What's in P99 and P81?

Okay… Now, P99 and P81 has been so little known.. that there’re almost little to no info in this forum - either that, or i’ve been searching wrongly.

Before I carry out any experiments… well.. anyone knows anything about them?

Also see the following post from tacitus (though he was using P89 as well).
**I look forward to hearing about your carefully planned high dosage experments with P81 and P99 deriw!:slight_smile: **

A novel P81/P89 experience
tacitus (January 21, 2007):
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A novel P81/P89 experience
I added these two in to my standard sexmix brew… noticed something both cool and unusual… aside from the expected great sex… we sort of entered “old settled relationship mode” with a feeling of having been with each other and coexisted through thick and thin for ages… now, granted, I’ve known this girl for a good six or seven years but we’ve never been together in an LTR mode… although we have always had good rapport, never any major disagreements… she’s part native american, 50%… and I know Amerind girls… and they aren’t exactly simple creatures, media fantasies about dancing with wolves or dancing with with primal energies notwithstanding… so I dose up with this (by now) pretty damn complex pheromone mix, and I’ve never given it a shot with either P81 or P89 so I think, what the heck, let’s take this for a spin… so we’re nekkidly nude, hanging out, greasing each other up, and yes, getting aroused (like, doh) but also shooting the breeze, a sitting around on the porch on a June evening mood, very solid, grounded… she even felt physically very solid to my hands, almost like we were made of old pieces of wood or something, and we’re having this really good, solid, muscular, earth sex then hanging out, with this solid sense of being with each other… almost the diametric opposite of the dilated eye, spacey romance of Alpha Androstenol, a wholly different sort of connectedness… to which I’m thinking… hmmmm… yeah… there a lot of women who badly need this firm footed grounded mood to rest their emotive states of mind… especially when you have the estratatraenol/P74/Alpha Androstenol pink cloud of love goddess thing turned loose…"

tacitus (January 21, 2007):
“dosage of 50 mu for both… now for the average user… maybe start around 10 mu and ramp up ?”

whoa! 60mcg’s it shall be then :smiley: i’ll try them out tomorrow in school, and see if anyone uses innuendo on me, too :smiley:

Yea and remember to not test them together so you know which one is getting which result. Also make sure you are in an environment with (preferably multiple) people interacting with you (say a lunch with a few friends) straight after you put on P81 or P99. Do not waste the molecules on just hanging out in class IMHO. Remember most of the putatives don’t reliably last for more than an hour on the skin so make the most of that first hour after a heavy application!

Looking forward to reading about your high dose putative findings man!:slight_smile: It’s like you are going out there with a phero signature no Singaporean has gone with before…

Visionary: of course :smiley: imma test them individually lol!

yep, i get what you mean.. because they’ll probably be not as strong as before. in my classes, we’re always doing stuff in groups, so it’s quite alot of close interaction :smiley:

hahahaha! perhaps it will be fun :wink: or perhaps i’ll end up in deep shit after tomorrow and.. disappear after getting whacked by someone aggressive who sniffed in my pheros! =x

okay, six sprays (10mcg x 6 = 60mcg) of P99 this morning as i stepped out of the house (like 30 mins ago) without any special, say, well, basically.. its a monday. so we all look like dorks on mondays.

reached the lifts - a lady (around 30+?) was fumbling with her bags.. playing with it somehow, playfully. hahaha. interesting to look it.

..and i walked over to the bus stop and..suddenly, two ladies (mid 20’s) turned and look straight at me, stared for a while, and blushed and turned. hahaha this is getting fun!

inside the bus - EVERYONE is looking at me, i get eyes from all the gals :smiley:

so loving the attention. lol. however, in crowded areas, P99 seems to be diffusive? the effect i get somehow doesn’t seem as good as when in small areas/groups?

went to get some drinks form a store, a gal was already queueing there - two others joined her, and all 3 looked at me straight for a few seconds before un-freezing and resuming their usual talking. :smiley:

what next? 100mcg? :slight_smile: please advice!

Hey deriw thanks for the detailed report and reps for trying this!

Now that we both know that 60-100 mcg of P99 is attention grabbing in some way perhaps we should try to establish in what way does it grab attention.

What is going through people’s minds when they stare? For example is it like TAA where you are suggesting a picture of youthful physical attractiveness, is it like high-dose Alpha-Nol (think Spaceland) where you are just spacey and silly, or is it like P83 which seems to shut down ‘normal thinking’ temporarily and often results in DIHLs.

What I would try is this.
Get your Instant Honesty out first. Keep in mind high dose IH (even medium 2-3 spray dose for me) can make one unfocused so preferably don’t use it just before you are driving or doing something important (like giving a presentation).

Put on 2-3 sprays of IH alone. Then say 30 minutes after applying the IH say you are in the middle of a group gathering you should have established your baseline with IH. Rapport with you should be strong, people will not be so careful with what they say.

Right in the middle of the group gathering excuse yourself to go into the bathroom. Then apply say 10 mcg of P99 in the bathroom. We don’t want to waste your bottle all at once I say. When you come back to the group gathering you should notice a change in people’s behaviour - someone sooner or later should mention something about you. You want to find out what is going through people’s minds with P99 on. If 10 mcg of P99 is not enough to cause the reactions you were getting today, perhaps you could try upping the dose, being careful not to waste more than needed as your bottle will run out quickly otherwise!

Good Report Hot_wired :smiley: I’m impressed there :slight_smile: Even i don’t have P99 but i didn’t expect it will create a big difference there. Reps for this report from your fellow phero buddy :slight_smile:

Thanks Visionary and PhatSounds!

Wow.. I suddenly feel enlightened.. the sheer strategy of using Instant Honesty to get words out of people’s mouth. Evil laugh This is going to be really fun. Hehehe!

I shall try and report back tomorrow! Thanks for the feedback guys!

P81. My first application of this was between 50 and 100mcg (sputtering initial spray phenomena). It was slightly energyzing. Things appeared more three dimensional before my eyes. I liked this at first, but over the next half hour reality just seemed to take on cold, hard edge. I sprayed 30mcg of P86 to see if that would warm things up, but paradoxically, it had the opposite effect. I turned on the late night talk shows. I usually find Craig Ferguson amusing. He keeps me watching long after I’d intended to go to bed. But on this occasion he was just annoying. Nothing humorous about P81 it seems.

It was a hot summer’s night. The air conditioning had been out. I was tired. Maybe I just need to try P81 when I am in a better mood. And I think I want to try it in much lower doses to see if it provides an enhancing edge rather than a reptilian sniper’s word view.

Hey Warren thanks for sharing. You are like only the third person on the forum, in the two years since it has been out, to report on P81! Who knows what secrets it holds?

I would be curious as to its effects on others, specifically women. Have you had a chance to have on a hefty P81 dose during/right before being around one or more women (say 50 mcg+)…

That’s interesting that you felt it do something to your vision - I have heard of some of the putatives affecting hearing (ie. P83 and P102) but not vision :open_mouth: really. I think P101 made some people look at ‘shiny’ things but that’s pretty much it as far as I remember…

Looking forward to hearing more on this putative from you!

Also where did deriw from Singapore go? He had such a promising start with P99 on the first day and then no reports on it since? Even if no result is a result here so please tell us if you read this thread…