trials and tribulations

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Time to start a journal to document my testing.

Just got some goods yesterday so of course I tried it on right away. One spray of IO and one spray IS just on the inner arms just for a sniff really. Not bad fragrance at all.

Had to run a couple of errands so I went down to the local office supply place to pick up a few things for work, didn’t notice anything until I got to the counter…

An older woman, maybe 60ish was standing behind me in line, she kept edging closer and closer to me, I would move over and she would move with me. Very weird, she closed the gap to about 6 inches. Was actually pretty uncomfortable and really obvious that she wanted to be near me…she never once made eye contact, just kept moving closer and closer.

Later that night went out with a girl I’m seeing at the moment - 1 spray Ammo and 1 each of IS and IO. No reaction until later when she was lying on me she smelt my chest where I sprayed the Ammo and told me how great I smelled.

So far just in very early testing phase so I didn’t really expect anything yet, will continue to test and report my findings.

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Good to read you’re starting off with one spray of stuff. I hope its because you are seeking your sweet spot :wink:. With IO and Ishine I can assure you though most members use about 3 sprays each with good effect. Use the ammo with 1 spray another day, then move up to two for a couple days and then to three, maybe all the way up to 4. Most likely at 29 2-3 of ammo will work best for you.

Your GF is already used to your natural pheromone signature so it might take her a day or two to get re-acquainted with the new you. The key though is to have fun, don’t look for hits, create them.

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I haven’t gone higher than 2 sprays AMMO as yet and have always buffered it. For the next couple of weeks, I will try 2 sprays AMMO with no buffer and then 3 etc… until the effects are blatant or alarming :wink:

Wondering with the sweet spot method, is it necessary with the socials or should you just spray on a standard 2 or 3 sprays?

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I’d recommend sweet spot testing the socials too. IS can give you a caffeine like crash. For me this happens pretty fast and after only 2 sprays. I also recommend sweet spot testing IO because for one, too much IO can lead to wanting ISTFU, and two, IO can affect you as well as people around you and you wanna be prepared for that. You’ll be fine if you just spray 2-3 of each but you’ll be better off in the long run if you know what each successive spray adds to a mix.

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Thanks zest, haven’t had any crash effects from IS in the past but will be wary of it. Some testing with IO is on the cards, I’m pretty open and talkative so it prolly wont make that much difference to me, be happy if it causes me to need ISTFU with others :slight_smile:

Doing some sweet spot testing with AMMO at the moment, so after I finish with that I’ll move on to the IO, quite a process but I sure the benefits are there to be had.

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Yes, you hone your mone skills and feel much more comfortable in making your own combo’s once you’ve seen the molecules in action on their own.

I was a bit put off by how long it was going to take to do some sweet spot testing, but you can check it out on my sig below, that I labeled Amazing in a bottle, I got through it and can’t replace the experience gained by that exercise.

Keep up the testing… keepin’ an eye on your trials!!! :slight_smile:

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Just a quick update: and big thanks to AD for my latest order and the free mx297 - can’t wait to try this out.

Been testing AMMO for the last couple of weeks, trying to stick to sweat spot testing for this one product before I change things too much. Although I got a new order today so I’m obviously going to go crazy with new stuff for the next couple of days before I go back to the sweat spot.

AMMO 1X Strength @ 1 Spray
Self Effects - None
Effects on Others - Nothing of Note to Report

AMMO 1X Strength @ 2 Spray
Self Effects - Minimal - slightly sore throat, nothing really in the way of mental or emotion changes that I can really determine.
Effects on Others - Seemed a little more interested in what I had to say, and more interest expressed in general. Few IOI’s from strangers, not much that was too exciting. I get hair play, lots of eye contact, openness anyway depending on my mood (vibe).

AMMO 1X Strength @ 3 Spray
Self Effects - BINGO! - Felt relaxed but somehow more on, like I didn’t care at all what anyone thought of me. I was the dominate one in all interactions with males and females.
Effects on Others -

  1. Indian girl, early 20’s that I just met (friend of a friend) was giving incredible eye contact, wouldn’t stop talking to me, turned her whole body to face me as soon as I sat down, massive interest all round.

