there is not much threads on IJ. this pheromone seems like it would be an interesting one to play around with. thing is where do you even use IJ ? what is it even used for ? IJ doesnt seems to be as popular as the other pheromones on here
IJ is like a hypertrophied TUTH with some steering pheromones thrown in. It used to contain copulins many years ago—for that “freshly copulated” vibe—but not anymore. IJ is a product designed to give you an alpha male vibe and reactions to match: attraction from women, and respect from men.
But without the copulins and with the steering phermones being undisclosed, it seems more cost-effective to just buy TUTH and use more of it, and doctor it with EOW from The Other Place, if need be. By itself, IJ is a relatively pricey product. Plus, the name suggest a highly niche use.
I am going to try some. Got it yesterday. Haven’t been doing any experimenting since a few months ago, when I tried some instant honesty. Didn’t notice any effects, so it was disappointing.
IJ is about the very last phero I’d be considering for social anxiety - Yes, it might well have very useful self effects but its None content and abrasive/confrontational nature will probably push a lot of people further away from you, thus making your attempts at sociability even harder.
I usually get people giving me dirty looks on the street for no reason just because the area I live in so I’m prolly going to avoid this. maybe in the future I’ll give it a try who knows
how many times did you try IH ? like where I live it’s winter so I can’t fully get an idea of the value of pheromones yet.
I’m going to not use anymore until spring.
actually I’ll use tuth for casual sex etc
ammo for going out.
and when I find a new job will use ig or alpha 314.
other than that I’ll wait until the weather hits 50 degrees and Higher
when I made this post I was considering getting the to go to see but with what you wrote plus i don’t want to get into issues with people I’m going to stay away from it for now
How many sprays of IH did you use and what size, who did you try it on and age, and how long after application did you test? IH deepens the bond and trust, and deepens conversation between people, some times disinhibiting them about what they talk about even strangers. Its regularly found that people share things they otherwise would never have said and held it back instead for example.
I suggested some stuff to look at in the IO thread. When its really cold just wont get much hits outside, but when your inside it will work normally once you warm up. For example, it was 11 degrees outside or so, I let P96 cook for about an hour on my skin indoors, then went to a store, so about 1 1/2 hours after application got a good hit I posted in the womans section P96 thread. Sometimes mones can take 30 mins to 2 hours to work most effectively so wait 2-3 hours before thinking a dose isnt working. I’d start with 1 spray of tuth, wait a day, 2 sprays of tuth, until you find the dose that works best. People with really low T might need 3-4, others may need 1. Very muscular/high T guys may need none and just socials to make them more approachable and friendly instead. Do the same with ammo. Keep reporting in your journal…
I try to follow the same method each time. I spray back of both hands one light spray. Then I wipe them on the bottom of my neck under jaw.
the IH, I tried multiple times, in different places. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to try it in a one on one situation, or in more intimate situation.
Now, I did try the IJ yesterday. I got the phero-head, and it was more distracting than anything. I’ll have to use some more to get rid of that, because I don’t feel so good with it.
Only went to hardware store and roamed around some. Didn’t notice much.
A couple of years back I tried the Ammo, on a tryst. and I guess I’m always thinking that I’m gonna have a crazy time like that, so when I don’t see anything overtly happening, I’m a little disappointed.
They sent me the scented one, and I’m a bit sensitive to the fragrance. I hate to complain about it, but I’m pretty sure I specified unscented.
Lately, I haven’t had any energy or inclination to do much mingling, so any experimenting is in a store environment.
PS: I can be pretty much of a jerk without using IJ, I wanted to try it more as to see what would happen, with some jerk + on me 
Well, it’s not that IJ is bad, it’s that there aren’t many venues where you can safely use it. It’s too high in androstenone to be usable at work, with friends of either sex, around family, or in social groups. I once owned it, and it took me the longest to go through the bottle. Although at the time, I was younger and had more natural androstenone to begin with. It might be more useful today, when I’m well into my 30’s.
One of the best places to use IJ is a strip club. It gives you a hard-charging alpha vibe, which dancers will find to be a breath of fresh air, compared to the supplicating beta vibe most customers put out. Possibly in glitzy nightclubs too. The kind where people are snooty beyond snooty, and only a strong alpha male vibe can plow through it.
Somebody mentioned it used to have copulins. Maybe they should have left them in there.
No strip clubs nearby. Not much of anything except a couple of nasty bars, and I don’t drink.
IH should see better results in 1-1. Its basically during a conversation you will see the effect the most, not in iois or walking past people. IO gets others to open and be more chatty and laughing/fun, IH has a deep convo that is connected and meaningful, also adding to comfort, trust, and bonding such as in combinations. Dont be surprised if people share secrets/info they otherwise would hold back like a truth serum a bit. From 1-5 1x sprays, start with 2.
I havent yet tried IJ, but others like SteveO talks about using it positively in his journal. Its heavy on enone, so might not need more then a spray, or two. Start with 1. Although some people at higher age need more sprays and will see more effects only with more. For example, tuth might need 1 at age 18 with higher T, 2 in 30s, and 4 in 50s… But if someone in 50s is still muscular and higher T, they may still only need 1 or 2…So its always best to start at 1, wait 2 hours and see if people respond… Skip a day between with Enone products just during testing to find sweet spot, this is just because enone can last until next day. No issue normally, just in testing it may throw off actual dose that works best for you. Maybe start a journal so others can further help.
You can check your order in the store, logging in on the left and then orders & tracking on the right, then click search button to see all the orders to check what you ordered. If they sent the wrong item somehow, you can open a ticket. Unscented is actually STEALTH now, which means it will lower the scent of the natural pheromones while extending the diffusion to better reach others noses. The stealth should be great for sensitive people. https://a314.com/
Good information, thank you.
IJ example - Four sprays IJ and two or three drops A314 - one of the legendary revs as it was a few years back.
I was in a large and heaving bar on a Friday night but somehow I had a good ten feet of space each side of me at the long bar and a near perfect semicircle of clear space behind me! The lady I was seeing responded beautifully but her pal was so scared of the sig that she just cowered beside us all night. Nobody but nobody tried to open on her either - which was unusual as she was very good looking.
I did feel great though!