What pheromones do MHarris and Jasmin use?
Whichever ones they want to, of course. lol
I was hoping to get the inside scoop on the ultimate pheromone recipe. I can just imagine Michael Harris walking around, bunch of girls looking at him, following him around LOL.
God, everything.
I cycle through quite a bit of the products, and also test out quite a few putatives.
I donât know if you know this, but the main reason this company was started was because I wanted products that would work well and consistenly for me.
I wanted the worldâs finest pheromones, combined with the best possible fragrances and delivery vehicle agents. I wanted them dosed I wanted âconversionsâ to be in check.
There were a whole bunch of things I wanted. I wanted lots of things that made sense to me that no other brands were doing. Waiting around solved nothing.
Like many businesses, they were probably more concerned about doing what made sense financially, rather than producing product they could use themselves.
Thatâs fine, I suppose⌠everyone needs to survive⌠But that approach never produced a product I was really overjoyed about.
Instead, I have the philosophy you should make products good enough for yourself (made to your own highest ideals) and then figure out a way to make money from them.
As to what I use, myself⌠Again, everything, at one time or other.
I wear A314 when Iâm all business, and wants things to be painless. Itâs like a card VIP card you can wear, to be let âright on throughâ security.
Shine and Shine based mixes were a favorite of mine for awhile, if only due to how they made me feel.
Unfortunately, tt seems that the âoutcome indepedentâ confidence Shine gives, though, can also make more than a little unaware of others having strong reactions to it. 
For attention, I like Ammo v1.0 better than the current one (1.5). But for intimate situations, I like 1.5 more.
Recently, I enjoy a very basic mix I have in a base of Akuto. It uses lots of androstenol, a moderate amount of the key components in Shine, and a (very) small amount of androstenone. I should release this as a tester.
I also have another mix of it, similar to the above, except that itâs rone heavy, which makes it much more âlovey doveyâ. The kind of mix that makes your girlfriend want to cuddle with you all day.
Speaking of girlfriends, Instant Female Magic has been âmagicâ for me for keeping the peace.
Heh.
Iâll say this. For attraction, it tends to be the simplest and most complex mixes that work the best.
i.e., the âmiddle mixesâ donât. The âmiddle mixesâ are best for normal socialization and/or business.
A314 is a âmiddle mixâ. Very refined, but often best when mixed for sexual purposes (so it goes more in a symphonic direction).
Alone, I wouldnât call it very sexual. Sexy, maybe. On the other hand, you will see it used in huge, symphonic mixes to good effect.
Also, simple, or even âbadâ mixes of a very few pheromones can be excellent for gathering attention. The type of mixes nature would never make.
Itâs sort of like painting yourself blue⌠but with pheromones. With simple, high dose mixes, you can make yourself a bit of an oddball⌠and, for better or worse, that will garner attention.
What is the definition of a âsymphonicâ mix? Is there a minimum number of unique pheromones it needs?
Time will yield a more exact definition than we have now. At the moment, I think itâs almost best to define by example.
Iâd call your Seduction mix symphonic. Youâre making symphonic mixes, because youâre combining already refined mixes to make your resultant mix.
Many of the products your using have quite a bit of âsteeringâ, too â generally small amounts of auxillary pheromones that help to âsteerâ the effect.
Overall, this makes your end mix very complex. It would be hard to make that mix with raw, siingle pheromones.
Not to say that people donât do it.
PheroQuirk is well known for his symphonic mixes, combing both many single pheromones from the research series, and refined commercial products. He uses almost everything under the sun. While his mixes sometimes fail, youâll notice heâs absolutely swept women away with them, too. Sort of like good, classical music.
So on one end, you have really simple mixes. Sort of like a band with two members. A recent example would be the âWhite Stripesâ, who mimiced old classic rock, in an even more stripped down manner.
You might even have just someoneâs voice as the centerpiece, with the music being incidental. Barry White is known as a âpanty peelerâ
The other end, you have a symphony orchestra. So many pieces working beautifully, you sort of awe people with the vastness and complexity of it all. An astronaut seeing the earth from outspace for the first time, where he can âsee everythingâ at once, probably has a similar reaction.
Thereâs many ways to skin a cat.
If I think about it, in youth, many kids find volkswagens appealing⌠even a little erotic. A simple choice for teen and 20something love.
On the other end of things, you have over the top, high end Jaguars, TVRs, Maseratis, Ferraris, Maebachs, etc., that have a sort of âaphrodisiacâ quality.
In the middle, you have practical cars. Toyotas and the like. Nothing particularly âsexyâ about those cars whatsoever.
Aphrodisia tends to be utterly simple, or mind blowingly complex. Either catches our attention and can get our juices going.
In the early days of Androtics, I couldnât get out of the lab without MHarris grabbing me, hosing me down with some random mix he made, and pushing me out the door with no guidance other than âTell me what happens.â
It looks like, with his MX system, that heâs doing the same for all of you!
My typical phero usage is more for functional things, like
- keeping my focus in check (with TAF/P79)
*]or getting ready to roar and take no $#!T from anybody (ISexi/A) - useful for when I have to call and scream at credit card companies or solicitors!
Thanks for the insights guys!
