Can anyone explain the issue surrounding people wearing tuth and getting aggression from other males ?
I have seen this in reviews for this product and several posts on the forum. For some reason , males get angry when you wear this and want to pick fights with you or something. Is there a certain limit to how much you should spray and could it be the overdose of # of sprays that causes this effect. I figure stick to between half and 1 spray.
Should this be combined with cttm or IS to to mitigate those effect? or , should it be combined with a314 to show dominance and power against those who feel aggressive toward you. Or maybe 1spray of each : cttm(or IO) + a314 + tuth ???
It seems the effects of female attraction work but simultaneously attract anger and aggression from males.
TUTH is mainly Androstenone and yes, none can trigger competitive and aggressive behaviour in other males. Environmental factors also play a part and you may find negative responses more common in places where inhibitions are lower - eg pubs, clubs etc. The self-effects of none can also promote behaviours in the wearer that can contribute to escalation.
There is no way we can easily say how much to wear or not wear as that is something you need test alongside your own body chemistry/personality to work out for yourself. Remember that a younger guy generally produces more none than an older guy, so consequently needs less to go into OD.
You can moderate the none with all the other pheros you mention but I wouldn’t advise you mix IO and A314 as that weakens the A314 vibe to a point where it simply becomes a waste of product.
Wearing A314 & none is a good way of signaling dominance but you better be ready to be congruent with it and to stand-up for yourself as anyone offering-out on you is going to assume you will be able to back-up your sig. I can generally get away with it but I’m built like the proverbial brick shithouse and can deploy the right body language and manner to make someone think twice - however I do recognise that can be a dangerous strategy that in most cases I’d rather avoid, so I only wear the likes of IJ/A314 when I really feel the need to let my inner bastard out!
I Dont mean to bump an old thread - but Just wanted to follow up with another question
I have wore A314 many times without an aggression / violence problems from others. Why would Tuth be any different ? Is a314 just balanced better in chemicals?
I am not the type of to get aggressive for no reason , nor pick battles if they aren’t necessary. But , how fast and strong can tuth be in starting problems with others and should it be combined with something such as IS or cttm?
Because A314 is mainly rone - which projects a mature/capable/respectable/fatherly vibe.
Which it totally different to the none in TUTH which is a much more raw effect and far more likely to trigger aggressive/competitive behaviour.
I suggest you go and re-read the store pages to get an idea of the huge differences between TUTH and A314 - They are very different products.
There is no telling how long it can take for someone to get aggressive to none or at what dose. For some it may be very fast - seconds/minutes (esp with a few drinks in them) and very obvious, others will need prolonged exposure and escalate their noxious behaviour slowly and of course many others will have no problems at all.
IME it is always best to use a moderator if you are using TUTH outside its intended purpose (established partners) and yes, IS, CTTM and the socials are excellent for that.
Sorry if this is off subject but you said something interesting there.
It’s funny you say that Mobo. I’ve been using using A314 as a base at work for months and even when I went without it and wore Ammo/IS/IO for going out, I started to get really annoyed by the IO effects I was seeing some of the time from others. It was like I was getting a hit off the IO and nothing else from some women, too chatty/friendly no sexual vibe at all, almost like they were slightly high on it as they prattled away at me. Since I discovered MX297 I haven’t used a single spray of IO. It gives more of the high status feel but also chatty and more relaxed vibe that affects both men and women and also myself for a change, which often really helps with my shyness.
In fact my “set it and forget it” mix lately has been 2 drops A314/ 1 MX297 at work and 1 Drop A314/ 2 MX297 everywhere else with a togo of TUTH in my pocket when I go somewhere social, just in case it might be called for. It seems like it may have an especially strong effect on rich daddy’s girls. I’ve seen compliant/ “please pay attention to me” behavior from one girl that has always been just a little out of reach. It didn’t even occur to me at the time but later I realized her father was indeed a pretty alpha/high status guy in local politics.