  2. Caucasian girl late 20’s, first meeting opened her in a bar. Huge kino, lots of IOI’s wouldn’t shut up and wouldn’t leave. She kept saying things that were meant to impress me, and then being self depreciating about it. Like she was trying to impress me and knew it but couldn’t help but do it anyway :slight_smile:

Those were the 2 clearest, both easy number closes. Apart from that, female bar staff incredibly helpful. Immense respect from other men. One older man told me I shouldn’t go to bars because I’m too much… not totally sure what to make of that, but he was very friendly the whole time I spoke to him over multiple occasions although he was clearly a bit ‘unsure’ or ‘intimidated’ don’t know exactly the right word to use here. Also had a great chat to a couple of very friendly lesbians :slight_smile:

Liked this particular testing environment because although I spoke to heaps of different people throughout the night I only knew one of them prior to that night, so I thought it would give a clearer indication of my success or failure with the mones.

Just as a side note, @ 2 sprays around girls I have known for a long time. There doesn’t seem to be much effect, I have had a few ‘you smell nice’ or ‘what is that cologne’ but nothing much more.

Obviously much more testing needs to be done and I want to keep using AMMO by itself for the next week or so at varying doses to really find out what it can do. I know my report is a little everywhere so if you want to know anything specific just ask.

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Hi, moses great reports so far, let me know what you think of mx297 when you have tried it, im interested to know what you think of it given we are both similar ages.

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Grrrr… keeping it brief - had a computer crash, so I have to retype this report again

After a little mix up I have come into possession of a heap of mx297 so I thought I better get on with the testing.

Product/s: mx297 @ 2 sprays (wrists and neck)
Self Effects: Little to report initially maybe a little happier, nice smell too. After a couple of hours had a bit of a crash tho. Felt like all my energy just drained away, really tired and lethargic lasted about 20 - 30 mins then back to normal.
Notes: Went to IKEA for a bit of shopping, just threw on some mx297 because it arrived that day. I can’t say I had anything even resembling a hit. Very uneventful. There really isn’t anything more to say. Did get a complement on the smell from a friend, but that isn’t really unusual for this girl.

After reading all the other stories about this stuff, I’m not going to base my judgement of it on one isolated ill-prepared outing. Lots of testing still to be done, confidence remains high!

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Not sure about this mx297 stuff yet, haven’t had a really good chance to test it out tho.

Last night was going to see a movie with a girlfriend, was supposed to go to a bar first for a drink but I was running late so missed a great testing opportunity :frowning:

2 x mx297 wrists and neck
2 x IS(1x) back of hands and throat
1 x IH(1x) back of neck

Not much to report, was told by an asian man when buying smokes that I looked good, and then a minute later that I looked happy lol. Must be the IS and IH combo working there. As I missed the bar I didn’t get the testing I really wanted. At the movies staff were very friendly and when buying stuff from the candy bar the girl serving was very attentive and held great eye contact. No apparent effects on girlfriend.

Bumping mx297 up to 3 sprays for the next round of testing. Will use it on its own to ensure no cross over from other stuff. But not today, going to a wedding by myself - so thinking maybe A314, AMMO and IS - not sure if to throw in some IO just for the hell of it.

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First DIHL :slight_smile:

2 x A314 (each side of jaw)
2 x mx297 (wrists and front of neck)
1/2 TE = 2 sprays @ 4:1 mix (wrists and back of neck)

Just had this stuff in the car so I threw it on and went to pick up some stuff from the mall. Standing out the front of a store on my phone I noticed a 30 something woman walking towards me just staring…when the gap closed to about 12 inches or so she slowed to almost a stop and just stared into my eyes like she was hypnotized. I just stared back and smiled holding eye contact for about 5 maybe 10 seconds while I spoke on the phone, she walked past slowly and kept looking back over her shoulder at me. Freaky stuff but awesome :slight_smile:

Another interesting thing I noticed when I got into the store I was served instantly…no big deal, but it was a trainee that couldn’t really help me so she asked me to wait for the manager. Even though the manager was with another customer he literally stopped helping her and just went about getting my order sorted, while the other customer just stood there looking at me. It didn’t seem to occur to him until a couple of minutes later that he should apologize to the lady he was originally with. Not that she seemed in the slightest bit concerned.

Just found it interesting and wanted to keep a record of the mix, TE was an accident actually I thought it was mx297 until I sprayed it and noticed the difference in smell. Also had big smiles and eye contact from the other sales girl that was ‘helping’ another customer but couldn’t stop looking at me and smiling. Not the greatest circumstances for a pickup attempt, the sales girl was really cute tho, might have to go back and have a go later in the week.

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Just a quick report - was out with a girl I know, very quiet and reserved type. To get a base line I wanted to see what happened with no mones and half way through the interaction add a new blend.

For the first hour or so at the bar I was doing all the talking, not getting much out of her. Go to the bathroom spray a mix of IO and IH @ 2:1 which I premixed in a to go for the sake of carrying less bottles.

