to me that much. I’m sitting at the end of the table beside HB7. Things are exceedingly boring, but HB7 keeps leaning in and talking to me. Massive IOI’s. Throughout the night she treated me as the alpha, even to the extent of ignoring other people who she had been talking to in order to ask me questions or fill me in. I was teasing her, and acting in a manor that would be congruent with a PUA. I was not trying to run PUA material. I just happened. It even went to the extent of her wanting me to explain why all of these non alpha males were crushing on her even though it was obvious she wasn’t interested. I told her she didn’t have the correct anatomy for me to explain. After that discussion there was a decent amount of sexual innuendo, ending in the statement “It’s hot in hear” with a flushed face and a shy smile.

I leave to bar1 to meet up with my friends who finally arrived in town.

Bar 1
I see my crew and talk to them. I’m informed of a few old faces being around and go talk to them. The first girl HB7.8 is a lesbian. I walk up to her and enthusiastically say her name in greeting. She get up from her chair, hugs me, then jumps up, wraps her legs around me and wiggles. (heh heh yeah :cool:) I then see an old friend who had vanished sitting beside her. We talk, and he is shocked at my appearance as I’m much smaller than I used to be and carry my weight very well even though I’m technically over weight. He didn’t recognize me. At this point I have neglected girl-2, also sitting at the table. Girl-2 is about 6’ and a stronger frame than most, but still attractive. (think attractive tall female basketball player, that isn’t super muscular) At this point 5 minutes have elapsed and everybody at the table has received a healthy dose of my mix. I talk to Girl-2. I extend my had to her, but not in a handshake manor. She is receptive of my gesture an makes flirtatious hand kino. I go back to my late arriving friends for a bit. Last call arrive quickly at 1:20am and I return to the girls. Girl-2 is leaving with female friend. I sit down at the end of the table in the isle and say goodbye. She leans down for a hug and kisses me on the top of my forehead. This is over the top as far as girl-2’s normal association with me. We are friendly and happy to see each other, but there has never been any sort of closeness or sexual connotation. The rest of the crowd at bar1 is heading two bar2 to finish out the evening.

Bar 2
I walk, in first to arrive, and meet up with my friends who are still present. HB7 talks to me again, but makes not that I left. She was rather involved in my company, and I left without saying goodbye because she was disposed at the time. She wasn’t as flirtatious and forward in her interest of me after that, but there were still IOI’s, and conversation.
At this point I could tell that key elements of my mix were wearing off. The –nols, Taa, and possibly mx201 (p93) had dissipated. The mix became less friendly. I didn’t have anything to touch up the mix so I just observed the change in the effects. HB7 talked to me less and less. She was drinking lightly as to be a driver (3 the entire night and she barely touched the 3rd) so I’m sure she was tired of the bar later in the evening. I however kept drinking, and became decently intoxicated. I didn’t see any strong IOI’s after that point, except a girl that was playing pool against me and a friend kept asking me my name over and over. She would forget and find the desire to know immediately.

Conclusion: THIS MIX ROCKS! I have never had so many IOI’s, Hits, and positive responses in one night. I haven’t even had that many in a month. I need to bring some touch up material, and drink less. Besides that, this mix is money in the bank. It’s effects on my socialization/game were unparalleled, and the effects on women are also astounding. I’m in utter disbeliefe. How did this happen! Thank you Androtics! You are my new best friend.

Lets see how this works out tomorrow at Muncie Gras. Festival supreme, Ball State University!

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time to join jasmin’s minion, me thinks.

hmmph, i was first

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awesome post !!!

any tweaking of your formula?
i mean are someone who will keep this formula and wear it all the time, or are you constantly searching for novel experiences?

so P83 was agressive-feeling, or did it only enhance the 'none ?

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OK that’s a fab post. I think in the next 2 weeks here I will buy every freaking pheromone Androtics offer.

Great post Toil, very detailed. You mention that you were drinking more and got drunk. When this happens to me its not that there are no IOI’s I’m just blinded by the booze. Do you think this could have been the situation? I am very interested in your results when you do apply 2X.

Keep up the reports.

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As it turns out I’m not going to make it to Muncie Gras . I don’t have enough money, ARG! Oh well, my favorite bar is back and will be in full effect tomorrow.

I’ve changed the formula every time for good reason. Mix 1 was a shot in the dark. Mix 2 was very thought out for being well rounded, attractive, but not aggressive. Mix 3 was an attempt to change a few elements in mix 2 to isolate the effects of the components. It seemed a little to feminine. The masculine parts of the mix are very important and I think A314/mx102 is huge in the success of mix2 compared the mix 3. Mix 4 was an attempt to modify mix 2 for a club, making it very masculine and sexual, while holding back the aggressive notes. I intend to fine tune Mix2 and Mix4. Mix2 needs more work than Mix4 for sure. I don’t know what I’m doing with mix 2, but for mix 4 I’m thinking of switching from mx102 to normal a314. I also want to see how it works without the p83. I’m not a real big fan of p83 because of the aggressive nature, but I felt it’s strong masculine vibe important.

