what pheromones are good for...

Making you more outgoing and more comfortable around people?

And verse veisi, reps to you!

lol, that was meant to be a question, my bad. thanks though lol

The nols I suppose. Instant Shine too, to a lesser, perhaps better to say different, extent. Better to spray them on your neck than on your wrists or body. If you are alright with it, you can spray your face or spray a little on your finger and wipe the area under your nose with it. I use this last method sometimes when I’m feeling some social anxiety. Not a panacea - won’t work if you have deep-rooted social anxieties - but it works well most of the time.

Instant openness and instant honesty. Openness works better for me, but honesty is a good product too. The conversation level is more subdued with instant honesty, with instant openness convo is all over the place and fun.

You can read more about both products and androstenol in the boot camp sticky.

instant openness didnt work for me

It worked for me when sprayed directly in the armpits or on face. Try it if you haven’t already.

Sometimes you just have to jumpstart the pheromones with action. It’s hard to do if you’re shy. I know because I am shy. I’ve had to get out of my comfort zone and risk looking like an idiot or saying dumb things just to try to get conversations started. But then, something happens. You manage to get people in your cloud for a few minutes and then they take over the conversation. It becomes a whole lot easier when you shift into the the nodding, saying “uh-huh”, and listening part.

You might benefit from looking into some seduction material. There is a lot of good stuff about opening conversations and how to deal with the anxiety that comes from it. Not all the advice and methods offered in seduction is strictly for gaining ground to eventually get laid. There is a lot of good stuff about general social interaction that has helped me tremendously.

Pheromones hit in a way that sometimes can’t be seen unless social filters in the target allow open reactions to come out. Really, the only way for that to happen is to be proactive in action. A tip I’ve read somewhere for dealing with shyness is to go out to a mall and make a point to look at least 100 random people in the eye as you pass and say “Hi!” as cheerfully as you can. Add a little “special sauce” to the routine, and you might be pleasantly surprised.

-D4

When you said that it worked for you when sprayed on these spots, do you mean that it affecting you or affecting others?

I knoyw some people here might flame me for this, but try an OD dose and lower from there.

Also, I have found that nols work best, on myself that is, if I am being active, like dancing in a club or something like that.

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There is nothing wrong with that approach, in my view, Gemfire.