Within a minute or so of my return she was chatting away like a … idk, whatever chats a lot. This was a huge change because this is usually not at all the case, I was like fark this stuff is good :slight_smile:

So I have a record of it - IO + IH @ 2:1 (2ml IO, 1ml IH) mixed in a to go bottle. Each spray should deliver 2/3 IO and 1/3 IH - used 3 sprays so would be equal to 2 sprays IO and 1 spray IH. Used IO a fair bit before and never had much of a reaction - this seems to do the trick, very interested to try 6 or maybe even more sprays.

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Note to self: check all to go bottles before using them. Lost half my mix above and half a bottle of mx297 due to bottles that don’t screw on properly :frowning:

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Hi moses,
Iv been there with leaky bottles, have you tried wrapping around the bottle a few times with sellotape, works for me :wink:

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Have been doing that since my little spillage episode, also much more careful about how I store them now. Upright at all times :smiley:

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Quick note before I forget, had Ammo x 3 and IS x 3 on at a wedding the other day and had comments from people I hardly knew about how good I looked and how attractive I was. Unfortunately they were all men lol.

Hot waitress there, had great eye contact kept staring at me and smiling. That was the only female ‘hit’ I got the whole night. By the time I got around to trying an approach she had disappeared tho … C’est La Vie

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I know I should be using 3x Ammo…maybe more, haven’t gone higher because of the strong smell of cologne, but last night I decided on…

2X Ammo
4X IS
1D A314

Weather: Damn hot night!
Self Effects: Minimal - felt a little ‘smiley’ for a few mins after application, didn’t last long.

Notes: Met 3 girls I know (not really well 3 or 4 meetings, but they invited me) at a bar just after they had finished dinner, sat down and just started chatting.

I noticed within a few minutes of sitting down one of the girls kept edging away from me. Kept pulling her chair slightly away from mine. This went on for about 10 minutes until she was literally as far away as she could get. She wasn’t overly friendly or cold, conversation just continued as normal. She just wanted to get away. Nothing obvious I could notice one way or the other from girls 2 or 3. The entire interaction was weird…there was an overall sense that these girls were ‘tolerating’ my presence certainly not enjoying it. The best way I can describe it is… I felt like if this had been a cold approach / pickup attempt I would have been shot down with extreme prejudice.

Thoughts?

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How old were they? I’m a year older than you are and I’ve had similar reactions from younger women with a similar mix. Did you attempt to interact with them at all? Were there any other factors at play? Like were they getting along with each other ok and just not you?

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Ages 25 - 28.

Getting along with each other fine, I wouldn’t say it was really awkward or anything like that. Just not the general friendliness I have come to expect. Don’t think I’m being paranoid. Never really engaged in conversation, they seemed to want to end whatever topic I brought up quickly and move on to a conversation with one of the others.

Previously have had a few good interactions with all 3 under similar conditions. So it certainly feels like a mone thing, since its the only thing different that I can think of. Can you elaborate on your experiences with similar mixes zest?

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OK been testing this all week now…fuckin HELL!!!

A314 x 2DR
SoE - approx 20 inches

Need to get a dropper bottle for this SoE, can’t dose properly with the stupid roller ball thing. Wondering how many inches equate to one drop with SoE, seen people say anywhere from 4 - 6ish inches is about 1 drop, if anyone can confirm this would love to know.

I’ll just give a general over view of my experiences with this mix.

Self Effects: I actually get a decent kind of response, that lasts :slight_smile: Feel calm and confident (even more so than usual) Seems like my mind is a little clearer.

More respect from others. Interactions with anyone I deal with always go very smoothly.

Had multiple attraction hits from women.

  1. Was waiting at the physiotherapist for my appointment. No one else in the waiting room. Heaps of seats empty - Women in early 30’s came in and sat right next to me. Got called in like 20 seconds later so didn’t get a chance to notice much.

  2. Receptionist at the same place, keep stumbling over words and asking me the same questions over and over. Seemed very nervous around me. Considering I was observing her interactions with others and they were all very professional I found this unusual.

  3. Met a gorgeous Israeli girl, she couldn’t stay away from me and telling me how much we connected, how right it felt. Of course I quickly got her number and lined up another meeting.

  4. Second meeting with above girl, spent afternoon together ended up back at her place. I did throw on 1.5 sprays TUTH before we got back to her place. Other than that it was my A314 and SoE mix. Don’t really think the TUTH made any difference, needless to say a good time was had by all and she was even hotter than I originally thought :slight_smile:

I’m sure there is other stuff, but I can’t think of anything else right now. I’m loving this mix at the moment !