Tonight's Self Experiment: 30 mcg of TAK

Tonight, as I am almost finished with uploading the last duplicating master to my manufacturer, I decided to do a self experiment while I wait. Tonight it’s TAK at 30 mcg.

Just applied… we shall see what happens.

I’m not gonna lie Cat, i love these blow by blow self reports that you write up. Especially since i’ve found i’m nowhere near as sensitive to self effects as you are, so i like to know what they are… even if i barely see many myself. Thanks for doing these and keep it on! Reps!

:smiley: Thanks.

reporter voice

It’s been several minutes now, and I’ve noticed exactly no changes. No head rush, nothing. I cannot smell TAK on my skin, now that it has dried down. From Catlord Central, I’m Catlord, and that’s the news.

Noticing that I am coughing slightly, for no apparent reason. Hope I’m not allergic to this one…

Seems to be making me cough… my lungs feel as if there’s something going on… but I haven’t noticed any other effects yet. Interesting to have my lungs responding.

I am feeling slightly tired… and my face seems to be feeling a little different… it’s a little like being more aware of the sensation of the muscles in certain areas… primarily around the mouth and nose. Very interesting. Coughing response has stopped, lungs still feel different.

just curious, where did you spray, what strength is the spray to get to 30?

I have 2.5 mcg/spray: 12 sprays. 3 to neck, 4 to forearms, 2 to backs of hands, and the rest to my chest. I’m sitting here in shorts. :slight_smile:

All noticeable effects seem to have worn off… still tired, but that’s reasonably chalked up to the time of day and the fact that I recently ate.

holy LOL i hope it is unscented at least

Yes, unscented.

I can feel something in my head, but it’s faint and I don’t know how to describe it. I think my hearing is slightly enhanced.

I am rather disappointed… not much effect at all that I can see. I guess I’ll have to try again with a much higher dosage, and see what it does to other people. Another time. I’m going to bed. (Maybe it’ll give me interesting dreams. )

I’m not very up to speed on TAK, but it could be one of those that has to work synergisticly with other pheros to see any result. Sort of how P79 by itself isn’t much, but it’s known to be a “flavor enhancer” for other pheros.

-D4

I love TAK. To me it is the one mone that makes me feel ‘accepted’ by most people.

It works well at putting people at ease - my occasional social awkwardness and intense look can put people on edge at times. I have to say, not using TAK for a while really hurt me in my social life. On its own TAK is a little ‘cold and boring’ (brings ‘the unthrilling, nonthreatening nice guy effect’:slight_smile:). But added to products like Instant Shine, Instant Gentleman, P86 and a little AndrostEnone for example, TAK noticeably adds to the mix by making me seem less threatening, resulting in opening up channels of communication… I am using 25 mcg every 4-5 hours now when out and I have to say I like more TAK. Just make sure you are still acting Alpha with it on - it can exaggerate ‘weakness’…

No unusual dreams from last night that I can recall. I suspect that, if anything, the TAK made me a bit more more practical minded.

Hey Catlord, I’m liking the TAK testing. :slight_smile: Is there any way you can note the time of your post? The forum gets less accurate as time goes on. I get the feeling your posts were several minutes apart, but they’re all listed as 14 hours ago, so I don’t really know how far apart each report was.

Visionary had good suggestions on the use of TAK. Warren might have some good input on TAK as well. Alone, it’s pretty hard to pinpoint. A higher dose might reveal it to you. Combining it with other pheros is a good way to figure out TAK.

For me, TAK is sort of like negative space compared to space or as tacitus put it ‘reduction in resistance’ rather than straight ‘attraction (active pulling force)’. The oil between the gears so to speak. On the surface it might seem to ‘take away’ from the mix, or ‘soften’ things, but if you look at the bigger picture, you’ll see it adds things as well. If you have a solid square, then cut out 4 smaller squares, the resulting image is different than a simple square.

Hmm..from that description, it’s obvious I’m a visual learner..sorry that was random. If visuals aren’t that helpful, I can put it into sounds or taste or something I guess.

They were fairly rapid fire… over the course of about an hour, hour and a half.

Thanks for the insight. I know it was doing something, because it made my face feel slightly different, and I think it made me significantly more tired than I thought. It would definitely be a modifier, instead of an actionable pheromone on it’s own, from my first test. I will have to continue experimenting when I get another chance.

Thanks for the insight. I will see what I can get out of TAK in my next series of tests, which is probably going to be testing the buffering effects of various things on androstenone.

In modern persuasion parlance, that means you guys view TAK as useful as part of an “Omega” strategy.

TAK might be something of a “Dr. Knowles” Omega Path molecule, while something like androstenone may be more of an aggressive, in your face “Dr. Cialdini” Alpha Path molecule.

DrKnowles.Com - Omega Strategies: Persuasion by Removing Resistance

Alpha + omega can definitely work together to be more than either could be alone. An engine needs it’s spark as much as it’s needs it’s grease.

Brilliant report Catlord! You do some awesome experiments!
This one is really interesting, I haven’t heard much about TAK and am quite interested to try it myself…:roll_eyes:

I think I’ve read in a few other posts tht it’s somewhat sedating…the rest of you findings were interesting too though…In what way do you think it modifies other phero’s?

I definitively think you should try a higher dose and a few combos!

Yes one thing to be aware of with reasonably high-dose TAK (say 30 mcg) is the anti-intimidation effect it brings. I’ve seen people relatively low-down workwise (sitting next to TAKed me :wink:) asking lots of little questions of their bosses and throwing their opinions around like they ‘owned the place’; and bosses themselves being given additional work by their own bosses (nothing malicious or anything just a lack of ‘respect’). I’ve said a few words I shouldn’t have too in trying to correct a friend’s behaviour - the effect is not too far away from that of BetaNol. But TAK seeems to be more about increasing comfort and approachability and lessening resistance as Phya mentioned (and Jasmin elaborated on). People just aren’t intimidated when high dose TAK is in the air…