unpleasant effect . need help. advice and tips.

Thanks Guys for the valuable tips and ideas far.

Sorry for not be able to post some replies sooner as were busy with family stuff and recent TAiwan just had biggest typhoon this year. Were helping people and family fix up some stuff.

ok, now this time for some post about what used for the last couple days while at work during the typhoon came. May need more advice and tips if its not too much trouble from you guys.

so far i have IG , IO , IH (2X), IS(2X), AMMO (to go pack 2X). MX297 (to go pack), A314 ( ran out of it, waiting for restock), TUTH and just got P83 and CTTM2. And I am a 36 years old Asian living in Taiwan.

So i was working at the lounge in Taipei city full of Asians during the typhoon came( sadly no day off, still needs to work while other shops r closed for few days due to the high wind) and funny thing is, lounge still packed with customers. I usually working as a bartender as part time over there, but today they want me to be the bouncer, not a big deal since it is easier job and i still do gets the tips from the bar sales. So i decied to try out some combo today and the result isnt pleasant.

i used mx 297 as base 5ml to go size
1 shot on back of hair, 1 shot on the back of neck( really wanted to use A314 but as we all know, its not available yet)

2 spray IG 1x
1shot on side of the neck and 1 shot on the left wrist

1 spry IS 2x
on the right wrist

2 spry ammo togo 2x
1 shot on the top of the head
1 shot to the upper chest

1 spry p83 30 mL: 30 micrograms
1 full spry on the front of the neck

and last, CTTM2 to go size 2 spry
both spry on both back of the hands

ok , so the first 15 min was pleasant talking with VP of the lounge and even asked me if i can go with him to one of the lounge his friend own and want me to try the manager position there. I was surprised since the VP( Vice President) of the lounge doesnt usually talk to me. But today asked me to go downstairs at the lobby to walk around with him and he brought up the job position stuff and asked me if i can take the manager postion and work at his lounge at the same time. Of course i said yes. After some small talk, we went upstairs, and i do my usual work stuff. People were really nice, girls were staring, co worker were chatty around me VP were giving me smiles and fist bump sometimes asking if im doing ok for the first 20min, then right after that, things started getting a bit weird, no eye contact from who ever, customers, co workers. And noticeable ghost statues, no one would care if i needed help, no one will want to be near me unless i walk up to them and start to chat, but
then people seems impatient and annoyed by me.

Not sure which mix in the combo was not suppose to be there. Did i OD on any mix?

Need some advice.

Thanks in advance guys.

i think you used way too much product… it’s recommended to start with small doses of a single product before you try mixing things.

Not only did you OD, in a rather gross, confusing and overly social manner, you combined IG and MX297 in the same mix - which is one of the worst, most confusing/unproductive combos I’ve ever tried. Only MX297/A314 is worse.

You also had a lot of social moderators in there and any Androstenne (ie from Ammo) will be so-far back in the mix as to be pretty usless.

Broadly, base your mixes on IG or MX297 and you will do a lot better - and to begin with, be very careful what you add to your MX297 as it doesn’t take a lot of other mones to screw its vibe completely - A little Ammo, or TUTH is mostly all you need.

yup, now i learn. =(

Found out in the worse way, wasnt happy with myself that day. But wasnt sure where it went wrong until now. Thanks for the tip, now i know mx297 cant mix with IG or wrose A314. Noted!

Cause of the bad experience on that day, I stopped using some of the products i have that im not familiar with. Instead I tried a different stuff that i used to use, and those were put in the desk drawer for a year. Amazingly its is still good.

Alpha 7 oil-unsented ( 1 drop split behind each year) and Sent of ero ( 5strips 4 inch long line around the neck) , plus IH (2X) half sprayon each back of the hand, 1 spray IS 2x on the back of the head on hair. It went pretty well for whole day , last about 8 hours i would think. people around me were friendly, taking interesting in my conversation. Girls r staring when i walk around them . Got a pretty cute Japanese girl’s phone # and FB, met few new friends around the work area during lunch time. it was really a pretty good day. Thanks to you guys, no wi understand i should start small and it does go a long way. Still needs to find my sweet spot and also the best combo for myself.

Would love to Have the A314 to Replace the Alpha 7 or even use them together as i heard they goes well together, but i guess Alpha 7 will have to do now while we all waiting on the restock for A314.

Thanks for the great tip again mobocaster.

One more question if u dont mind, With Ammo, As i am a Asian and live around them as well. What will be best for daily use for work with a bit sexual and respect from people around me for male and female with the stuff i have?

i have IG , IO , IH (2X), IS(2X), AMMO (to go pack 2X). MX297 (to go pack), TUTH, P83 and CTTM2

best is to read and read more on this forum, about the products you owe (or want to have).

If you spare some time and read about Mx297, u will find its best used alone or with only of some products .

so as Mr Expert (MOBO) said you confused ur targets with too many mones.

try and combine those products who are already tried and tested.

Keep posting regarding further advances . take care

Ammo and IG is a usable mix - With IG as the primary as an Asian and around Asians. Mainly Westerers - try Ammo as the primary. Emotionally engaging but sociable mixes also do well with Asians, so the IH/IS combo with IG (younger) or A314 (older) is also a goer. Westerners, again sexualise it with TUTH.

A7 is a good one with A314 but its still heavygoing/mature. IG instead could lighten/socialise it a bit better, esp around younger ones. A7 is a different kind of status to A314 - Don’t confuse the aggressive/in your face, none-based status of A7 with the smooth, untroubled, in-control, collected and masterful Rone-based status of A314.

I OD big like this to when I first started out to. In all honesty it is actually a good thing so you can see what it is like and just a learning experience.

Yes, that’s very true - The odd OD helps establish your limits in any given situation but IME most guys are looking for a reasonable set of results without too many extremes when just starting out.