I’m not searching for novel experiences, rather a collection of attracting mixes that I can use in many situations. This last one, I wouldn’t wear out except to a club. I think I would be a little much for a house party (unless there was a lot of smoke, and unfamiliar faces. I don’t think I want many more of my friend being overly flirtatious)

Yes the p83 was aggressive, and I began to notice the focusing abilities that have been noted. p83 is always aggressive for me, but other users don’t seem to be effected as much as I. It was the first thing I applied, and I made sure to use enough -nol and Taa to counter act the aggressiveness. The last thing I applied before I was hit in the face with an aggressive feeling was the -none. I then immediately added the extra -nol (those were the last two applications.)

Blinded by the Booze! Never! lol Yeah, there’s a good possibility of that, but I had already exhausted all of my targets (small town area). The mix was fading to it’s negative notes, I was bored, and drunkenness just happened. I might have been able to get more hits when the mix was fading if there were more targets. From the way I felt the mix changing may have increased in its sexual vibe as the buffering agents wore off leaving only the strong masculine sexual notes and copulins which seemed to stay in full effect. I could also see this creating negatives. It seems that more sexually aggressive pheromones are extra sticky. P83, p79, and –none all seem to linger for a long time. The Mx201/p93 definitely wore off now that I think about it. I noticed it having a distinctive light happy vide when I wore it in the past. That seemed to fade around the same time as the –nols and Taa

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This is like what I found out when I tried p83 this week with a314, as I reported in another thread. It increased my “authority”..

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Yeah, I saw that! P83 is some strange and powerful stuff. Enhancer? Focuser? Agressor? Sexual? Masculine lumberjack? lol

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Another mix another day.

1spray 5x copulins
3 sample mx113
22.5 mcg p79
light dab of 5mcg p83
2 spray shine
1 spray mx208

5 hours prior
1 drop a314
3 sprays shine

Well this mix didn’t seem to have favorable results. I was text messaged at to my plans for the evening by female friend A. Girl A (A is in a serious relationship) and her roommate Girl B (B is dating somebody I think) were going out to the bars (on a Monday night) for some drinks. They were trying to get a group of people to go. As it ended up, it was just the 3 of us. I show up to the bar, get a drink, and take a seat. I felt a little hesitant for some reason. I kept my distance a little. Things were friendly. We talked and joked around. A good start to the evening considering I hadn’t hung out with them independently of other friends, and this was the 3rd time meeting up. It’s not like we are strangers, but just past the border of acquaintances. I notice a little distance that I can’t really explain. I expect the copulins, and go to the bathroom and try to wipe them off my chest with a wet paper towel. This only makes them more prevalent. We head to another bar, get some drinks, the usual. The one thing I noticed was that when we sat down, Girl B made an effort to arrange the chairs so she was sitting next to Girl A and that I was at the other side of the table. This could be coincidence as close female friends seem to stick together quite well. It was one of those tall 3 person tables with the lofty stools. At this point Girl B is getting a little tipsy, and we start playing the “I have” “I have not” game. It’s somewhat comical, but they try to be good girls and are reluctant to move the game into the gutter which it was designed for. It ends up going into the gutter, and I’m sitting there thinking, “Man, these girls don’t do anything kinky or exciting.”

I still am noticing a little distance, but that could be all in my head as I was bored, tired, and a little zoned out.

The good thing is that so far I have 3 mixes with copulins that have been successful with women to some extent and one to a large extent. That leaves this last mix that I tested on the wrong girls, and am unsure of what negatives I received.

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My goal was to stir up some flirting (which kind of happened) and not use -none.

I do think there was a little distance over the course of the evening, but I realy couldn’t tell for sure.

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Well, you can help even the “attractivness perception” variable of a female copulin wearer by not using visual stimuli. Blindfold the participants, or as done in other experiments I’ve seen, have the female wering the cops behind a screen or otherwise covered so there is little or no visual clue.

(And if you blindfold them both does that make it a “double blind” study??? :stuck_out_tongue: )

And Ail, I could stand to do some “close to someone’s chest” “medical” studies myself… Where do we sign up?

(And I’m not even wearing Shine tonight and I’m like this… Hmmmm…)

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So I wore mix 4 again with some mild adjustments. I used a314 instead of mx102, added 7.5 mcg beta nol, added one spray of shine, and cut out the added alpha nol.

2.5 –none sex present m
2 5x cops sex present f
1 mx201 + 1 more with 80 percent wiped off to get a normal sized spray. Mharris says it’s sexual
2 mx211 10.3 mcg alpha Androstenol + taa per spray
5 betanol for deeper communication
15 mcg p79 Masculine to battle femine copulins + enhancer
1 dab 5mcg p83 Focus according to Tacitus. I see aggressive sides and creative sides
1 mx102 sample sized spray DHV
12.5 mcg alphanol because I felt really aggressive after I put on p83 and the –none.

