After foraging through the forum, I know Ammo is what I want to use. Now for the million dollar question. Which does it go better with..IO and IH or with CTTM 2?
I know all three are 50/50 alpha-beta just by reading the posts, however I’m kind of in a fork in the road here.
I honestly don’t know how to answer that question. There are different steering molecules in each of those products. But if I am correct, CTTM2 is still in experimental stage. I haven’t had any luck with CTTM2 yet.
If you want 50/50 I think cttm2 is better then equal parts io and ih, atleast in my experience.
However, if you don’t have any 'nols yet I’d get IO an IH simply because you can experiment more with it and have different ratios. So I voted IH and IO
IO is said to be 70:30% and IH is said to be 30:70%, only cttm2 is 50:50, which is why IO+IH = 50:50
Personally I would go with IO or spaceland, anol is regarded somewhat to creating a sense of friendlyness, and I would assume would offer an extra buffer to ammo but this is somewhat contradicting to the properties of androstenone, found in ammo though not necessairly a bad thing.
As per mixing IO+IH nothing should be differernt to CTTM other than spraying more scent on yourself (which every you got it in) such a neroli due to the double dosages . Also 1+1 = 2sprays of CTTM, there is no inbetween, unless you can half spray them otherwise you applications are in multiples of 2. Mixing them together 1:1 would fix that, IIRC, providing they are the same ‘concentrations’ (total pheromones) but if you dont intend to use them on their own I see little point in not getting CTTM2.
Since CTTM2 is an experimone im not sure if there is anything else added in it that is unknown? Though I do believe it is just 50:50.
the thing is IO and IH combined might be kind of 50/50 alpha/beta, but they also have other buffering agents in it that CTTM2 does not have… that’s what i’ve been lead to believe anyways
Yeah, but if I’m not mistaken there is already a small amount of anol in ammo and there are other steering -mones in there as well. Ammo’s -none is buffered rather well because of that. Adding social mones to the mix is not really a necessity but it can enchance interaction if you get it right.
Lol Sorry. I posted it, read the thread again thinking i miss understood the post but my confusion was from saying all 3 were 50:50 but I think pacman meant io+ih and cttm2 are 50:50. I’m surprised you managed to quote me in the 5 seconds it took me to edit my post
I suspect there is anol in ammo, based on the store info there are two pheromones in ammo that make up 5mcg (66%)of the contents.
I understand it is buffered and as i mentioned, anol as a buffer is somewhat contradicting to the main pheromone in ammo, which is why ammo is balanced and well thought out even if anol is in there. However, out of the two pheromones to select I would personally perfer a more friendlyness vibe ontop, maybe because I believe i look intimidating though mostly because I like spaceland alot.
Should be impossible for IO or IH to have buffering pheromones in it, as the store says it only has two pheromones in it. They may use other types of essential oils, though.
Whats in cttm2, since it is in the experimone series is another question, though i do believe it was clearly stated as 50:50 though i’m no subsititue for an official statement