I shall soon receive my spray.
Is there any way to make the spray diffuse slower?
Like,spraying it and then applying some sort of ointment over?
Thanks again Mobo!
yes. applying lotion with your pheros will make them diffuse slower. So will putting them in your hair or on your clothes. Clothes are not usually recommended, cuz some types of pheros can really cling to clothes and smell funny after washing.
If you are thinking of covering it, use moisturiser. Lotion will likely seal it-in, virtually killing diffusion in temperate environments, unless you are tropical conditions.
If using lotion, apply it first, use as little as you can get away with and give it a few minutes so settle into your skin - thus forming a barrier. Then spray - this works well in normal to fairly hot environments and should noticably prolong activity.
However, from your previous line of questions, I’m wondering if just dosing it down is not better - find the dose that works best in your environment first.
So I have received my ACE stack,along with samples of Bliss and Odyssey.
I applied 1 spray of Evolve XS to my neck.
I went to the mall to buy some things,and I was there for about an hour.
Nothing was out of the ordinary.
Absolutely no one had noticed me in any way,nor did I have any self effects. Sucks.
Is this scented or unscented Evolve?
Daytime environments can be more difficult and it may take longer to see responses - but you should over time.
Scented with FXS or nobility.
I have similar issues, but I have learned to stay patient with it. I am trying ammo (x1 strength, TUTH, IO, SOE, P74, MAG(which I will discontinue) Pheromax, Alpha Maschio…)
I’ve also learn to really watch people’s reaction. If a girl sitting adjacent from me glances me 3 times in 2 hours, I would think this would be a minor hit.(Which it happened just now) However I am in Japan they are excellent at suppressing temptations and their natural feelings during daytime so I will give it a shot in the weekends and nights.
Stay patient man. I understand how you feel. You won’t get hits everyday, and you also have to continue to experiment.
Good luck!
Also take a good look at this thread - “hits” or IOIs can be very subtle and there is a lot of conscious and unconscious responses to watch out for:
How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"
Also, comit this thread to memory - all the basics of effective use are covered and it is worth following the “Sweet Spot” guide to get your best dose for each product:
Shucks,I was looking for obvious hits,like more smiles and looks etc.
I wasn’t really expecting anything drastic,but this is ridiculous.
If I have to sit at a bar,studying girls if they have made some minute changes in their behaviour,according to those directions from the thread,then I might as well toss these pheros into the garbage.
It would be worse for me than before,I usually get a glance,a look,a smile here and there.
I applied one more spray of Evolve last night,and absoultely no one noticed me,and they usually do notice me in most cases,when I am not wearing any pheros.
2 sprays, at 27 is very likely to be well into OD territory, so I’m not surprised there.
Even at my age I find it difficult to use that much spray effectively.
At night I’m more surprised but how well did you wash? Evolve has somwhere around 20mcg of none per spray and that can persist on the skin for some time. Even through a light wash/freshen-up, so it could still have been influencing your dose later-on.
It also has a quality of changing as time goes-on and the buffers expire - becoming much harder hitting.
As you have Ascend and Cohesion, you may find a single spray of one or both a better daytime mix. A314/Cohesion and Ascend/Cohesion have been very productive daytime mixes for me recently - and thay can later be further sexualised by a single spray of Evolve.
A1 hits (cohesion) are also amongst the most physical and easiest to spot of any phero I’ve yet used.
So Androstadienone is the most blatant hitter?
I did 2 sprays Bliss+2 sprays Evolve yesterday.
I think there might have been self effects.
I will need further testing to establish that this happened from the mones but when talking to girls I was:
-totally open
-every word was in the right place
-I didn’t mind paying compliments(disinhibited but in a totally good,normal way)
-conversation kept going smooth
I even chatted up a girl on the street.
I’ve seen her around but haven’t really talked to her before.
She’s older,36.
The conversion was very dynamic and natural,not something that is usual with a stranger.
I was wearing 2 sprays of Bliss+2 sprays of Evolve.
With her was a younger girl,about 22,and she didn’t like me at all.
This one I have met before,and before,she had gave me some signals but something very weak.
This is most likely just a coincidence/placebo,more testing needs to be done!
btw even if these were self-effects,I would like to see some effect on others from these mones.
And what sucks is that I understand that you build tolerance to the self-effects,which will negate the whole thing in a while.
How long does it take before tolerance happens?
Can one avoid tolerance by wearing mones only every 3 or 4 days?
And I’m kinda of worried that I got some effects from Bliss but not from Evolve?
Evolve was the only bottle from which the fluid escaped a little bit during transport.
Could this have destroyed the mones?
I hope not.
Maybe Evlove has it’s place only when you have already done most of the work with social/status mones?
Today:1 Bliss+1 Ascend+1 Evolve
Went to the corner shop in my block.
There’s this really hot youngin workin there.
She already liked me before I could say,but now,I asked for her digits and she handed them over without any hesitation.
The only problem is that I promised to drink with her,and I haven’t had a drink in 7 years(I’m against the stuff).
But hey,I’ve gotta pay the price if I want some delicious treats.Hopefully I will not make a fool out of myself-just a few beers perhaps.
Anyway,these mones do work something-but I think that the self-effects are more worthy than the others-effects.
What sucks about this is that you’re suppose to build tolerance to self-effects?
You do realize that the company which sells the aforementioned has its own forum right? Just sayin.
Yes but I have been getting good help here regardless of the company.
My next buy will be Andriotics,I still have the gift certificate.
I got the stack from these guys because I didn’t want to spend much money before seeing if pheros work.
I do apologize to Androtics about posting this here,as I understand they are the best in the bussiness.
It seems Ascend has made me horribly depressed.
It happened about 3 hours after application.
I’m washing it off immediately.
And no one has treated me any differently than usually.
Fuck this.
Today’s combination was 1 Bliss 1 Ascend 1.5 Evolve.
It seems all that I get from these Pheromones are the self effects from Bliss,and that’s it.
Once I build tolerance to this,there won’t be anything.
I don’t see the point in this molecule(A-1)when it’s so depressing,and I didn’t see it affect anyone other than me.