MHarris (or Jasmin), I hate to go offtopic, but is there anything in the last crop of putatives (P74-P80) that you thought has been missed? I know you donât like to lead anyone (especially with molecules on which you may have so little quality data on) but I am thinking only one person has tested P77 (SwingerMD) and found no pheromonal effect with this one. Also, P76 and 80 seem to have been under-tested alone. Can you give us any insights on what you think P76, P77 or P80 might do?
I just hate to see these forgotten (and something important missed) as the new batch of putatives come out.
Visionary
when creating a symphonic mix, is there a key to the level of pheromones mixed to get optimum results? would it be more effective to make a mix using 'mones with, for example, 50 mcg/spray than using the same 'mones at a lower level? Or are the ratios of the 'mones used more important?
Small doses are better, large doses may have huge negative effects, like the time I applied 15 sprays. OD will always happen at large doses, I believe they sell 50 mcg sprays and the 5000 mcg only for experts that want to make their own home made batches of pheromones. Ratios are more important !
In general, for a symphonic mix, youâd want more pheromones @ a lower dosage.
50mcg is going to far to much of some mones, in my view. (in Tacitusâ view, which is at least as good, if not superior to my own view, the party doesnât even get started without 100mcg of most mones â but keep in mind that he has methods for slowing diffusion, thus the higher dosages are tempered with a time release effect)
50mcg+ is good for something like alpha nol.
Most Iâd get in the 2.5 to 20mcg per spray range. Some pheromones Iâd get in the nanogram range (like TAF).
Also, more sprays of lower dosages tends to work better than less sprays of higher dosages. You cover more surface area of the skinâs stratus corneum, which spreads more molecules over a heated surface area, and thus allows for higher diffusion & delivery of pheromone molecules.
Think of a thin layer of water on the road, over a large surface area⌠vs a deep puddle. Which will evaporate first?
Ya⌠no mention of P74⌠sup with that
P74 wasnt introduced much until last winter/ this spring that i know of, and MHarris hasnt been active on the forum since december.
use the search for P74,theres quite a few threads on it 
Hey Lor, did you notice Michael said nanogram doses for TAF. Whatâs up with that? 50 mcg feels about right to me.
im jealous.
i cant do more than 12.5mu of it without getting hyper.
50mu ???
you ARE superman !
Maybe I am! 
I have even tried 100 mcg at a time, with effects not much different from 50 mcg. I like it more in a mix though and not much as a standalone.
you really ought to read steveoâs post when he used like 50mu at chiliâsâŚ
he freaked.
i wonder if you have become more acclimated in some way, or if we are all just that different.
more than 12.5 and i am distracted rather than enhanced, but i think Dolly has used 2 sprays, equalling 25mu, but i can be wrongâŚshe may have had a different dose.might have been 10mu per spray.
i know that for me it makes everything better; but in what dose is the questionâŚ
I read Steveoâs post and was really surprised at his abreaction. You are right I guess we are all different in our reactions. These days I am always topping off all my mixes with TAF and sometimes with same amount of P79. I just want to make sure that I am not missing any reactions (TAF) and not missing any opportunities due to a lack of impulse (P79).
Symphonic Mixes Class 101 (aka Potion Making)
âCan anyone tell me what exactly a symphonic mix is? Anyone? Anyone besides the insufferable know-it-all Ms. Granger? Perhaps you, Mr. Potter?â
As MHarris has stated, a symphonic mix is a literal âorchestraâ of different pheromones and products combining their individual effects together in a reinforcing and blended fashion as to produce new, often unexpected results.
Think of all the components you are using as instruments in your band, and you are the singer. While you determine and guide how the song is sung, your band of instruments creates the atmosphere and backdrop, and how they mesh together and blend determines how well the song will turn out.
As for concentrations, you should have sufficient quantities to generate an effect, but managing the intensity of one component versus another (also known as ratios) can affect how a mix turns out. Too much Androstenone may overpower the softer pheromones in the mix and steer it towards a mix that generates a darker aura and effects. Too much Alpha Androstenol and people may not take you seriously because theyâre laughing their heads off.
My symphonic mixes have individual component concentrations ranging from 0.5 mcg to up to 10 mcg. Even at such low levels, they do have a definite effect because you have to remember that it is the total effect of the mix thatâs important rather than the individual components. 1 mcg of P74 may not seem like much, but it may be enough to help produce one building block of the mix, which when combined with all the other building blocks, produces a complete and potent symphonic mix.
Of course, the number of components also plays a significant part of the effectiveness of a mix, and adjustments to starting concentrations have to be made to compensate for them. Generally, the more components you have in a mix, the stronger your initial concentrations of your components have to be in order to reach the desired diluted strength in the mix. Using 15 mcg/spray concentration pheromones may be good for a 5-10 component symphonic mix, but when you get up to 20 or even 30 components, you will probably need starting concentrations up in the range of 50-75 mcg/spray.
My most complex symphonic mixes have up to 36 components, and my starting concentrations tend to be in the 50 mcg/spray range. Of course, it generally takes more than 45 minutes to make a batch, but any good potion maker will invest the time needed for the perfect brew! Iâve had my share of bad mixes to go with the good, but when they do work, the effects of some of these mega-mixes are just insane! 