The bars sucked tonight. It was a sausage fest at bar 1. The mix was friendly to both men and women. I had some very strong hits from this girl that was sitting beside me. I wasn’t attracted to her, it was her birthday, and she was very drunk. She kept leaning into me excessively, grabbing my inner thigh, and asking me to dance with her.

The group headed to bar 2. Bar 2 was pretty hoppin’. There were several targets. I chatted with a girl at the bar for a bit (26-28). I thought she’d be hesitant because she looked a little mean. She seemed to open up rather quickly. No real hits though.

My buddy knew a girl from a previous night and she approached him (hb8). She had a friend (hb7.6) and they seemed to rather enjoy his company. I aproach knowing that my friend will work as a wing, and I the same for him. (oh I had sprayed him with 1 mx201, 2 mx208, and 1 mx102 sample). As I worked though the night trying to run some sort of game as there were many distractions on both sides I began to get some IOI’s. I dance with her provocatively for a bit. She was enjoying herself, but then she says she needs to sit down. I lost the game at this point. I’m still wondering why. I have some ideas, but I think it had something to do with the mix. I was not aware at the time, that somehow I messed up the possibilites. I asked her if she wanted to dance again after a set break since I was talking to her, and she said maybe next time. I procceded to say, “How is there going to be a next when I don’t even have your phone number?” in a flirtatious mannor. Here comes the Burn. She told me, “I’ll be here”. :angry: After that I said screw it. Buddy one gets her interest and she’s sitting in his lap. He could have kiss closed, but didn’t. Buddy 2 gets her number in about 3 minutes before we leave. AHHHH! Big shot to the ego tonight. It’s to bad that buddy 2 is going to call her excessively, perhaps get her interests and then never close the deal. I’ve seen it happen twice. He doesn’t have the Balls in short.

Wearing copulins with strong masculine notes seems to provide a basis for initial attraction. If your game is strong, and you can create attraction past this point then I’d say copulins are good thing to use. This is not my case. Every time i’ve gotten success with Copulins so far it seems that my efforts fall through.

Oh buddy 1 made more progress using the mx’s than he’s ever has in the past with his long term target.

I need to stop meeting people at bars. Humph :confused:
I can’t wait till my Ammunition come in.

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Toil,
Are you still using this mix?
Still tons of IIO’s and hits?
Please update.

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Toil’s “out of town” for a bit:

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Honestly, cops smell like pussy. So if you wear too much it’s like your walking around covered in pussy juice…hahahaha.

I have some PPC from LS, and I’ve used it with NPA and Chikara with hit and miss results. Wearing it on my upper lip is definitely a “pick me up” and I can’t fall asleep for hours after doing so. The smell, is just so…strong but not really turn-on, just like a strong mellow turn-on that keeps me awake. I don’t feel anything extra unless I see something good-looking in front of me, and that’s when I feel more “oozing sexualness” for some reason.

And that’s the feeling I got when mixing it with NPA or Chikara…it’s like women felt much more comfortable touching me and it decreased personal space a lot. Androstenone ups the intimidation, and this stuff upped the comfort level…

It definitely definitely increases touching.

The only thing that bothers me is that after a while I feel like it messed up my normal pheromone balance! If you want a way to get rid of androstenone OD or build-up, this is it! I remember a time when I felt like I was OD’ing when I used just 2 sprays of Ammo…after I started using cops it was like even 5 drops of PI didn’t make me OD at all! It was a little annoying because I got this woman-like energy for about a week until I was back to my OD’ing self again. Still, since using cops it’s really taken a while to get back to the level of sensitivity that I once had to androstenone.

I guess everyone is different, and I’m the type that gets affected easily by the pheromones myself.

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Random Question: Whenever I had just gotten laid, it is often “sensed” by others, especially females even after I’ve showered. Is this because of the natural copulins lingering around afterwards? You know, whenever somebody can look dead into your eyes, and can tell that you just had sex. lol. Is that due to pheromones or because of body language or both?

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Actually, I liked the scent of PCC. It smelled fresh and slightly sweet from memory. Also, I think of fresh cucumber when I think of PCC.

Mindset, many females have the uncanny capability of telling who has just had sex. I certainly can tell a girl has just had sex up to 12 hours prior, providing I know the girl reasonably well. When it comes to men on that topic, I am as thick as it gets though. I have a sneaky feeling it is a combination of pheromones and body language.

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Given that we’re on the topic of copulins, it certainly sounds like women would be more keen on picking up prior sexual activity since they are more familiar with their own body chemistry, which what makes me think that pheromones definately have a role in their uncanny ability. Also, men tend to appear more confident and/or display a change in their behavior whenever they’ve had sexual encounters. I think other men would pick up on the phermones as well, but I think a change in behavior would strike them moreso on the conscious level.

I would have to agree that it’s a combination of lingering pheromones and body language.

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I saw a girl who had just been on a car trip abroad with her bf lately and I really felt like she had had sex somehow… who knows perhaps it was both body language and her natural pheros…