which pheros help initiate kiss close/kino escalation?

per seduction phase, this is most problematic for many guy who lack the agressive push to “go in for the kiss” no matter how many ioi’s or obvious flirtations…

so i find IS and Ammo doesnt help initiate the close…

is this is issue of "needing to feel more alpha - ao a314?

or

"needing to feel more sexually agressive - so TUH?

Do a search for kino escalation on this forum and for “dicarlo escalation ladder” on google.

Take a look at Lovedrop’s post on escalation in the venusian arts blog (essentially social conditioning might mean that as you escalate she acts as if you’re being weird, but if she is still there and happy to be talking to you and not pulling away then that is kind of a passive IoI).

You’re a man, so it’s your job to escalate progressively…

Gem and Craze might have some thoughts for you also.

This is not a mone matter. They merely enhance your persona and attraction, i.e., traits that are naturally already there. No mind control or hypnosis implied or involved. You still gotta do the grunt work and understand when to make the move.

I have wispered in 440 girls ears and 99.994 % just want to be kissed.

But do be carefull because i have experienced the lip kiss to have a tendancy to start major chain reactions.

I have noticed that most of them want the kissing and so much more so once the match has been struck be prepared for fireworks, eg “HEAT” :o :slight_smile:

I agree, its different, all this is about game. Pheros may make her more comfortable, but I have a feeling escalation has not much to do with pheros. Perhaps the most it can do is slightly alter your social value if you act consistently… The leg work is to be put in by you… Mind you, if your really good at game pheros can probably be a brutal addition to your weaponry… :wink:

TUTH :wink:

Tish

I must say… I’ve worn ammo and tuth around enough girls who expected so much while with me (escalation) and were HELLA dissapointed when I didn’t give them anything.. so… be READY…

mx222 has worked well for me. also ammo with instant openness.

I was wearing ammo…


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